Shouting 'USA!USA!' is racist..

[09jisaac]

Everyone is racist

shhhhh, liberals think they are above this. Everyone is racist, even if they aren't against a race or for a race. Everyone classifies everybody else about how they are different or how they are the same.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

shhhhh, liberals think they are above this. Everyone is racist, even if they aren't against a race or for a race. Everyone classifies everybody else about how they are different or how they are the same.

If you want to know what a Liberal is thinking, just ask: Beretta92fsLady

I am somewhat Liberal. I have racist ideations, and there are times that I am a flat-out racist. Racism, IMO, is morally bad.

 

[TechnoWeenie]

Just remember.......

Profiling is OK.
Racism is not.

 

[SouthernBoy]

I think they are saying its racist because the losing team's players were primarily Hispanic, so the chant was meant to be derogatory and implying the losing players were not American. So implying hispanic people are not Americans is racist and thus using the chant to do so is racist.

This is most interesting when one considers the fact that hispanics, or latinos if you'd rather, are not a race under that description.

 

[ed2276]

This is most interesting when one considers the fact that hispanics, or latinos if you'd rather, are not a race under that description.

According to the definitions of "race", "ethnic", and "ethnicity" in Webster's, they do fall under race. However, if one wants to evade a racism accusation for racist conduct one only need engage in subjective semantics. Kind of like Southerners justifying human slavery by claiming their slaves weren't human, merely property.

 

[Stanley]

According to the definitions of "race", "ethnic", and "ethnicity" in Webster's, they do fall under race. However, if one wants to evade a racism accusation for racist conduct one only need engage in subjective semantics. Kind of like Southerners justifying human slavery by claiming their slaves weren't human, merely property.

Hispanic defines a group of people consisting of different MIXTURES of white, black, or various asian characteristics. There are as many different types of Hispanics as there are people.

So which group exactly was experiencing the racism?

Example: I'm mixed. So is Tiger Woods. I'm white and black, Tiger Woods is white and japanese. Can I CLAIM we are now a single race because we look the same or people are dumb enough to confuse us? By your view of race I am Hispanic as well. I LOOK Hispanic enough that many people get confused. I speak Spanish fluently and have lived in Mexico.

I guess I'm now Hispanic. LOL

 

[ed2276]

So which group exactly was experiencing the racism?

The group at whom the shouts, "USA! USA!" were being directed.

 

[GhostOfJefferson]

The group at whom the shouts, "USA! USA!" were being directed.

The American citizens you mean? A sensible response, if one's thin skin is just so offended, is to join them in the chant while pointing and laughing at them.

People get so danged worked up over things these days. We all, every one of us, have it so damned good we have no clue how bad it can really be in the world. We're literally creating a tyranny out of boredom. You want to be "offended" or have something to really protest about then spend some time in a Central American, Greek or Turkish jail for a few years. I promise, you'll french kiss the tarmac if you ever make it back to these united States alive after that.

There are bad things that happen here, yes, plenty of them. That's no reason to invent more out of whole cloth in order to feel "outraged" or "indignant". People really need a good dose of perspective.

The "offended" walked away without a single hair on any of their heads harmed. My advice, grow up and learn to laugh at haters, that alone ticks them off more than any other thing you can do. If you start with the effeminate "outrage" you'll only egg them on. This is basic advice any child should be taught, but apparently most are not these days.

 

[Jack House]

Hispanic defines a group of people consisting of different MIXTURES of white, black, or various asian characteristics. There are as many different types of Hispanics as there are people.

So which group exactly was experiencing the racism?

Example: I'm mixed. So is Tiger Woods. I'm white and black, Tiger Woods is white and japanese. Can I CLAIM we are now a single race because we look the same or people are dumb enough to confuse us? By your view of race I am Hispanic as well. I LOOK Hispanic enough that many people get confused. I speak Spanish fluently and have lived in Mexico.

I guess I'm now Hispanic. LOL

This big elaborate argument is built on such a shaky, crumbling foundation, that it falls apart so easily.

Once again, you are ignoring the issue. You are attempting, poorly, to use technicalities to sweep it under the rug.

In the end, it all comes back to the fact they said USA. You don't want to believe or refuse to accept that such a chant can be used for expressing bigotry.

People get so danged worked up over things these days. We all, every one of us, have it so damned good we have no clue how bad it can really be in the world. We're literally creating a tyranny out of boredom. You want to be "offended" or have something to really protest about then spend some time in a Central American, Greek or Turkish jail for a few years. I promise, you'll french kiss the tarmac if you ever make it back to these united States alive after that.

"Hitler"


I can not help but notice that the arguments of those saying it absolutely could not have been racism has changed from "it's not racism, it's patriotism" to "it can't be racism, Hispanic isn't a race" to "who cares, it's not a big deal" to finally "you have no right to complain. KIDS IN UGANDA"

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[Stanley]

This big elaborate argument is built on such a shaky, crumbling foundation, that it falls apart so easily.

Once again, you are ignoring the issue. You are attempting, poorly, to use technicalities to sweep it under the rug.

In the end, it all comes back to the fact they said USA. You don't want to believe or refuse to accept that such a chant can be used for expressing bigotry.

No offense but you are a fool. I've already stipulated that it could be. I just doubt it.

Having been the victim of a violent hate crime and intimidation I'm gonna tell you to suck it up and quit being a pansy. It's like complaining about a paper cut in the ER. No one cares because while paper cuts do indeed hurt like hell there are real injuries to worry about...

But I, the black guy, don't get it. I'm trying to sweep it under the rug. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

 

[ed2276]

No offense but you are a fool. I've already stipulated that it could be. I just doubt it.

Having been the victim of a violent hate crime and intimidation I'm gonna tell you to suck it up and quit being a pansy. It's like complaining about a paper cut in the ER. No one cares because while paper cuts do indeed hurt like hell there are real injuries to worry about...

But I, the black guy, don't get it. I'm trying to sweep it under the rug. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Racism need not be in the form of hate crime or intimidation to be unacceptable.

At what point do you stop brushing something off as a "paper cut", and speak out, or act out in opposition against the offending act? At the point of being denied service in a restaurant? At the point of not being allowed to drink from the segregated water fountain? At the point of having to sit at the back of the bus? At the point of not being allowed to attend "white schools"?

On the scale of the infliction of racism weren't these just "paper cuts". Perhaps Rosa Parks ought to have just had thicker skin, eh?

 

[davidmcbeth]

I would chanted back "USSR!"

 

[sudden valley gunner]

So if I was to shout Hawaii, Hawaii, Hawaii what would that mean? It's a state in U.S.A but white folks are a minority there?

 

[davidmcbeth]

Should have shouted "USSR!"?

 

[PrayingForWar]

shhhhh, liberals think they are above this. Everyone is racist, even if they aren't against a race or for a race. Everyone classifies everybody else about how they are different or how they are the same.

What if you think everyone is equally worthless?

I've heard for over a decade now since I've lived in TX that we gringos are invaders, imperialists and thieves who "stole this land" from "the native Aztec people". That this region is actually a part of "Aztlan", and is being reconquered by it's rightful owners.

Never mind that it was the Spanyards who wiped out the aztec culture and language, or that the aztecs didn't reside in what is now Austin.

I'm supposed to be "tolerant" of people who come from a filthy, corrupt, illiterate, diseased and impoverished failed state who insist they should be allowed to govern territory their ancestors lost in a war 5 decades before my ancestors escaped euroweenie land when it's more than abundantly clear they're completely incapable of governing themselves?

I digress...

After having heard this insipid bull$#!t, and tolerated having to point to items on resturant menus (and still getting the wrong food), driving behind people who drive worse than gooks, (I can say it since I married one) or trying too convince a landscaper who doesn't speak english not to touch live exposed circut panels, I'm supposed to be upset at a bunch of gringo kids who are also probably sick to death of the same insipid $#!t?

Excuse the hell out of me but...

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!!

BTW, I also married a beanerita the first time around, so suggesting I'm "anti-mexican" might make you feel better, but you're still wrong. I'm just the most insensitive SOB around regarding racial issues and have unlimited contempt for people playing "race poker" with cards they're not qualified to hold.

 

[snatale42]

Video

School apologizes for 'racial incident' after high school basketball game..

W T F

Didn't you get the memo? If your proud of being White or an American your a racist!

 

[Stanley]

Racism need not be in the form of hate crime or intimidation to be unacceptable.

At what point do you stop brushing something off as a "paper cut", and speak out, or act out in opposition against the offending act? At the point of being denied service in a restaurant? At the point of not being allowed to drink from the segregated water fountain? At the point of having to sit at the back of the bus? At the point of not being allowed to attend "white schools"?

On the scale of the infliction of racism weren't these just "paper cuts". Perhaps Rosa Parks ought to have just had thicker skin, eh?

If you are comparing this to what black people experienced in America then you've gone off the deep end.

Funny thing about Rosa Parks is WHY she refused to move. It wasn't standing up to the man but that she was tired and had a bad day.

People need to choose their battles.

The entire civil rights movement was about equal protection of the law. Not the abolishment of racism.

I'm no constitutional scholar but I'm pretty sure all of the rights and amendments are equal.

All men are created equal and people can say what they want as long as it isn't actionable. Hate speech on its own, and I'm not saying this was hate speech, is not actionable.

So it seems that if you can limit my right to speech I can limit your right to bear arms and go to church. So... Do you want to try and limit me? Because I'll go to war for it. I won't sit in the front of your bus and refuse to move. I'll blow the bus up (metaphorically Mr. NSA man reading this! )

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[ed2276]

Didn't you get the memo? If your proud of being White or an American your a racist!

If in expressing your White, American pride you slander a brown American based on his/her race/ethnicity then, yes, you are a racist.

 

[GhostOfJefferson]

This big elaborate argument is built on such a shaky, crumbling foundation, that it falls apart so easily.

Once again, you are ignoring the issue. You are attempting, poorly, to use technicalities to sweep it under the rug.

In the end, it all comes back to the fact they said USA. You don't want to believe or refuse to accept that such a chant can be used for expressing bigotry.


"Hitler"


I can not help but notice that the arguments of those saying it absolutely could not have been racism has changed from "it's not racism, it's patriotism" to "it can't be racism, Hispanic isn't a race" to "who cares, it's not a big deal" to finally "you have no right to complain. KIDS IN UGANDA"

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If you'd be so kind as to demonstrate to me where I claimed nobody had a right, a right, to complain please? Noting that their complaints are idiotic compared to real pain going on in the world, is an observation and opinion. There is nobody that I know of stating that people don't have the right to express any fool opinion they wish to, but in doing so, they are apt to open themselves up to contrary positions. Encountering contrary positions does not equate to refusing a right.



Maybe, I guess, I've grown weary of the constant chant of "racism" from all corners.

 

[Gil223]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again... "Seek and ye shall find"! If you are actively looking for any social attitude you will eventually find it. Racism seems to be at the top of some folks' "scavenger list", and being both hypervigilant and hypersensitive will do nothing to eliminate feelings of racial superiority/inferiority. What the hypers will do, is cause people who are inclined toward racism to simply harbor those feelings, and only openly share them with those they know to be of like mind. That closet racism will last only until they work themselves (and probably several their like-minded friends) into a frenzy as the emotional pressure builds and they begin acting out. That's when the SWHTF. Sound familiar? That's how the KKK and the ANP began.

Now to the original post in particular. One of the responding posts to the OPs news link claimed that he had witnessed the event, and that Mexican kids from the mostly Hispanic school had begun the racially charged chanting, and that the USA chant was begun by Mexican kids from the mostly white school. He also claimed to have addressed that issue to school officials, and was told by those officials that, "We just want to get it behind us." I wasn't there so I have no idea what the real story is... and probably nobody else in here was there either. Who knows for certain how it was intended? Only the kids who chanted "USA". Personally, I think it's little more than left-wing, hypersensitive, race-baiting BS. But that's just my opinion. Pax...