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No primary election (by ballot) in Washington State this year

sudden valley gunner

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Was nominated to be a delegate by the only other Ron Paul supporter in my caucus, but was out voted by the Santorum supporters, If I would have known how the caucus worked I would have got more of my immediate neighbors involved and we could have easily gone Ron Paul.

Romney had very little support in the county, Paul and Santorum had large support. They didn't announce the straw poll, but some believe Paul was around 50%.
 

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Well,,,

Well I set my clock and I was up and atom and got to the caucus on time!
there were about 21 folks in my precinct, and about 200 folks in total of all pricincts in the room.
our count was about 6- Paul, 6- Romney, 5- Santorum, 4- Gingrich.
we have delegets for the 3 front runners,
I am the alternate deleget for Paul.
the whole prossess was very disorganized and confusing.

The funny thing that happened was,,, a big guy stood and said he wanted to speak for Romney,
another guy also stood saying he wanted to speak for Romney, "I think they knew each other,
then the smaller guy said, "youre bigger, but ive got this",,,
he then reached back to the 4 oclock position, and drew his hand back out as if to draw a gun!
his hand was empty, and I watched his shirt and pants as he went to sit down, I could not see any signs of a gun or printing.

I was casual carrying
 

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Caucased at a school left my pistol in truck

btw Paul is toast!! No room for antisemites in the GOP anyway. Eretz Israel
 

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Well, most of the results are in, Okanogan co went 46% for Paul. Start at Okanogan Co, go east, then south at the Idaho boarder to Oregon, every one of the "fringe" counties went for Paul..except for Spokane Co, it went to Romney. Chalen hasn't reported yet.

as of 19:40, Chalen has not reported, King is missing about 1/2 it's precincts and so is Pierce.
 
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tombrewster421

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Well, I attended my caucus this morning at a local high school :(
The turnout was around 700 or so for all the precincts in south Pierce County. My precinct had a total of 7 turnout. 4 delegates to be chosen, plus the PCO. Two didn't want to be delegates so the reaming four took the seats. Including me of course.:)
I also nominated my wife and my mother as alternates. Now I just need to convince them how important it will be for them to attend.
 

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btw Paul is toast!! No room for antisemites in the GOP anyway. Eretz Israel

I was wondering when an Israel-first zealot would check in. No doubt you'll be calling Hannity to brag, so he can tell you what a great American you are for being such a good little robot.
 

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btw Paul is toast!! No room for antisemites in the GOP anyway. Eretz Israel

To play devils advocate. Let's say YOU get to pick the next president. Just you, no one else. You must pick one of the the following two candidates:

Person A: An admitted anti-Semite. Also a person who beyond the shadow of a doubt would follow the COTUS, and turn back laws, regulations, and regulatory agencies to be in line with the Constitution. Reduce government spending dramatically. Reduce debt. Stop inflation. 100% sure to improve civil Rights. The Rights of every person will be more secure -- regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

Person B: Definitely not an anti-Semite. 100% sure to piss on the COTUS. Also a person who will beyond the shadow of a doubt Increase spending. Increase debt. Increase inflation. Will absolutely decrease civil Rights. The Rights of every person will diminished and infringed upon based on -- race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

So, what's your choice?
 
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As I choose to use the term Pro-Life for my understanding of when live begins, I also choose to call myself Pro-American because of my understanding of the constitution.

If you want to call Ron Paul an anti-anything, you just show how little reguard you have for both the US constitution and the 10 commandments.

If my understanding of the seventh commandment puts me in conflict with those that would take something I have worked hard for and earned, and use it for I purpose I do not approve of, then so be it. Theft is theft, it doesn't matter who is doing it. If you take something one person owns, and give it to another...that is theft. If a government taxes anyone's income, the funds should only be used to benifit everyone, equally. (the common good) Trying to bribe another nation is not for the common good.

They call it "foreign aid" because if they called it "bribery" or "influence peddling", someone might complain, just like they complain when someone is anti-abortion..
 

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Thank you! I've been saying this for years! The parties are essentially private clubs; let them pay to elect their own officers!

"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796
 

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I'm having a hard time seeing the accuracy in this statement. One first kind of contradicts the last.


Engage some logic.

One can be ardently anti-abortion, and yet so pro-freedom that they would not promote or pass any law which made abortion illegal.

One can be 100% anti-drug, and yet recognize that anti-drug laws are 100% un-Constitutional and should be stricken from the books.

One can be anti-Semite, and yet respectful of the inalienable Rights of any American citizen -- regardless of religion.

If nothing else, all of the above are logically possible (theoretically possible) and my question was an admitted thought experiment.
 
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Engage some logic.

One can be ardently anti-abortion, and yet so pro-freedom that they would not promote or pass any law which made abortion illegal.

One can be 100% anti-drug, and yet recognize that anti-drug laws are 100% un-Constitutional and should be stricken from the books.

One can be anti-Semite, and yet respectful of the inalienable Rights of any American citizen -- regardless of religion.

If nothing else, all of the above are logically possible (theoretically possible) and my question was an admitted thought experiment.

Good points.

I would like to add that you cannot outlaw immoral behavior since the immoral will break laws to participate in the behaviors they wish to. Thus Prohibition, the "War on Drugs", etc. will never work, even though they may be well meant.

As a side note, I really doubt they are merely "well meant" laws. There is often (always) another motive behind the actions of those in power.

"One method of assault may be to effect, in the forms of the Constitution, alterations which will impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown." George Washington
 
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