Open Carry meet and greet in St. Joe

[Reverend BCal]

Marc is speaking of the Federal (edited) Gun Free Zone Act that specifies a protected zone includes any public area within 1000 feet of a "school."

 

[Superlite27]

You are correct for those without a CCW, however: http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf

Subparagraph B of the GFSZ act:


(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the
possession of a firearm—
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to
do so by the State in which the school zone is located
or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of
the State or political subdivision requires that, before
an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement
authorities of the State or political
subdivision verify that the individual is qualified
under law to receive the license;

One more good reason to get your CCW.

Although I am in 100% agreement with those who feel a "permit" to exercise a constitutional right is pure BS, it is a fact of life (at the present time). There are municipalities in St. Louis that require a CCW to OC. Why a person is required to have a licence to carry a concealed weapon in order to carry a fully exposed weapon makes absolutely no sense.....but that is just the way it is until we get full pre-emption passed.

 

[gunman]

(mogunlaws.com). it shall be unlawfull for any individual to possess a firearm,at a place he knows,or has reasonable cause to believe,is a school zone,this does not pretain to persons with a ccw with permission from school officialls.sorry dont know how to copy and paste it to the site.

 

[Marc]

ok. all good points. yes i was referring to the federal law, which might be outdated, but as other posts have shown it is a very murky area. so i agree with gunman that moving to the krug pool area might be safer, just my opinion, im willing to hear more clarification on the legality of having it in bartlett park. I'm hyped so lets keep this going any input is appreciated

 

[gunman]

ok what happen to eveyone this thread is getting pushed back down to the bottom of the page.chime in to let us know if your coming,i will be there at noon,so come when you can.see you there.(KRUG PARK).

 

[Jim40Cal]

ok what happen to eveyone this thread is getting pushed back down to the bottom of the page.chime in to let us know if your coming,i will be there at noon,so come when you can.see you there.(KRUG PARK).

I will be there with my wife and three children (5,13,17) I also need directions from Independence.

 

[gunman]

take 29 north to st.joseph,then take the 229 exit stay on 229 to st.joseph ave.stay on st.joseph ave. for about 3 miles until you see the swimming pool at krug park,it will be on your right.

 

[Marc]

Lost during platform change?

What happened did we lose all the interested folks when they switched the forums to vBulletin? If so we need to get those lost souls redirected to the new URL. If they are that technoligically advanced. LOL.

 

[BILL27GLOCK]

take 29 north to st.joseph,then take the 229 exit stay on 229 to st.joseph ave.stay on st.joseph ave. for about 3 miles until you see the swimming pool at krug park,it will be on your right.

Great, that is what I was looking for is directions. My Son and myself will still be there at around noon.
Thanks and I'm hopeing for a good turn out.

 

[gunman]

yea me to but i havent heard back from anyone else for a while,i dont know how many will be there.but i hope they start chiming in soon so i know how many hamburgers/hotdogs to get,i would hate to not have enough,that wouldnt be good for our first meet lol.we only have a little over a week before the bbq.

 

[Marc]

even though nobody seems to be replying anymore i guess that means its a good thing that Roger's on 5th ave. isnt too far from there if we need more food. lol. just looking on the positive side here

 

[BILL27GLOCK]

even though nobody seems to be replying anymore i guess that means its a good thing that Roger's on 5th ave. isnt too far from there if we need more food. lol. just looking on the positive side here

Surely more of the others will wake up in the next day or so and respond lol..Seems we had more people that said they were coming before we switched to krug park, I still think we will have quite a few there. Looking forward to it.

 

[gunman]

yea its a good thing the store is so close,and i hope we have a good turn out

 

[sohighlyunlikely]

Question

Per my info on St Joe.

http://www.ci.st-joseph.mo.us/clerk/code.cfm

Chapter 21: Parks and Recreation

Article III. Park and Recreation Facility Rules

Sec. 21-65. Firearms.
It shall be unlawful for any person to carry
firearms of any kind into or upon any parks,
parkways, boulevards or other public grounds
under the jurisdiction of the director of parks,
recreation and civic facilities unless otherwise
authorized by law. It shall be unlawful for any
person to fire or discharge any firearm of any
kind into any of the parks, parkways, boulevards
or other public grounds for any purpose
whatsoever under the jurisdiction of the director
of parks, recreation and civic facilities.
(Code 1969, § 17-16)

 

[Marc]

Per my info on St Joe.

http://www.ci.st-joseph.mo.us/clerk/code.cfm

Chapter 21: Parks and Recreation

Article III. Park and Recreation Facility Rules

Sec. 21-65. Firearms.
It shall be unlawful for any person to carry
firearms of any kind into or upon any parks,
parkways, boulevards or other public grounds
under the jurisdiction of the director of parks,
recreation and civic facilities""""""""""""""""" unless otherwise
authorized by law."""""""""""" It shall be unlawful for any
person to fire or discharge any firearm of any
kind into any of the parks, parkways, boulevards
or other public grounds for any purpose
whatsoever under the jurisdiction of the director
of parks, recreation and civic facilities.
(Code 1969, § 17-16)

Well im gonna have to take that to mean that it is authorized by law due to the fact that ordinances in this town are rarely ever updated with changes in the law. There is still one on the books that I can't recall at the moment but it was from the depression era and is not enforced now and dont even apply in this day and age, but it is technically still a law. Therefore we have kinda figured out to ignore antiquated laws around here lol. The meeting shall hopefully still go on as scheduled

 

[BILL27GLOCK]

Well im gonna have to take that to mean that it is authorized by law due to the fact that ordinances in this town are rarely ever updated with changes in the law. There is still one on the books that I can't recall at the moment but it was from the depression era and is not enforced now and dont even apply in this day and age, but it is technically still a law. Therefore we have kinda figured out to ignore antiquated laws around here lol. The meeting shall hopefully still go on as scheduled

Guess until I hear a definite "no" we can't do that, we'll be there around noon Sat.

 

[Marc]

almost time

gunman? revbcal? ive seen almost no replies lately is this still on or not? Its the 16th so i kinda gotta know something today

 

[XD40Brandon]

Is this event still on???

 

[gunman]

as far as i know its still on,would like to know how many are coming myself. because im going to buy the hamburger and hotdogs today,still not sure how much to get

 

[BILL27GLOCK]

as far as i know its still on,would like to know how many are coming myself. because im going to buy the hamburger and hotdogs today,still not sure how much to get

Hope it is still on, so you can count myself and XD40Brandon in for sure, going to try and be there around noon or shortly after.