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NC OC experience reports

Grapeshot

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Jrebb, I am in the Spring Lake/Sanford area, you should hit me up sometime and maybe we can grab lunch or something.

I know there is at least 3 other open carriers in the Sanford area, however, I am not sure if they are members here.

Next time you see them, encourage them to sign on - educate, expand our numbers.
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dmatting

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Durham, NC
Let me give you some food for thought. First off

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Secondly I realize it is a comfort issue thing but I would never carry a firearm that I was not 100% confident in its' ability to not shoot without my input. You will most likely need your sidearm when you least expect it and are in the worst position imaginable. Have you tried chambering a round after being knocked down? While carrying your child? Stab your off hand then try working the slide. My only agenda for carrying is self protection not to make a fashion statement, how about you?

single handed slide racking is possible and one can get proficient at it with practice (i would suggest practicing unloaded). you basically use the rear sights to hold the slide stationary against your holster while pushing on the grip. This assumes a few things, such as your holster being strong sided. i saw a youtube video of this technique once and i have tried it a few times - it does work. if i remember when i am on my computer, i will find it and post the link.
 

Jrebb

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Apr 11, 2013
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Harnett, NC
Hotrod, I am thinking about trying to get a "sandhills" meet and greet going. Fayettville' sanford, spring lake, anywhere close. Kinda like the guys in the triangle and charlotte have going. Hopefully soon ther will be a thread for it soon. Maybeeen a sticky¿¿

+1. Definately let the other OCers you know of about the forum and encourage them to join.!!
 

WalkingWolf

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Hotrod, I am thinking about trying to get a "sandhills" meet and greet going. Fayettville' sanford, spring lake, anywhere close. Kinda like the guys in the triangle and charlotte have going. Hopefully soon ther will be a thread for it soon. Maybeeen a sticky¿¿

+1. Definately let the other OCers you know of about the forum and encourage them to join.!!

I used to like going to the IHOP in Spring Lake, but the place is just too darn crowded anymore. Wish we had one in Sanford, but then I like going to the Brass Kettle.
 

Jrebb

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Harnett, NC
Walkingwolf. How would you feel about trying to put together a local meet and greet? I'm not sure where the brass kettle is, but I'm assuming they are OC friendly. I'm open to other options as wee naturally
 

hotrod08

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Hotrod, I am thinking about trying to get a "sandhills" meet and greet going. Fayettville' sanford, spring lake, anywhere close. Kinda like the guys in the triangle and charlotte have going. Hopefully soon ther will be a thread for it soon. Maybeeen a sticky¿¿

+1. Definately let the other OCers you know of about the forum and encourage them to join.!!

Sounds like a plan.
 

NC-Heel

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Jan 31, 2012
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Charlotte, NC
single handed slide racking is possible and one can get proficient at it with practice (i would suggest practicing unloaded). you basically use the rear sights to hold the slide stationary against your holster while pushing on the grip. This assumes a few things, such as your holster being strong sided. i saw a youtube video of this technique once and i have tried it a few times - it does work. if i remember when i am on my computer, i will find it and post the link.
And the thug standing over you with a knife is going to wait while you finish this fine motor skill function while under duress? If he has a gun the fight is already over while a round is trying to be chambered. There are many ways to do it but all are infinitely more time consuming and require more fine motor skills than drawing a loaded firearm.
 

dmatting

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Durham, NC
And the thug standing over you with a knife is going to wait while you finish this fine motor skill function while under duress? If he has a gun the fight is already over while a round is trying to be chambered. There are many ways to do it but all are infinitely more time consuming and require more fine motor skills than drawing a loaded firearm.

i never said anything about a scenario, just that racking can be done one handed. the idea behind it though, is that one arm is wounded or incapacitated for some reason and you experience an ftf or stovepipe or similar and need to clear and rack.
 

rotorhead

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Sep 18, 2010
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FL
I used to like going to the IHOP in Spring Lake, but the place is just too darn crowded anymore. Wish we had one in Sanford, but then I like going to the Brass Kettle.

I go to the Cedar Point restaurant in Spring Lake pretty often, especially if I'm heading up to 37 PSR for some shooting. It's a decent little restaurant serving all the usual country meals at decent prices. I OC in there regularly and haven't had a problem with anyone so far. The owners and staff seem more than OK with it.

I used to go to the newer Waffle House across from the Walmart up until last year. The "greeter" guy in there used to say that guns were fine and that the posted sign in the parking lot was for the parking lot only- as in they didn't want thugs coming and hanging around with guns after they got out of the hip-hop bars. I guess something changed along the way, though. I went there with someone about 6 months ago and was stopped by the very same guy who told me that guns are not allowed inside there.

Not a problem, cya. We went over to the Cedar Point restaurant that day and everything was fine.
 

NC-Heel

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i never said anything about a scenario, just that racking can be done one handed. the idea behind it though, is that one arm is wounded or incapacitated for some reason and you experience an ftf or stovepipe or similar and need to clear and rack.
But the context of the conversation that you commented on was carrying without a chambered round. By supplying a way to chamber a round you are suggesting unloaded carry is as viable as loaded carry. Please give me a scenario in a self defense situation where time will be afforded to manipulate the slide to chamber a round into an unloaded firearm?
 

Grapeshot

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Originally Posted by dmatting

i never said anything about a scenario, just that racking can be done one handed. the idea behind it though, is that one arm is wounded or incapacitated for some reason and you experience an ftf or stovepipe or similar and need to clear and rack.

But the context of the conversation that you commented on was carrying without a chambered round. By supplying a way to chamber a round you are suggesting unloaded carry is as viable as loaded carry. Please give me a scenario in a self defense situation where time will be afforded to manipulate the slide to chamber a round into an unloaded firearm?

I think that is hardly the point. We each decide how to carry for ourselves. There is no mandatory way to carry, good advise perhaps, but not mandatory.

As for me, I always carry my 1911 cocked and locked - no extra effort required. However, on the rare occasion that I carry a wheel gun (single or double action), I do not carry it with a cocked the hammer.
 

NC-Heel

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I think that is hardly the point. We each decide how to carry for ourselves. There is no mandatory way to carry, good advise perhaps, but not mandatory.

As for me, I always carry my 1911 cocked and locked - no extra effort required. However, on the rare occasion that I carry a wheel gun (single or double action), I do not carry it with a cocked the hammer.
No one is talking about carrying "cocked & locked". We are talking about carrying a loaded weapon versus a unloaded weapon. Slight difference. Would you carry a revolver with 2 empty slots in the cylinder? That would be the equivalent of carrying a semi auto without one in the chamber. First empty slot would be so the revolver did not magically fire without the trigger being pulled and the second empty slot would be so it did not fire if the trigger was accidentally pulled.

People can do whatever they want. Is open carrying about making a statement or self defense? What if I carried without any ammo whatsoever? That is the safest way to carry a firearm. Zero chance of a negligent discharge. Am I actually open carrying then? Might as well get a blue gun. I worry more about people with firearms and zero training than I do BG's. More people get shot negligently/accidentally than they do with intention every year. Not having the confidence to carry a modern, properly maintained firearm with a round chambered, to me, signals a total lack of training and understanding of how a firearm operates.

I realize some people are timid and need to take baby steps in open carry. I try to encourage them to carry in the best way, percentage wise, to protect themselves and others as quickly as they become comfortable. If someone is hesitant to carry a loaded firearm how hesitant will they be to use it when their life or someone else depends on it?

Carry however you want but know if you ever took one of my defensive pistol classes I would quickly teach you how ineffective and dangerous empty chamber carry is. You would "die" in every defensive scenario drill we run.*

I use the term "you" in a general sense and it is not intended to single any one person or entity out.
 

nobama

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I wont tell people how to carry,thats their business, but, I cannot think of one good reason to not carry with one in the pipe.If you R E A L L Y stop and think about it, My opinion only, It might actually be safer.
 

Collins85

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Jan 2, 2013
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Newport, NC
OC'd today at Wal-Mart in Morehead with the family. No complaints, no double takes, it was a nice outing.;)
 
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Resto Guy

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Aug 3, 2008
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Would you carry a revolver with 2 empty slots in the cylinder? That would be the equivalent of carrying a semi auto without one in the chamber. First empty slot would be so the revolver did not magically fire without the trigger being pulled and the second empty slot would be so it did not fire if the trigger was accidentally pulled.

About 15 years ago I took my wife and her widowed best friend out to do some shooting. I had a Ruger 9mm and my 4" Rossi. Her friend brought along her late husband's old single-action 38 special. It was her home self defense weapon and she had never fired it. I walked her through the rules of safely handling a firearm, how it worked, etc. Then I fired some rounds through it and she had her turn. At the end of the day I made sure her gun was empty and asked her if she had any ammo for it. That's when she told me.......
She said if someone broke in on her, she would want to give them "a chance to get away before having to shoot them", so she always made sure there were only four rounds in it. That way, the first two "shots" nothing would happen and it would scare them. Really, that came out of her mouth.
I think my jaw probably hit the tops of my shoes when she said that. No amount of common sense reasoning would sway her. Believe me, I tried. Then I offered to buy the gun, because I told her someone will kill her with it.
Several years later I learned that a low-life "boyfriend" had stolen it from her.
 

WalkingWolf

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North Carolina
Walkingwolf. How would you feel about trying to put together a local meet and greet? I'm not sure where the brass kettle is, but I'm assuming they are OC friendly. I'm open to other options as wee naturally

Sure, Brass Kettle is on Horner just north of Arby's on the same side of the street. It is a small cafe, but the food, IMO is good and the are not expensive. It is not a big place but I don't think we have that many OCers in Sanford. I usually only see a couple when I am out if I am lucky. I don't eat much so I don't do the Golden Corral but there is one in Sanford for big eaters. Though I have no idea if they are OC friendly or not. Brass Kettle is a place where the locals eat, they have never said a harsh word to me about carrying, but next time I am in there I will run it past them of having a group in there.

I go to the Cedar Point restaurant in Spring Lake pretty often, especially if I'm heading up to 37 PSR for some shooting. It's a decent little restaurant serving all the usual country meals at decent prices. I OC in there regularly and haven't had a problem with anyone so far. The owners and staff seem more than OK with it.

I used to go to the newer Waffle House across from the Walmart up until last year. The "greeter" guy in there used to say that guns were fine and that the posted sign in the parking lot was for the parking lot only- as in they didn't want thugs coming and hanging around with guns after they got out of the hip-hop bars. I guess something changed along the way, though. I went there with someone about 6 months ago and was stopped by the very same guy who told me that guns are not allowed inside there.

Not a problem, cya. We went over to the Cedar Point restaurant that day and everything was fine.

The last time we were in Spring Lake the Cedar Point was packed also, but then Sunday is not a good day to try to grab a bite in a restaurant after church lets out.
 
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WalkingWolf

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There are times when a police officer will carry a unloaded gun or completely disarm, but then police officers are much more likely to suffer a gun grab. ISP training years ago with the M-39 was to remove the magazine in those situations, where there was not time to disarm, or a place to store your weapon. Common places we did this was mental wards, or crowded bars were fights were likely. When I was carrying my revolver I would empty it but still kept a 1911 in a shoulder holster loaded. I did like the 39 because if somebody went for your gun you could pop the magazine, then get another one in quickly if needed.
 

ron73440

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Mar 3, 2013
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Suffolk VA
SNIP More people get shot negligently/accidentally than they do with intention every year. SNIP

Is this true?

I usually hear this stat from anti's so I never give it much thought.

It seems highly unlikely that there are more accidents than homicides, let alone if you add suicides in the mix.
 

Justin Titus

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Apr 13, 2013
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North Carolina, United States
First day of OC'ing

Hello all....new to open carry.org and new to open carry in general and thought I'd share my first day of open carry with you. So it was pretty much uneventful. Open carried in the Zaxby's in Albemarle NC with two game wardens sitting at a booth across from me, not a word or look from them. Then on my way home stopped at the food lion in Oakboro NC and again nothing no looks or anything...so first day of open carry went pretty good I would say....had the wife and kids with me and I guess that helped out the situation.
 
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