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Olmos, TX police injure and arrest open carrier - President of Open Carry Texas
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Fallschirjmäger
Active member
I've had many conversations about jurisprudence and what's 'right and wrong' with people; jury nullification seems to be something that most aren't even aware of (except as one of 'those weirdo sovereign citizen' things) and I've never heard of anyone ever having jury nullification mentioned in jury instructions.
Fallschirjmäger
Active member
Because his misdemeanor wasn't a disqualifier under VA Code 18.2-308.09.
After his completely bogus arrest and [Strike]persecution[/Strike] prosecution, C.J was eventually convicted of the equally bogus "interfering with public duties" on Nov. 20, 2013, which in the state of Texas, is a Class B misdemeanor.
Any misdemeanor conviction greater than a Class C, which is the equivalent of a traffic citation, requires a five-year wait before one is eligible to acquire (or reacquire as the case may be) the government-approved permission slip known as the Texas License to Carry. So far as I am aware, C.J. has never carried a firearm in violation of any state or federal statute.
Do the math and carry on.
Any misdemeanor conviction greater than a Class C, which is the equivalent of a traffic citation, requires a five-year wait before one is eligible to acquire (or reacquire as the case may be) the government-approved permission slip known as the Texas License to Carry. So far as I am aware, C.J. has never carried a firearm in violation of any state or federal statute.
Do the math and carry on.
[FONT="]Your hero TXOCT16...
Jan 2018 quote:
[/FONT][FONT="]On June 28, Grisham shared an article about the [/FONT]indictment of an FBI agent[FONT="] in connection with the shooting death of anti-government activist Robert “LaVoy” Finicum. Grisham wrote in a comment below the post, "They should all be lined up and executed.”
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[/FONT][FONT="]In the video, a man who is arguing with police is tackled and appears to be punched by an officer. Grisham wrote that if he witnessed a similar incident, he would "defend victims” and there would be “bloody cops.”[/FONT][FONT="]
That same month, Grisham used strong language to come out against a bill that aimed to make violence against police officers and judges a hate crime. In the June 16 post, he wrote, “Your life isn’t as important as a cop’s life. Demigods must be bowed to, worshipped and treated as royalty. They have thin skins and think they are better than you. Their devotion is to protecting each other.”
[/FONT][FONT="]Grisham said that some of his posts lack context and acknowledged that they can make him seem “anti-police.” But he said he would not apologize for offending people with his “politically incorrect language.” Unquote.
[/FONT]https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/07/cj-grisham-defends-anti-police-social-media-posts-targeting-bad-cops-o
Jan 2018 quote:
[/FONT][FONT="]On June 28, Grisham shared an article about the [/FONT]indictment of an FBI agent[FONT="] in connection with the shooting death of anti-government activist Robert “LaVoy” Finicum. Grisham wrote in a comment below the post, "They should all be lined up and executed.”
[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]In the video, a man who is arguing with police is tackled and appears to be punched by an officer. Grisham wrote that if he witnessed a similar incident, he would "defend victims” and there would be “bloody cops.”[/FONT][FONT="]
That same month, Grisham used strong language to come out against a bill that aimed to make violence against police officers and judges a hate crime. In the June 16 post, he wrote, “Your life isn’t as important as a cop’s life. Demigods must be bowed to, worshipped and treated as royalty. They have thin skins and think they are better than you. Their devotion is to protecting each other.”
[/FONT][FONT="]Grisham said that some of his posts lack context and acknowledged that they can make him seem “anti-police.” But he said he would not apologize for offending people with his “politically incorrect language.” Unquote.
[/FONT]https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/07/cj-grisham-defends-anti-police-social-media-posts-targeting-bad-cops-o
No eventually whatsoever at his timely conducted trial, with counsel of his choice representing him, a jury of his peers found him guilty of Texas statute ~ tis the way in this country!
Newspeek articles state class A.
Come on now C.J. you did the crime, you took the ride, your 15yo son recorded the event, you publicized ithe event nationally, you got good counsel, you got found guilty by your peers, so your wife pleads for LENIENCY over a misdemeanor charge? REALLY!
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Before the jury came to their conclusion, they first had to listen to more testimony from character witnesses for both the state and defense, including Grisham's wife.
Emily Grisham gave the most emotional testimony when she pleaded with the jury to be lenient in what sentence they chose for her husband, while the prosecution called an investigator who tracked Grisham's online activity following the incident and said that he was using the case only to gain publicity for his gun rights activism.
The prosecution only called two witnesses to testify for the punishment phase of the trial with that investigator telling the jury that Grisham had solicited thousands of dollars online to help support his case, and he also said that the only reason Grisham posted the cell phone video of the incident was to promote his case and help fight his charge.
Along with Ms. Grisham, the defense called several of Grisham's close friends to testify on his behalf in hopes of persuading the jury to not give him the maximum $2,000 fine and up to 180 days in jail.
http://www.kxxv.com/story/24026766/jury-gives-cj-grisham-2000-fine-with-no-jail-time
How did Harry state it, ‘Legend in his own mind!’ Oh with a pleading wife....
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Better a "pleading" wife than a vindictive one.
The prosecutor should suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortunes.
Solus, thanks for the background info. It does help to know more.
Smart move! Violence is already crime. What legitimate or logical purpose can a hate designation serve for any group?
Not so smart. Someone aiming for leadership should carefully consider their words.
Imagine that, emotional appeals in court. :shocker: Happens every day, yes?
Smart move! Violence is already crime. What legitimate or logical purpose can a hate designation serve for any group?
Not so smart. Someone aiming for leadership should carefully consider their words.
Imagine that, emotional appeals in court. :shocker: Happens every day, yes?
OC for ME
Regular Member
A five year old conviction for contempt of cop is hardly worthy of consideration for a obvious case of cops using unlawful violence against a law abiding citizen. It appears that the cops are going back to the contempt of cop well.
Tucker6900
Regular Member
Looks like its happening all over again...
Jack Miller Violently Arrested For...?
It appears Olmos Park is doubling down on stupidity...
Jack Miller Violently Arrested For...?
It appears Olmos Park is doubling down on stupidity...
color of law
Accomplished Advocate
Please explain the post, the purpose.
Tucker6900
Regular Member
Seems like they are continuing their assault against 2nd Amendment Rights by, yet again, arresting a citizen lawfully open carrying. In the video, the chief can be heard threatening Mr. Miller with violence. And then actually going through with it.
mobeewan
Regular Member
Jack Miller was arrested in February of 2018 for illegally carrying a loaded gun in the city of Olmos Park. Olmos Park continued to drag his charges out until recently. His charges were finally dismissed. He also had a firearms violation in Leon Valley from 2018. That charge had finally been dismissed.
Jack is currently involved in a class action lawsuit with several other people who were arrested for protesting what happened to Jack on his firearms arrest and the arrests of several other people who were shooting video and arrested at the Leon Valley municipal building which includes a court room and the police department. The people protesting were also shooting video and they were arrested. That lawsuit was filed claiming a pattern of civil rights violations by Leon Valley police chief and several police officers. That lawsuit had been put on hold pending the outcome of criminal charges filed against the participants of the lawsuit.
Everyone's charges including Jack's have been dismissed except for two people. It is expected that those charges will also be dismissed. Leon Valley has also been dragging out everybody else's charges because they know what's coming.
Jack has been less active in his civil rights activism until his charges were cleared trying not to rack up more false charges.
Jack came across Chief Valenciano from Olmos Park recently. The chief threatened him and he has it on video. Jack went back out to Olmos Park carrying either a BB gun or an airsoft gun and was attacked and arrested by the chief and one of his thugs.
Everything they charged him with this time is also bull crap. Nothing in the videos supports any of it. There were four people filming his arrest from different angles.
He's has the following false charges filed against him:
Obstructing a passageway / roadway. This is a misdemeanor. He was standing on a sidewalk with no one around him. In order to be blocking a sidewalk you have to actually be keeping people from moving along the sidewalk, interfering with their passage and not getting out of their way. $1,000 Bond. They attempted to get a $10,000 Bond.
Disorderly conduct / discharge / display of a firearm. This is a misdemeanor. They say he was carrying a firearm in a manner to cause alarm. This is the same thing that they charged him with before that was thrown out. He was carrying either a BB rifle or an airsoft rifle. It was hanging around his body using a harness type sling and it was hanging behind his back just behind his elbow. This is how he was carrying the last time they arrested him in Olmos Park and his charges have eventually been dismissed.
$1,000 Bond. They attempted to get a $10,000 Bond
Resisting arrest / search / transportation. This is a misdemeanor. At no point did he ever resist. He was placing his hands behind him and turning his back towards them when they grabbed him and started twisting and yanking on his arm. Everything after that was his wincing, thrashing in pain and screeming as he was being assaulted. They knew he had a bad shoulder and took out their anger against him by twisting on it.$1,000 Bond. The attempted to get a $10,000 Bond.
Assaulting a peace officer / judge. This is a felony. As he was reacting to pain and his head bumped into either the chief or the cop. You can immediately here on the video that they yelled something about assaulting a police officer as they were giving him a rough walk across the street and into the jail.$20,000 Bond. They attempted to get a $100,000 bond
It's all on video. Shot from about three or four different directions. There were about four people shooting video of the entire incident up until they got him inside the doors of the police station.
Jack's 2018 arrest was why Grisham went to Olmos Park where he was assaulted and arrested along with another member of open carry Texas. When Jack was arrested in 2018 there was a woman with him who was doing backup video for him. The officer was so concerned about Jack having a firearm that he turned away from Jack and ran at her yelling for her to put the camera down and assaulted her hitting her so hard that it bruised her breast and almost knocked her to the ground. He then turned back at Jack and arrested him at gunpoint She currently has a federal lawsuit against the officer which is still moving its way through the federal court.
Jack is currently involved in a class action lawsuit with several other people who were arrested for protesting what happened to Jack on his firearms arrest and the arrests of several other people who were shooting video and arrested at the Leon Valley municipal building which includes a court room and the police department. The people protesting were also shooting video and they were arrested. That lawsuit was filed claiming a pattern of civil rights violations by Leon Valley police chief and several police officers. That lawsuit had been put on hold pending the outcome of criminal charges filed against the participants of the lawsuit.
Everyone's charges including Jack's have been dismissed except for two people. It is expected that those charges will also be dismissed. Leon Valley has also been dragging out everybody else's charges because they know what's coming.
Jack has been less active in his civil rights activism until his charges were cleared trying not to rack up more false charges.
Jack came across Chief Valenciano from Olmos Park recently. The chief threatened him and he has it on video. Jack went back out to Olmos Park carrying either a BB gun or an airsoft gun and was attacked and arrested by the chief and one of his thugs.
Everything they charged him with this time is also bull crap. Nothing in the videos supports any of it. There were four people filming his arrest from different angles.
He's has the following false charges filed against him:
Obstructing a passageway / roadway. This is a misdemeanor. He was standing on a sidewalk with no one around him. In order to be blocking a sidewalk you have to actually be keeping people from moving along the sidewalk, interfering with their passage and not getting out of their way. $1,000 Bond. They attempted to get a $10,000 Bond.
Disorderly conduct / discharge / display of a firearm. This is a misdemeanor. They say he was carrying a firearm in a manner to cause alarm. This is the same thing that they charged him with before that was thrown out. He was carrying either a BB rifle or an airsoft rifle. It was hanging around his body using a harness type sling and it was hanging behind his back just behind his elbow. This is how he was carrying the last time they arrested him in Olmos Park and his charges have eventually been dismissed.
$1,000 Bond. They attempted to get a $10,000 Bond
Resisting arrest / search / transportation. This is a misdemeanor. At no point did he ever resist. He was placing his hands behind him and turning his back towards them when they grabbed him and started twisting and yanking on his arm. Everything after that was his wincing, thrashing in pain and screeming as he was being assaulted. They knew he had a bad shoulder and took out their anger against him by twisting on it.$1,000 Bond. The attempted to get a $10,000 Bond.
Assaulting a peace officer / judge. This is a felony. As he was reacting to pain and his head bumped into either the chief or the cop. You can immediately here on the video that they yelled something about assaulting a police officer as they were giving him a rough walk across the street and into the jail.$20,000 Bond. They attempted to get a $100,000 bond
It's all on video. Shot from about three or four different directions. There were about four people shooting video of the entire incident up until they got him inside the doors of the police station.
Jack's 2018 arrest was why Grisham went to Olmos Park where he was assaulted and arrested along with another member of open carry Texas. When Jack was arrested in 2018 there was a woman with him who was doing backup video for him. The officer was so concerned about Jack having a firearm that he turned away from Jack and ran at her yelling for her to put the camera down and assaulted her hitting her so hard that it bruised her breast and almost knocked her to the ground. He then turned back at Jack and arrested him at gunpoint She currently has a federal lawsuit against the officer which is still moving its way through the federal court.
color of law
Accomplished Advocate
Sure would not had gotten that explanation out of the youtube posting.
mobeewan
Regular Member
My comments are based on a compilation of YouTube videos posted from jacks channel and other activist YouTube channels. Those channels show video of the Olmos Park and Leon Valley police violations of Jack's Rights and other people's rights.
I forgot to mention that he was required to wear an ankle bracelet and was under house arrest not even allowed to go to work. It was a video posted Tuesday morning recorded by another activist where he went in for his pre-trial hearing on his new Olmos Park charges. When he came out he said that he did not have to wear the ankle bracelet anymore and what's free to go where he wanted to go. I believe he is still facing all four of the new charges. He still has a ways to go on these new charges along with continuing his civil suit against Leon Valley.
If anyone wants to help him he has a PayPal account https://www.paypal.com/donate/?toke...2rYOkjgjerVGdngRTyiW&country.x=US&locale.x=US
And a gofundme account
TXSHEEPDOG72 POLICE EDUCATOR, organized by Jack Miller
TXSHEEPDOG72 POLICE EDUCATOR… Jack Miller needs your support for TXSHEEPDOG72 POLICE EDUCATOR
www.gofundme.com