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[1245A Defender]

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go here Is a Airsoft Gun a Gun?

 

[SpringerXDacp]

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1245A Defender wrote:

go here Is a Airsoft Gun a Gun?

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[1245A Defender]

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i see that linky no worky often,, but i clck it and it works so try again!

 

[jeremiahJohnson]

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Linkie No Workie...

 

[Big Gay Al]

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Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

 

[ghostrider]

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kyleplusitunes wrote:

why is this just now coming out as a debate? how long ago was it now? are you running out of things to argue about?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/guildrecruitment

Because some people will grasp at anything with which to stir up dissent.

 

[Guest]

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Big Gay Al wrote:

Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

Projectile is the term used in the statute to define firearm. That is undoubtedly the reason for your in ability to receive any response to your search.

 

[Big Gay Al]

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CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

Projectile is the term used in the statute to define firearm. That is undoubtedly the reason for your in ability to receive any response to your search.

Possibly, but BB is mentioned in the statutes, pellet is not. Unfortunately, I think this is one of those gray areas that are going to depend on how the police and the prosecutors decide to handle it.

 

[Guest]

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Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

Projectile is the term used in the statute to define firearm. That is undoubtedly the reason for your in ability to receive any response to your search.

Possibly, but BB is mentioned in the statutes, pellet is not. Unfortunately, I think this is one of those gray areas that are going to depend on how the police and the prosecutors decide to handle it.

Correct about the statute containing "BB" within it. The statute, if you read all of it, differentiates BB from projectile and includes a dimensional description that is not gray.

 

[Big Gay Al]

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CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

Projectile is the term used in the statute to define firearm. That is undoubtedly the reason for your in ability to receive any response to your search.

Possibly, but BB is mentioned in the statutes, pellet is not. Unfortunately, I think this is one of those gray areas that are going to depend on how the police and the prosecutors decide to handle it.

Correct about the statute containing "BB" within it. The statute, if you read all of it, differentiates BB from projectile and includes a dimensional description that is not gray.

Ok, but here's the problem, as I see it. There is no definition for "BB" in Michigan law. Which means they will usually use an outside source, such as a dictionary. And Dictionary dot com defines BB as follows.

noun
1.a size of shot, 0.18 in. (0.46 cm) in diameter, fired from an air rifle or BB gun.
2.Also called BB shot. shot of this size.

Based on that definition, the ammo used in airsoft guns are not BBs, as they are 6mm in diameter.

Gray area or not? I dunno, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just trying to point out the situation, as I see it.

 

[Guest]

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Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

Projectile is the term used in the statute to define firearm. That is undoubtedly the reason for your in ability to receive any response to your search.

Possibly, but BB is mentioned in the statutes, pellet is not. Unfortunately, I think this is one of those gray areas that are going to depend on how the police and the prosecutors decide to handle it.

Correct about the statute containing "BB" within it. The statute, if you read all of it, differentiates BB from projectile and includes a dimensional description that is not gray.

Ok, but here's the problem, as I see it. There is no definition for "BB" in Michigan law. Which means they will usually use an outside source, such as a dictionary. And Dictionary dot com defines BB as follows.

noun
1.a size of shot, 0.18 in. (0.46 cm) in diameter, fired from an air rifle or BB gun.
2.Also called BB shot. shot of this size.

Based on that definition, the ammo used in airsoft guns are not BBs, as they are 6mm in diameter.

Gray area or not? I dunno, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just trying to point out the situation, as I see it.

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

 

[Big Gay Al]

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CV67PAT wrote:

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

I know that. But 6mm is also larger than the definition of a BB as listed in the dictionary. This would define airsoft ammo as not a BB.

 

[Guest]

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Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

I know that. But 6mm is also larger than the definition of a BB as listed in the dictionary. This would define airsoft ammo as not a BB.

Correct. It is a projectile. That which propells a projectile is a firearm.

 

[lil_freak_66]

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CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

I know that. But 6mm is also larger than the definition of a BB as listed in the dictionary. This would define airsoft ammo as not a BB.

Correct. It is a projectile. That which propells a projectile is a firearm.

please tell me why that walmart and meijer sells them,no paperwork,20 bucks and the u-scan?

and why doairsoft guns do not have serialnumbers,andon the slide sayeitherages 14 and up or 16 and upif they are firearms?

 

[wardog6d]

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lil_freak_66 wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

I know that. But 6mm is also larger than the definition of a BB as listed in the dictionary. This would define airsoft ammo as not a BB.

Correct. It is a projectile. That which propells a projectile is a firearm.

please tell me why that walmart and meijer sells them,no paperwork,no nothing. 20 bucks and the u-scan.

Are you kidding me right now. What is wrong with you. Get some help already. Arent you going to be a father like soon?

 

[zigziggityzoo]

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CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

I know that.  But 6mm is also larger than the definition of a BB as listed in the dictionary.  This would define airsoft ammo as not a BB. 

Correct. It is a projectile. That which propells a projectile is a firearm.

Correction: that which propels a "dangerous projectile" is a firearm.

 

[wardog6d]

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wardog6d wrote:

lil_freak_66 wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

CV67PAT wrote:

Review the other posts in this thread and you will see that 6mm is larger than the .177 cal description contained in the statute.

I know that. But 6mm is also larger than the definition of a BB as listed in the dictionary. This would define airsoft ammo as not a BB.

Correct. It is a projectile. That which propells a projectile is a firearm.

please tell me why that walmart and meijer sells them,no paperwork,no nothing. 20 bucks and the u-scan.

Are you kidding me right now. What is wrong with you. Get some help already. Arent you going to be a father like soon?

What difference does it make that a company allows you to commit a crime and they themselves commit a crime? You know its wrong? Yet you would violate the law anyway just because you can. Seriously? This is the mentality MOC.INC promotes to minors?

 

[Venator]

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Well if they are a firearm they are covered by preemption.

And as for the handgun style modelsif they too are a firearm they mustbeby definitiona handgun and therefore you need to have a purchase permit or a CPL to buy one.

Since you do not need a purchase permit they must not be considered a handgun. And if they are not considered a handgun but they are a firearm...wait now I'm confused.

Does an air soft produce a dangerous projectile??? I've been shot with them many times at close range and It didn't seem to be dangerous to me. But I am a rather viral man.

 

[mikestilly]

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Venator wrote:

Well if they are a firearm they are covered by preemption. 

And as for the handgun style models if they too are a firearm they must be by definition a handgun and therefore you need to have a purchase permit or a CPL to buy one.

Since you do not need a purchase permit they must not be considered a handgun.  And if they are not considered a handgun but they are a firearm...wait now I'm confused. 

Does an air soft produce a dangerous projectile???  I've been shot with them many times at close range and It didn't seem to be dangerous to me.  But I am a rather viral man.

Aim it at your eyeball and pull the trigger. -Report back to us if it was dangerous.

 

[Venator]

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CV67PAT wrote:

Big Gay Al wrote:

Well, the problem with ammo for airsoft guns, as it is, all the "descriptions" I've seen written call them pellets, not "BBs" Does this make a difference in Michigan law? I dunno, but there's no mention of the word "pellet" in Michigan law.

At least I couldn't find one, when I searched using that term on the MI Legislature page.

According to findlaw.com, federal law says you have to be 18 to buy an airsoft gun, but there are no age restrictions on owning one, again, by federal law.

California does have some laws that cover them, but apparently Michigan does not. At least not specifically.

Projectile is the term used in the statute to define firearm. That is undoubtedly the reason for your in ability to receive any response to your search.

a dangerous projectile, not just a projectile. It does try to qualify what kind of projectile.