The cops will be determined to have acted as reasonably to ensure public safety and themselves. It is very likely that no citizen subjected to the efforts of LE will pursue a redress of wrongs. The Aurora CO Constitutional Suspension Event and the Watertown MA Constitutional Suspension Event are to be referred to.Looks like assault by LEO.
Could result in nerve damage.
I hope it results in a massive lawsuit.
This is the key element.The cops will be determined to have acted as reasonably to ensure public safety and themselves. It is very likely that no citizen subjected to the efforts of LE will pursue a redress of wrongs.
The NY Post article suggests an atheist/agnostic instead.Looks likely to be a Muslim shooter. Asking religion then selectively shooting is a classic jihad tactic, very common in Africa and the Middle East.
The photos are there for all to see. LE will get a pass because the situation deserved the violation of a citizen's rights. If we consider ourselves reasonable men, and what we know of LE actions from prior incidents, the severity of the situation is to be of no consequence to LE.This is the key element. ...
Again, a black man, and the courts found the cops acted appropriately due to the circumstances.In the Aurora Constitutional Suspension Event a black man was removed from his vehicle when the cops were explicitly searching for a white man. The ~30 citizens were detained for over two hours. A judge ruled that the APD acted properly.
Republican/atheist is a false flag (if not a complete invention of the leftist media) I think. Myspace links to to Mahmoud Ali Ehsani, who has copious pictures of mujahideen in all their glory.The NY Post article suggests an atheist/agnostic instead.
Only partly because of that.The photos are there for all to see. LE will get a pass because the situation deserved the violation of a citizen's rights.
Largely because of this.It is very likely that no citizen subjected to the efforts of LE will pursue a redress of wrongs.
Oh we have 4th Amendment rights. The question is, what exactly are those rights?Either we have a 4A or we do not.
Would "the courts" you refer to be the same august bodies that have at various times found that black men are not citizens, that government enforced segregation is ok so long as facilities are "equal", and that an unborn baby isn't a person entitled to the most basic of all rights, the right to life itself?Again, a black man, and the courts found the cops acted appropriately due to the circumstances.
I all ears for proposed solutions.Some will point to the severity of the abuses and claim them to be nothing more than a mere inconvenience. Where is the line to be drawn and who draws it? We already know from past experiences the state cannot be relied upon to apply the same standard to very very similar situations.
A reasonable man test is meaningless post Terry v. Ohio.
If anyone sees so much as a single media outlet referring to this as a hate-crime, or quoting any government official as referring to this as a hate-crime, or even quoting anyone (who isn't portrayed as a complete wingnut) referring to this as a hate-crime, please let me know. A PM is fine if you'd rather not post in the open forum for whatever reason.“[He started] asking people one by one what their religion was. ‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and if you’re a Christian stand up.
The article isn't really about said hero. It's pretext for the author's real agenda, which he repeats several times throughout it: "No amount of murder seems likely to result in gun control any time soon", as if we don't have gun control already.
can we write in the OR Gov name on the ballot when we vote next year for president??http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/2/kate-brown-oregon-governor-not-the-time-to-talk-gu/
Obama Urges Public to Become 'Single Issue' Voters on Gun Control Reform, News Oregon College Shooting Oct 2 2015, 5:53 pm E
The CCer didn't have the opportunity to intervene, but he does opine that ".......it solidifies the need for more campus carriers than ever before."CCer was 200 yards away from the shooting, didn't intervene.