Whatcom County OC

[jt59]

There are those among the handicapped, who are entitled to those spots and are often in wheel chairs, that have inflicted this kind of street justice on the inconsiderate that park in those spots. The more generous ones merely remove the valve cap and core while the ones that are really pissed put an ice pick or knife through the sidewall.

As for the "Handicap Permits", they're abused right and left. I had a part time retirement job as a delivery driver. Three of my "fellow drivers" had handicap permits on their personal vehicles. A requirement of the job was to be able to walk distances when delivering product to customers. They did this all day long without problem. All laughed at how their permits got them free parking on the street anytime they went out for dinner in Seattle. BTW, they weren't just "mirror hangar" permits but permanent plates.

criteria:

Type of disability:

Cannot walk 200 feet without stopping to rest

Severely limited in ability to walk due to arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition

Cannot walk without the use of an assistive device

Uses portable oxygen

Ability to walk is restricted by lung disease to such an extent that forced expiratory respiratory volume, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter per second, or the arterial oxygen tension is less than 60 mm/hg on room air at rest

Class III impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions)

Class IV impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions) Has a disability resulting from acute sensitivity to automobile emissions, which limits or impairs the ability to walk and the severity of this disability is comparable to the other conditions listed above Restricted by a form of porphyria to the extent that the applicant would significantly benefit from a decrease in exposure to light

Legally blind with limited mobility ..............(although, I sure don't get this one)....maybe it's why the brail readers are required at the bank drive up windows.

 

[Trigger Dr]

A big fat ticket would have been justice. This is just plain lowlife vandalism. Occasionaly someone with a permit forgets to hang it on the mirror.

I have disabled plates on y truck, but the car has a placard. I frequently forget to hang it on the mirror. Thank God my wife remembers.

 

[MSG Laigaie]

I had business at Haggens today. That SUV in the handicapped slot had the obligatory ticket affixed to the windscreen.

 

[Metalhead47]

... the front tire is off the rim. That doesn't usually happen if the vehicle doesn't move after the tire goes flat. Rather than vigilante slashing, looks more like this guy's tires were buggered for some other reason, and he made the unwise choice to drive it as far as that spot and no further, resulting in the deserved ticket. Shoulda just parked at the far end of the lot if he couldn't afford a tow.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Am I the only one bothered that the government can force a private business to put in a crap load of handicap spots on their private property?

Many times in a crowded lot these spots remain empty, and I often see people get out of and running into the store.

 

[Metalhead47]

Am I the only one bothered that the government can force a private business to put in a crap load of handicap spots on their private property?

Many times in a crowded lot these spots remain empty, and I often see people get out of and running into the store.

Given the current state of reality, there are far more pressing issues to be spending your "bothered credits" on. ;p

Besides, how do you know if the property owner put disabled spots in not because the govt says so but because he/they wanted to make it easier for the disabled to shop there?


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[amlevin]

criteria:

Type of disability:

Cannot walk 200 feet without stopping to rest

Severely limited in ability to walk due to arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition

Cannot walk without the use of an assistive device

Uses portable oxygen

Ability to walk is restricted by lung disease to such an extent that forced expiratory respiratory volume, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter per second, or the arterial oxygen tension is less than 60 mm/hg on room air at rest

Class III impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions)

Class IV impairment by cardiovascular disease (see instructions) Has a disability resulting from acute sensitivity to automobile emissions, which limits or impairs the ability to walk and the severity of this disability is comparable to the other conditions listed above Restricted by a form of porphyria to the extent that the applicant would significantly benefit from a decrease in exposure to light

Legally blind with limited mobility ..............(although, I sure don't get this one)....maybe it's why the brail readers are required at the bank drive up windows.

Any or all of these conditions would have made it impossible for the individuals I mentioned to perform the requirements of their jobs.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Given the current state of reality, there are far more pressing issues to be spending your "bothered credits" on. ;p

Besides, how do you know if the property owner put disabled spots in not because the govt says so but because he/they wanted to make it easier for the disabled to shop there?


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Ah yet I didn't bring the subject up? Just interjected a thought.

You are right I don't know that and if I owned a private store with parking I would probably voluntarily put up a handi stall or two, but it is law that you have to have a certain amount of spots, you have to have certain bathrooms, you have to this and that....I seen good things go away because of the ADA. You could even blame New York's public urination problem on ADA.

To me its a symptom of a much larger problem on how the government can tell you what to do with your private property and how they use "compassion" to force people into accepting it or you look bad. It's tyranny it is a taking of something and giving it to someone else by force.

 

[BigDave]

Ahh there is that anti government, anti law enforcement, going to do what ever I want regardless attitude I missed! :dude:

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Ahh there is that anti government, anti law enforcement, going to do what ever I want regardless attitude I missed! :dude:

Well I am glad I was missed. But there is nothing wrong with doing what ever people want if it isn't harming anyone else that is what a free society is about, that is what liberty is about. When doing what you want causes harm or infringes on someone else's liberty then and only then should said persons actions be restricted.

If it wasn't for the tyrannical increase of Federal government and law enforcement powers along with threats to the supreme court by FDR, this very thing wouldn't be an issue except maybe on a a state level. But it shouldn't even be an issue there by our own state constitution.

 

[BigDave]

But there is nothing wrong with doing what ever people want if it isn't harming anyone else that is what a free society is about, that is what liberty is about. When doing what you want causes harm or infringes on someone else's liberty then and only then should said persons actions be restricted.

And when people are harming others, they do not feel they are, thus we have laws have been enacted to prevent these intrusions or trespasses. Yet those who are doing the harm still do not see the justice as they are now sought after if they steal or cheat others for their own personal gain.

 

[amlevin]

And when people are harming others do not feel they are harming others but do and thus laws that have been enacted and yet those who do the harm do not see the justice because they no longer are able to steal or cheat others for their own personal gain.

Hey Dave! Are they charging you for comma's now?

 

[BigDave]

And when people are harming others, they do not feel they are, thus we have laws have been enacted to prevent these intrusions or trespasses. Yet those who are doing the harm still do not see the justice as they are now sought after if they steal or cheat others for their own personal gain.

Hey Dave! Are they charging you for comma's now?

Yeah sometimes I do not proof read and should LOL ,,,,,,,.......!!!!!!!

 

[sudden valley gunner]

And when people are harming others, they do not feel they are, thus we have laws have been enacted to prevent these intrusions or trespasses. Yet those who are doing the harm still do not see the justice as they are now sought after if they steal or cheat others for their own personal gain.

Said like a perfect statist. What you are saying is nothing but rationalizations for government oversight and control. People know when they are harming others, what you are saying is pure demagoguery lacking any substantial logic.

The mere fact I walk out my front door in the morning or don't causes a butterfly affect that may or may not affect or harm someone else, are you proposing to regulate that action?

You also skip the fact that most laws are enacted by special interest and by a minority of the people. And even if they were a free or liberated society is judged as Von Mises points out by the way its minorities are treated.

Have you read through all new 40,000 laws going into effect this year to make sure you are in compliance?

If they outlaw guns tomorrow are you going to give up yours? After all possessing it may be causing harm to others all though you think you are not.

 

[amlevin]

Have you read through all new 40,000 laws going into effect this year to make sure you are in compliance?

40,000 sure sounds like a big number but when broken down how many are merely duplicates from State to State? Congress sure hasn't accomplished much lately and have passed a near record low number of laws in the first half of their session.

 

[BigDave]

Said like a perfect statist. What you are saying is nothing but rationalizations for government oversight and control. People know when they are harming others, what you are saying is pure demagoguery lacking any substantial logic.

The mere fact I walk out my front door in the morning or don't causes a butterfly affect that may or may not affect or harm someone else, are you proposing to regulate that action?

You also skip the fact that most laws are enacted by special interest and by a minority of the people. And even if they were a free or liberated society is judged as Von Mises points out by the way its minorities are treated.

Have you read through all new 40,000 laws going into effect this year to make sure you are in compliance?

If they outlaw guns tomorrow are you going to give up yours? After all possessing it may be causing harm to others all though you think you are not.

Have a cite for any of this? Just speculation and made up numbers from what I can see, but what else would I expect from extremism.

 

[MSG Laigaie]

Well my Sweet Baboo and I went out and about last night. Went to Jalapenos down by the waterfront. Had a meal with Sudden Vally Gunner and his sweety. Pretty crowded place as a dozen or so people all showed up at 630pm. No worries about weapons, good service, great food. A few looks in the parking lot.
The usual stuff, and many trips to the Park. I have to stop feeding those dogs.

 

[Metalhead47]

40,000 sure sounds like a big number but when broken down how many are merely duplicates from State to State? Congress sure hasn't accomplished much lately and have passed a near record low number of laws in the first half of their session.

Given that the current House's primary goal is merely to stop the advancing agenda of the other half, and of the executive (since they know they can't really advance their own), I'd say that's a good thing.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Well I am glad I was missed. But there is nothing wrong with doing what ever people want if it isn't harming anyone else that is what a free society is about, that is what liberty is about. When doing what you want causes harm or infringes on someone else's liberty then and only then should said persons actions be restricted.

If it wasn't for the tyrannical increase of Federal government and law enforcement powers along with threats to the supreme court by FDR, this very thing wouldn't be an issue except maybe on a a state level. But it shouldn't even be an issue there by our own state constitution.

And when people are harming others, they do not feel they are, thus we have laws have been enacted to prevent these intrusions or trespasses. Yet those who are doing the harm still do not see the justice as they are now sought after if they steal or cheat others for their own personal gain.

Said like a perfect statist. What you are saying is nothing but rationalizations for government oversight and control. People know when they are harming others, what you are saying is pure demagoguery lacking any substantial logic.

The mere fact I walk out my front door in the morning or don't causes a butterfly affect that may or may not affect or harm someone else, are you proposing to regulate that action?

You also skip the fact that most laws are enacted by special interest and by a minority of the people. And even if they were a free or liberated society is judged as Von Mises points out by the way its minorities are treated.

Have you read through all new 40,000 laws going into effect this year to make sure you are in compliance?

If they outlaw guns tomorrow are you going to give up yours? After all possessing it may be causing harm to others all though you think you are not.

Have a cite for any of this? Just speculation and made up numbers from what I can see, but what else would I expect from extremism.

http://www.khq.com/story/16422241/40000-new-laws-set-to-go-into-effect-in-2012

That's all you got? is to answer my points with more demagoguery?

If they make guns illegal tomorrow, will you turn yours in?

 

[BigDave]

How many of these 40,000 are in Washington State, seems to be more fear mongering then anything tangible, but then extremist love that approach in an attempt to distort issues.