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Open Carry Dress Code

wardog6d

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American Boy With a Gun wrote:
wardog6d wrote:
American Boy With a Gun wrote:
1- wardog...you come across to me as the type of person who would annoy the hell outta me due to your "back in the day" speeches, like it or not, young people are involved in the OC movement...you dont seem to like it...man it must suck to be you.."Would'nt it pay for you to sit down, shut up and learn. Instead of becoming another example of how not to be an OCer."..nope but it would pay for you to wake up and not be an over zealous young kid hating a$$...

2- lil_freak...Pat wasnt insulting my life style, and personally i wouldnt give half a rats left nut if he was...i dont care what he thinks...he thought i replied to his question, i didnt know he posted a question...as for the ponderosa thing, you had 0 as in ZERO control over what happened...i doubt things would have turned out different if Pat himself would have planned it

3- "And due to this attitude many of the young people feel that the older generation is a bunch of goofs." no...i think most of them just need to accept the young generation of people my age as we are. Were cocky because we have to be, if you havent heard, american teenagers are one of the most stressed groups of people worldwide...

4- Were here to stay...say what you want do what you will...the young people on this forum arent going anywhere..sorry fellas im here to stay

5- STOP calling me the "new kid"...my name is Adam...or use my display name...i find people calling me out of name both annoying and somewhat offensive
I dont make speeches. I state the facts. American Teens are the most stressed probably because they cant find the next cheat code for PS2 or XBOX or maybe its because they cant walk right with there pants around there ankles or maybe its because mommy made them do there home work before they can play there video games. Yay your here to stay! Until you get jacked up for some unkown level of stupidy. Then I am sure you will be on the forum as with the rest explaining how you did nothing wrong.....
Naww...if i do something stupid i take responsibility for it unless i KNOW i did nothing wrong
and there it lies. UNLESS YOU KNOW! and getting through to you might as well be a trip to mars.
 
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American Boy With a Gun wrote:
wardog6d wrote:
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you seem dead set against lil_freak setting up an event...your reason for which seems to be an encounter with ill informed LEO's...and i get this overwhelming feeling that you dont like me much...
No one under 18 should be coordinating any events. Period
and why not?....because you believe anyone under 18 to be incapable of doing anything right...because you seem to think that anyone under 18 cant think for themselves and if your 18 or older you can?...im very inclined to disagree with you
First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC.

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
 

springerdave

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Oh, by the way, I gave up trying to look "normal" about 50 years ago. I guess that refusing to wear a tie and a suit coat kept me from being "normal", but that's just me. I dress as I dress. Back near the start of this forum, some one commented that no " biker vests" should be worn. Lost me right there. I don't always wear one but no one is going to tell me I can't wear one. If I'm not allowed in the click/club, tough.
Also Wardog, there is one way to spell there and one way to spell their, there is a difference, they're telling all the school kids this stuff now-a-days. Spell-check is our friend.springerdave.
 
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zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
 
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springerdave wrote:
Oh, by the way, I gave up trying to look "normal" about 50 years ago. I guess that refusing to wear a tie and a suit coat kept me from being "normal", but that's just me. I dress as I dress. Back near the start of this forum, some one commented that no " biker vests" should be worn. Lost me right there. I don't always wear one but no one is going to tell me I can't wear one. If I'm not allowed in the click/club, tough.
Also Wardog, there is one way to spell there and one way to spell their, there is a difference, they're telling all the school kids this stuff now-a-days. Spell-check is our friend.springerdave.
Spell check only works on misspelled words. It does not recognize grammatical errors.

It does not recognize punctuation and sentence structure, as evidence by the numerous errors in your post.
 

Big Gay Al

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Bikenut wrote:
zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
Not according to Judge Napolitano. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP1Wgkh5MeE
 

jeremiahJohnson

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Bikenut wrote:
zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
Code, not rule, but I see Zig's point. Perception is half the battle. Like I said it's not us we have to impress it's the sheeple, you wanna dress like a wolf your gonna freak out the sheep, you wanna dress like a sheep, or a sheep dog you won't freak out the sheep. You can agree, or disagree this is real simple leave it to a vote, or let the Members of MOC decide on one, and it's standards. You can follow it or not, I don't think you will go to jail.
Myself I prefer uniforms lol:celebrate
 
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Bikenut wrote:
zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
Having had a conversation with zig about that post, I am aware that his intent was not what you have concluded.
 
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Big Gay Al wrote:
Bikenut wrote:
zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
Not according to Judge Napolitano. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP1Wgkh5MeE
Wrong thread BGA.

That discussion is here:

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/39503.html
 

springerdave

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CV67PAT wrote:
springerdave wrote:
Oh, by the way, I gave up trying to look "normal" about 50 years ago. I guess that refusing to wear a tie and a suit coat kept me from being "normal", but that's just me. I dress as I dress. Back near the start of this forum, some one commented that no " biker vests" should be worn. Lost me right there. I don't always wear one but no one is going to tell me I can't wear one. If I'm not allowed in the click/club, tough.
Also Wardog, there is one way to spell there and one way to spell their, there is a difference, they're telling all the school kids this stuff now-a-days. Spell-check is our friend.springerdave.
Spell check only works on misspelled words. It does not recognize grammatical errors.

It does not recognize punctuation and sentence structure, as evidence by the numerous errors in your post.
Thanks for pointing that out, o king of sarcasm.springerdave.
 

Big Gay Al

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CV67PAT wrote:
Big Gay Al wrote:
Bikenut wrote: zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
Not according to Judge Napolitano. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP1Wgkh5MeE
Wrong thread BGA. That discussion is here: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/39503.html


Nope, right thread, I was replying to his comments that are in black bold letters. To be more specific, the following.

Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to)
 
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springerdave wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
springerdave wrote:
Oh, by the way, I gave up trying to look "normal" about 50 years ago. I guess that refusing to wear a tie and a suit coat kept me from being "normal", but that's just me. I dress as I dress. Back near the start of this forum, some one commented that no " biker vests" should be worn. Lost me right there. I don't always wear one but no one is going to tell me I can't wear one. If I'm not allowed in the click/club, tough.
Also Wardog, there is one way to spell there and one way to spell their, there is a difference, they're telling all the school kids this stuff now-a-days. Spell-check is our friend.springerdave.
Spell check only works on misspelled words. It does not recognize grammatical errors.

It does not recognize punctuation and sentence structure, as evidence by the numerous errors in your post.
Thanks for pointing that out, o king of sarcasm.springerdave.
No sarcasm. Just trying to assist you in identifying your posting errors. Not unlike your helpful post for wardog.
 

Taurus850CIA

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wardog6d wrote:
The text in the forum speaks for itself. The court cases posted in this forum are all listed by the younger generation. This in itself speaks volumes in regards to there thought process. I do not disgree nor apose any and all people that support the 2nd amendment and our right. If certain individuals cannot process the information provided by the membersof this forumwith far more experiance, then why bother. PS2,XBOX and Non belt wearing freaks need not apply.

Most of the court related threads in the forum that have been posted are so fouled up it takes 10-15 pages to get the truth from the incident. Even then the so called truth is nothing of such. Once court transcipts,FOIA's and other information is released we see the real truth.
...or does it speak volumes about the choice of target by law enforcement...
 
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CV67PAT wrote:
Bikenut wrote:
zigziggityzoo wrote:
Hi All,

I've done a bit of thinking. Since we are the de facto face of the gun rights movement - It would seem prudent to make sure that we are presentable to the public whenever we're in public.

I don't think this means that we should always be wearing our sunday best - but I do think that we shouldn't dress like we just came back from hunting, or like we haven't done laundry in a month or two.

This holds especially true for the bigger events we host - since those draw press attention, we should be on the top of our game, and that includes dressing well.

I don't know what all of the rules should be, and I don't think that the rules are set in stone, so to speak. What say you all?
Hmmmmmm... and OC'ers get upset about businesses having a "no gun" rule (that they have every "right" to) yet there should be "rules" about how an OC'er should dress at an OC event?

Something about that just doesn't fit.:D
Having had a conversation with zig about that post, I am aware that his intent was not what you have concluded.
The typed word is such a limited means of communication!!!

I added the "smiley" at the end to indicate I wasn't complaining... or taking to task...

But there isn't a "smiley" for a friendly poke in the ribs type chuckle thingy.:D

However, your conversation with Zig didn't make it into his post either... and that isn't a complaint or taking to task either... just a statement that I, and most likely the greater majority of those reading Zig's post, didn't hear that conversation.

Although hearing that conversation wasn't necessary to understand the general intent of Zig's post either... but you know someone was going to point out the incongruity sooner or later....

Either way.... my post was intended in a friendly manner. As is this one.:D
 

Taurus850CIA

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CV67PAT wrote:
First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity. I agree.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC. My daughter is 10. She has been shooting since she was 7. She has also been around me quite a bit when I open carry, and has even attended events. I had more experience at 15 with firearms in general than some legal adults had when they joined this forum. Why is it that a person at 17 years, 364 days is not a viable adult, not recognized as knowledgeable and capable on the subject matter, but one day later can be?

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
 
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Seems to me that anyone... at any age... can set up an OC event and publicize said event on the forum of OCDO ... including the Michigan subforum... without said event having anything what so ever to do with MOC.

Is that correct or not?
 

jeremiahJohnson

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Taurus850CIA wrote:
CV67PAT wrote:
First of all, chronological age has nothing to do with maturity. I agree.

Second, minors have no experience with the subject matter of this forum or the organization of MOC. My daughter is 10. She has been shooting since she was 7. She has also been around me quite a bit when I open carry, and has even attended events. I had more experience at 15 with firearms in general than some legal adults had when they joined this forum. Why is it that a person at 17 years, 364 days is not a viable adult, not recognized as knowledgeable and capable on the subject matter, but one day later can be?

Third, minors are not allowed to be fully rercogized members of MOC. Therefore cannot represent MOC. Using OCDO as a cover for MOC is disingenuous if not deceitful.
Oh I know! Oh! Oh! pick me please!
Can you say Arbitrary Law. The public sets a Minimum, therefor this age is the starting point. Though this does vary from state to state. Also the maturity level will vary from person to person, this is why Big Govt. cannot run successfully because it has to paint with a broad brush therefore leaving some out, and covering some who should not be left out. Example Nazi ...Oops I mean National Hussein health Care (HHC)
 
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