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Open Carry Dress Code

springerdave

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CV67PAT wrote:
springerdave wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
springerdave wrote:
Oh, by the way, I gave up trying to look "normal" about 50 years ago. I guess that refusing to wear a tie and a suit coat kept me from being "normal", but that's just me. I dress as I dress. Back near the start of this forum, some one commented that no " biker vests" should be worn. Lost me right there. I don't always wear one but no one is going to tell me I can't wear one. If I'm not allowed in the click/club, tough.
Also Wardog, there is one way to spell there and one way to spell their, there is a difference, they're telling all the school kids this stuff now-a-days. Spell-check is our friend.springerdave.
Spell check only works on misspelled words. It does not recognize grammatical errors.

It does not recognize punctuation and sentence structure, as evidence by the numerous errors in your post.
Thanks for pointing that out, o king of sarcasm.springerdave.
No sarcasm. Just trying to assist you in identifying your posting errors. Not unlike your helpful post for wardog.
Good thing wardog has a big brother like you;) looking out for him.
 
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Taurus850CIA wrote:
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First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity. I agree.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC. My daughter is 10. She has been shooting since she was 7. She has also been around me quite a bit when I open carry, and has even attended events. I had more experience at 15 with firearms in general than some legal adults had when they joined this forum. Why is it that a person at 17 years, 364 days is not a viable adult, not recognized as knowledgeable and capable on the subject matter, but one day later can be?

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
I would bet that your 10 year old daughter would be far better suited to assist in planning an OC event. I can make this judgment of her based solely upon my opinion of you. I can tell that she has has parental guidance.
 

Taurus850CIA

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CrossPistols wrote:
Taurus850CIA wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity. I agree.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC. My daughter is 10. She has been shooting since she was 7. She has also been around me quite a bit when I open carry, and has even attended events. I had more experience at 15 with firearms in general than some legal adults had when they joined this forum. Why is it that a person at 17 years, 364 days is not a viable adult, not recognized as knowledgeable and capable on the subject matter, but one day later can be?

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
Oh I know! Oh! Oh! pick me please!
Can you say Arbitrary Law. The public sets a Minimum, therefor this age is the starting point. Though this does vary from state to state. Also the maturity level will vary from person to person, this is why Big Govt. cannot run successfully because it has to paint with a broad brush therefore leaving some out, and covering some who should not be left out. Example Nazi ...Oops I mean National Hussein health Care (HHC)
...and why should that apply here, a forum geared toward education of firearms laws in general, and open carry in particular?
 
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springerdave wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
springerdave wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
springerdave wrote:
Oh, by the way, I gave up trying to look "normal" about 50 years ago. I guess that refusing to wear a tie and a suit coat kept me from being "normal", but that's just me. I dress as I dress. Back near the start of this forum, some one commented that no " biker vests" should be worn. Lost me right there. I don't always wear one but no one is going to tell me I can't wear one. If I'm not allowed in the click/club, tough.
Also Wardog, there is one way to spell there and one way to spell their, there is a difference, they're telling all the school kids this stuff now-a-days. Spell-check is our friend.springerdave.
Spell check only works on misspelled words. It does not recognize grammatical errors.

It does not recognize punctuation and sentence structure, as evidence by the numerous errors in your post.
Thanks for pointing that out, o king of sarcasm.springerdave.
No sarcasm. Just trying to assist you in identifying your posting errors. Not unlike your helpful post for wardog.
Good thing wardog has a big brother like you;) looking out for him.
I thought it was you looking out for him. And I looking out for you.
 
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Taurus850CIA wrote:
CrossPistols wrote:
Taurus850CIA wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity. I agree.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC. My daughter is 10. She has been shooting since she was 7. She has also been around me quite a bit when I open carry, and has even attended events. I had more experience at 15 with firearms in general than some legal adults had when they joined this forum. Why is it that a person at 17 years, 364 days is not a viable adult, not recognized as knowledgeable and capable on the subject matter, but one day later can be?

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
Oh I know! Oh! Oh! pick me please!
Can you say Arbitrary Law. The public sets a Minimum, therefor this age is the starting point. Though this does vary from state to state. Also the maturity level will vary from person to person, this is why Big Govt. cannot run successfully because it has to paint with a broad brush therefore leaving some out, and covering some who should not be left out. Example Nazi ...Oops I mean National Hussein health Care (HHC)
...and why should that apply here, a forum geared toward education of firearms laws in general, and open carry in particular?
Correct. This is a forum geared towards education.

We can only educated those that will listen and heed advice.
 

Taurus850CIA

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CV67PAT wrote:
I would bet that your 10 year old daughter would be far better suited to assist in planning an OC event. I can make this judgment of her based solely upon my opinion of you. I can tell that she has has parental guidance.
Well, I don't know about the planning part, but...thank you.
 

Mosnar87

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perhaps being only 23 years old makes this post irrelevant, but I have always thought that if someone wishes to teach others they should act in a way that would cause them to be respected.
 

jeremiahJohnson

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Taurus850CIA wrote:
CrossPistols wrote:
Taurus850CIA wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity. I agree.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC. My daughter is 10. She has been shooting since she was 7. She has also been around me quite a bit when I open carry, and has even attended events. I had more experience at 15 with firearms in general than some legal adults had when they joined this forum. Why is it that a person at 17 years, 364 days is not a viable adult, not recognized as knowledgeable and capable on the subject matter, but one day later can be?

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
Oh I know! Oh! Oh! pick me please!
Can you say Arbitrary Law. The public sets a Minimum, therefor this age is the starting point. Though this does vary from state to state. Also the maturity level will vary from person to person, this is why Big Govt. cannot run successfully because it has to paint with a broad brush therefore leaving some out, and covering some who should not be left out. Example Nazi ...Oops I mean National Hussein health Care (HHC)
...and why should that apply here, a forum geared toward education of firearms laws in general, and open carry in particular?
as far as planning it don't, but as far as carry and being a member it does...Thats all i'm really saying... really... if you think about it... thats all really !
 

dougwg

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American Boy With a Gun wrote:
1- wardog...you come across to me as the type of person who would annoy the hell outta me due to your "back in the day" speeches, like it or not, young people are involved in the OC movement...you dont seem to like it...man it must suck to be you.."Would'nt it pay for you to sit down, shut up and learn. Instead of becoming another example of how not to be an OCer."..nope but it would pay for you to wake up and not be an over zealous young kid hating a$$...

2- lil_freak...Pat wasnt insulting my life style, and personally i wouldnt give half a rats left nut if he was...i dont care what he thinks...he thought i replied to his question, i didnt know he posted a question...as for the ponderosa thing, you had 0 as in ZERO control over what happened...i doubt things would have turned out different if Pat himself would have planned it

3- "And due to this attitude many of the young people feel that the older generation is a bunch of goofs." no...i think most of them just need to accept the young generation of people my age as we are. Were cocky because we have to be, if you havent heard, american teenagers are one of the most stressed groups of people worldwide...

4- Were here to stay...say what you want do what you will...the young people on this forum arent going anywhere..sorry fellas im here to stay

5- STOP calling me the "new kid"...my name is Adam...or use my display name...i find people calling me out of name both annoying and somewhat offensive
Okay, boy.
 

American Boy With a Gun

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Damn @#$%ing straight it is!...if theres one thing i cant stand its blatant disregard for anothers respect, and intelligence...Boy??? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....that actually made me laugh pretty hard!!...:lol::lol::lol::lol:...hehe...still chuckling actually...i assumed that most on here were more mature...i was quite obviously wrong...LMAO....thats great....doug...i dont think ive ever even conversed with you...so why are you trying to start @#$%? i mean honestly...if i wanted your opinion i would have said something to you...seeing as your opinion only upset me and caused me to lose whatever respect i had for you from seeing your other posts
 
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American Boy With a Gun wrote:
Damn @#$%ing straight it is!...if theres one thing i cant stand its blatant disregard for anothers respect, and intelligence...Boy??? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....that actually made me laugh pretty hard!!...:lol::lol::lol::lol:...hehe...still chuckling actually...i assumed that most on here were more mature...i was quite obviously wrong...LMAO....thats great....doug...i dont think ive ever even conversed with you...so why are you trying to start @#$%? i mean honestly...if i wanted your opinion i would have said something to you...seeing as your opinion only upset me and caused me to lose whatever respect i had for you from seeing your other posts
The use of profanity is a feeble attempt by the uneducated to express himself forcefully.
 

American Boy With a Gun

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CV67PAT wrote:
American Boy With a Gun wrote:
Damn @#$%ing straight it is!...if theres one thing i cant stand its blatant disregard for anothers respect, and intelligence...Boy??? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....that actually made me laugh pretty hard!!...:lol::lol::lol::lol:...hehe...still chuckling actually...i assumed that most on here were more mature...i was quite obviously wrong...LMAO....thats great....doug...i dont think ive ever even conversed with you...so why are you trying to start @#$%? i mean honestly...if i wanted your opinion i would have said something to you...seeing as your opinion only upset me and caused me to lose whatever respect i had for you from seeing your other posts
The use of profanity is a feeble attempt by the uneducated to express himself forcefully.
1- i like to consider myself pretty smart actually...if im good enough for Ferris and Lawrence Tech then i must have at least half a brain....right?

2- i swear alot when im upset...its what i do...i sometimes over react to things i take personally and i use language to express my feelings...i dont like it but its what i do...its actually very unhealthy for me to get upset to that point...high blood pressure!?!? (no im not huge...im 5'10'' 180lbs) and i have 2nd stage hypertension!?

3- pat, doug, wardog....do any of you actually have a problem with anything ive said? If so let me know...if not could you please just leave the gibes alone?

thanx
 

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1. Your responses are proving Wardog's point

2. Pats right

3. you take abstract things personal, let it roll of the back, your too young to act that damn old.

4. :celebrate
 

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CrossPistols wrote:
1. Your responses are proving Wardog's point

2. Pats right

3. you take abstract things personal, let it roll of the back, your too young to act that damn old.

4. :celebrate
i normally dont let anything bug me...i can take an insult better than most my age...but when i feel someone is insulting my intelligence then yes...i get upset. I work hard to keep my brain active, i take college CADD classes so i can learn more...im very capable of making mature decisions...sigh...i guess i sorta over reacted to more than one post on here....sorry guys....
 

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Meh I think he has done remarkably well considering some of the older (should be wiser and know better) folks have decided to gang up on the younger folks and give them a hard time.

At his age I would have been far less kind in my comments.
 

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Only you can let yourself get mad!

Your in charge of your feelings, if you can't keep them on a leash then you should pen them up!

I'm rubber your glue, what you say bounces off me & sticks to you!

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!

These are a few things we old guys were told as a kid, the new "Boyz" could learn a lot from these sayings.
 

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autosurgeon wrote:
Meh I think he has done remarkably well considering some of the older (should be wiser and know better) folks have decided to gang up on the younger folks and give them a hard time.

At his age I would have been far less kind in my comments.

When an unstoppable force, meets an immovable object...:banghead:
 
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CrossPistols wrote:
Only you can let yourself get mad!

Your in charge of your feelings, if you can't keep them on a leash then you should pen them up!

I'm rubber your glue, what you say bounces off me & sticks to you!

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!

These are a few things we old guys were told as a kid, the new "Boyz" could learn a lot from these sayings.
Isn't hard to tell something to someone that already knows it all.
 
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