dmworken
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Mr. Greg,
Bravo, sir!! Having rules are a good thing and keeps orders among our peers.
Mr. Greg,
Bravo, sir!! Having rules are a good thing and keeps orders among our peers.
A group of Wisconsin gun advocates is planning a picnic in July with food, soft drinks and handguns
Mr. Greg We may want to look into actually measuring from the school ourselves, by hand. We cannot be semi-sure about the school zone, we must be absolutely sure. Also so we have accesable parking NOT within the school zone right?
Ben
(1)Use of firearms and fireworks; hunting with bow and arrow; trapping. No person shall carry, fire or discharge any gun, pistol or firearm, nor any rocket, torpedo or other fireworks of any description, nor shall any person engage in trapping within any park or parkway without a written permit of the department of parks, recreation and culture; nor shall any person hunt with bow and arrow within any park or parkway. No person shall carry, fire or discharge any gun, pistol or firearm, nor any rocket, torpedo or other fireworks of any description upon any premises owed or leased by Milwaukee County which is not part of the county parks and parkways. The word "gun" shall include airgun.
66.0409. Local regulation of firearms.
(1) In this section:
(a) "Firearm" has the meaning given in s.
167.31 (1) (c).
(b) "Political subdivision" means a city,
village, town or county.
(c) "Sport shooting range" means an area designed and operated for the practice of weapons used in hunting, skeet shooting and similar sport shooting.
(2) Except as provided in subs. (3) and (4), no political subdivision may enact an ordinance or adopt a resolution that regulates the sale, purchase, purchase delay, transfer, ownership, use, keeping, possession, bearing, transportation, licensing, permitting, registration or taxation of any firearm or part of a firearm, including ammunition and reloader components, unless the ordinance or resolution is the same as or similar to, and no more stringent than, a state statute.
(3)(a) Nothing in this section prohibits a county from imposing a sales tax or use tax under subchapter V of chapter 77 on any firearm or part of a firearm, including ammunition and reloader components, sold in the county.
(b) Nothing in this section prohibits a city, village or town that is authorized to exercise village powers under s. 60.22 (3) from enacting an ordinance or adopting a resolution that restricts the discharge of a firearm.
(4)(a) Nothing in this section prohibits a political subdivision from continuing to enforce an ordinance or resolution that is in effect on November 18, 1995, and that regulates the sale, purchase, transfer, ownership, use, keeping, possession, bearing, if the ordinance or resolution is the same as or similar to, and no more stringent than, a state statute. transportation, licensing, permitting, registration or taxation of any firearm or part of a firearm, including ammunition and reloader components,
(am) Nothing in this section prohibits a political subdivision from continuing to enforce until November 30, 1998, an ordinance or resolution that is in effect on November 18, 1995, and that requires a waiting period of not more than 7 days for the purchase of a handgun.
(b) If a political subdivision has in effect on November 17, 1995, an ordinance or resolution that regulates the sale, purchase, transfer, ownership, use, keeping, possession, bearing, transportation, licensing, permitting, registration or
taxation of any firearm or part of a firearm, including ammunition and reloader components, and the ordinance or resolution is not the same as or similar to a state statute, the ordinance or resolution shall have no legal effect and the political subdivision may not enforce the ordinance or resolution on or after November 18, 1995.
(c) Nothing in this section prohibits a political subdivision from enacting and enforcing a zoning ordinance that regulates the new construction of a sport shooting range or when the expansion of an existing sport shooting range would impact public health and safety.
(5) A county ordinance that is enacted or a county resolution that is adopted by a county under sub. (2) or a county ordinance or resolution that remains in effect under sub. (4) (a) or (am) applies only in those towns in the county that have not enacted an ordinance or adopted a resolution under sub. (2) or that continue to enforce an ordinance or resolution under sub. (4) (a) or (am), except that this subsection does not apply to a sales or use tax that is imposed under subchapter V of chapter 77.
It's not a case of "should," it's a case of "will." Both Brad and Jesus broke local law with the open carrying of a firearm, and both had their cases thrown out because of the Preemption Statue. If law enforcement chooses to break the law and detain us, expect court time, but as long as we were doing nothing other than having a picnic in the park, I see no reason why our cases would not be thrown out as well.Good job! Yes the 66.0409. Local regulation of firearms should make us immune to the local laws. However depending on which action she and the county takes this could end up a little screwy. I'm actualy glad she brought up that county ordinance. Because now is the time to repeal it LMAO! But..... how long could that take? If we were to attend the picnic we would be breaking local law if it is not repealed. The police would be able to arrest us and take our guns based on the local law makers. BUT if they chose to do that, then they would have a big case on there hands that they are likely to lose.
The county of Milwaukee must be notified of their failure to conform to 66.0409 and IMMEDIATE ACTION must be taken to remove the ordinance and othjer ordinances conflidting with state laws!
WE MUST DEMAND IMMEDIATE REMOVAL NOW! We don't want a grace period for that day, we want it abolished NOW.
Ben
Yes, and as frustrating as that is, it's just something we'll have to deal with. I only hope what JB Van Hollen has said on Monday will change that policy, and save taxpayer money from being wasted by having 15+ hearings on charges that will be thrown out.I have called around sheriffs office, and other various county positions in regards to the local regulation. Only the sheriffs office answered. I talk to an employee of the sheriffs office, I forget his title. He was very curtious. However he did say that the local ordinance WILL be enforced, and that the prosectutors will have to sort it out. You WILL be arrested if you carry in county parks, despite what the state statute says.
Ben :banghead:
BJA wrote:Yes, and as frustrating as that is, it's just something we'll have to deal with. I only hope what JB Van Hollen has said on Monday will change that policy, and save taxpayer money from being wasted by having 15+ hearings on charges that will be thrown out.I have called around sheriffs office, and other various county positions in regards to the local regulation. Only the sheriffs office answered. I talk to an employee of the sheriffs office, I forget his title. He was very curtious. However he did say that the local ordinance WILL be enforced, and that the prosectutors will have to sort it out. You WILL be arrested if you carry in county parks, despite what the state statute says.
Ben :banghead:
Your saying how only one office answered is exactly why a notification will be delivered in person, and won't be a random phone call.
Unfortunately, if they are going to arrest those that are open carrying at the this park, then I won't be attending. I am 39 , never been arrested& aint gonna start now. IDon't have disposable income for lawyers, citations, driving back and forth to Milwaukee for court dates is out of the question, I am a small business owner and certainly don't have the time for this BS. maybe we need to have this somewhere else ??? maybenot a county park ? possible someones private property ? otherwise no one is gonna show up carrying, ok maybe you will....but this will defeat the reason for this picnic....
count me out if they are going to bearresting the lot of us...sorry.
Good.I am still planning on attending, but the holster& pistol may or my notremain in the vehicle. I am bringing a camera regardless.