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Man shot 22 times before finally going down.
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Tumbleweeds
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SFCRetired wrote:
SFCRetired wrote:
One word describes this- psycology. unlike an animal, a person knows that a bullet can kill him/her. It's the reason one person goes down after being scratched with a .22lr and another enraged (for whatever reason)person takes multible shots from a heavy caliber gun before going down.
ODA 226
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Citizen wrote:
Citizen wrote:
Big Government Liberal??? Nah. That be JOHNNYB, JOHNNY BLISS, TIPSY McSTAGGER and now, MR. BIGGLES!!!!! Troll of the 20th Degree and the hater of all forms of government. He's been kicked out of here at least 3 times and the idiot keeps coming back! Oh well... he's just gonna have to get kicked again! See ya JohnnyB!
deepdiver
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Hawkflyer wrote:
*And I agree with ODA226 and Citizen as to the likely "real" identity of Mr Biggles. - I wsa going to call him on it in another thread but, um, I hate to admit this, I couldn't remember the user name JohnnyB at that moment.*
Hawkflyer wrote:
Oh no, we are still going to call you BGL - kinda like calling the biggest guy in the room "Tiny". Think of it as JohnnyB's legacy -- the one positive thing he has contributed to the forum.
*And I agree with ODA226 and Citizen as to the likely "real" identity of Mr Biggles. - I wsa going to call him on it in another thread but, um, I hate to admit this, I couldn't remember the user name JohnnyB at that moment.*
Hawkflyer
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deepdiver wrote:
So "a..Stylze" thinks I am an "sovereign individualist" who wants to abolish the federal government. This guy "Biggles" won't lift his tin foil hat high enough to actually read stuff but he thinks I am some sort of Marxist anti-Christ.
SO while this is interesting I have no idea how a person can get to this place.
NOBODY has EVER called me a liberal in my entire life.:what:
Even my conservative friends think I am to far right.:banghead:
deepdiver wrote:
Hawkflyer wrote:Oh no, we are still going to call you BGL - kinda like calling the biggest guy in the room "Tiny". Think of it as JohnnyB's legacy -- the one positive thing he has contributed to the forum.
*And I agree with ODA226 and Citizen as to the likely "real" identity of Mr Biggles. - I wsa going to call him on it in another thread but, um, I hate to admit this, I couldn't remember the user name JohnnyB at that moment.*
So "a..Stylze" thinks I am an "sovereign individualist" who wants to abolish the federal government. This guy "Biggles" won't lift his tin foil hat high enough to actually read stuff but he thinks I am some sort of Marxist anti-Christ.
SO while this is interesting I have no idea how a person can get to this place.
NOBODY has EVER called me a liberal in my entire life.:what:
Even my conservative friends think I am to far right.:banghead:
deepdiver
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Hawkflyer wrote:
Hawkflyer wrote:
Then they should get a kick out of your new nickname, BGL.
Hcidem
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Will January '08 go down in the history of this forum as the month of cleansing?
This guy, mrbiggles, registered shortly after I did, and we happened to post in the same thread. I had to disengage from him almost right from the beginning.
I like the fact that online forums draw in folks with different points of view. I realize that this comes at the cost of some amount of disruption to the line of discussion. However, there are definite boundaries to what is acceptable.
I had monitored this thread for awhile, but had nothing of substance to add. I forgot it for a few days then came back to find page after page of this fellow's attacks on Hawkflyer, who has alway struck me as a positive asset to the forum.
...another thread bites the dust...
Ionly vaguely rememberedthe specter of johnnybuntil it was mentioned here. Finding the marked similarities wasn't very hard.
EDIT: Sorry...after I hit "send" I noticed his updated status. Carry on guys...
Will January '08 go down in the history of this forum as the month of cleansing?
This guy, mrbiggles, registered shortly after I did, and we happened to post in the same thread. I had to disengage from him almost right from the beginning.
I like the fact that online forums draw in folks with different points of view. I realize that this comes at the cost of some amount of disruption to the line of discussion. However, there are definite boundaries to what is acceptable.
I had monitored this thread for awhile, but had nothing of substance to add. I forgot it for a few days then came back to find page after page of this fellow's attacks on Hawkflyer, who has alway struck me as a positive asset to the forum.
...another thread bites the dust...
Ionly vaguely rememberedthe specter of johnnybuntil it was mentioned here. Finding the marked similarities wasn't very hard.
EDIT: Sorry...after I hit "send" I noticed his updated status. Carry on guys...
PT111
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Don't worry, he will be back shortly with another name if he isn't already.
Don't worry, he will be back shortly with another name if he isn't already.
Doug Huffman
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And I just caught user 6722 lurking, evidently not realizing that his screen-name is posted in the 'Who's Online' box bottom of the front page.
And I just caught user 6722 lurking, evidently not realizing that his screen-name is posted in the 'Who's Online' box bottom of the front page.
marshaul
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PT111 wrote:
PT111 wrote:
Who's worried? I can take the heat. Some folks are just a little timid when it comes to forums.
Hawkflyer
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Hcidem wrote:)
I too enjoy the variety of opinions and points of view in forums like this. I agree with you that there are limits to what is acceptable. In that regard it must be recognized that it takes two to Waltz., and I must accept part of the blame for the exchange that occurred. For that I really do owe this forum and its members my heart felt apologies.
I can see now that I stepped on a land mine that I did not know was there, but that is no excuse for not cutting it off sooner. My only defense of that failure is that I took particular offense at the unfounded accusations of unconstitutional behavior in my work. This guy has no idea the lengths I have gone to in protecting all our constitutionally recognized rights from the inside, and how difficult that is. Please do not misunderstand me. I am not looking for sympathy, or blowing any "holier than thou horns" here. As Grapeshot always says "we are equals", and I am no more or lees that any of you. I am just trying to explain why I failed in this instance to shut this down sooner.
With my apologies
Hcidem wrote:
Thank you Sir for your kind words, and the rest of you as well (even you deepdiver
)I too enjoy the variety of opinions and points of view in forums like this. I agree with you that there are limits to what is acceptable. In that regard it must be recognized that it takes two to Waltz., and I must accept part of the blame for the exchange that occurred. For that I really do owe this forum and its members my heart felt apologies.
I can see now that I stepped on a land mine that I did not know was there, but that is no excuse for not cutting it off sooner. My only defense of that failure is that I took particular offense at the unfounded accusations of unconstitutional behavior in my work. This guy has no idea the lengths I have gone to in protecting all our constitutionally recognized rights from the inside, and how difficult that is. Please do not misunderstand me. I am not looking for sympathy, or blowing any "holier than thou horns" here. As Grapeshot always says "we are equals", and I am no more or lees that any of you. I am just trying to explain why I failed in this instance to shut this down sooner.
With my apologies
marshaul
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Well, if the forums are not a better place for that little spat then I myself feel ever so slightly enlightened (mostly by your posts, but then again I must be the only person here who enjoys Johnny's input. To me, he's kind of like a libertarian version of bear, except not quite as abrasive.).
So, no apology needed at this end. I enjoy a little dispute, and as childish as we all like to accuse each other of being, most attacks actually contain real information rather than name-slewing. So, color me, at the very least, not bored. :lol:
Well, if the forums are not a better place for that little spat then I myself feel ever so slightly enlightened (mostly by your posts, but then again I must be the only person here who enjoys Johnny's input. To me, he's kind of like a libertarian version of bear, except not quite as abrasive.
).So, no apology needed at this end. I enjoy a little dispute, and as childish as we all like to accuse each other of being, most attacks actually contain real information rather than name-slewing. So, color me, at the very least, not bored. :lol:
Doug Huffman
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Doug Huffman wrote:
I actually learn a lot and enjoy about 95% of the site, it's the 5% that I don't need the trouble from. I do get a good laugh from Sheriff's blatant lies, but that's about it.
_____Original Message_____
From: Doug Huffman
Date: 2009-01-06 11:55:49
Subject: Ha ha. Caught ya lurkin
And I got a screen shot of the 'who's on line'
Doug Huffman wrote:
Tue Jan 6th, 2009 14:01
I actually learn a lot and enjoy about 95% of the site, it's the 5% that I don't need the trouble from. I do get a good laugh from Sheriff's blatant lies, but that's about it.
_____Original Message_____
From: Doug Huffman
Date: 2009-01-06 11:55:49
Subject: Ha ha. Caught ya lurkin
And I got a screen shot of the 'who's on line'
Hawkflyer
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Ok .... Lets just let it go. The guy said he wanted to leave, and I think everyone here should just let him go in peace. Harassing after someone says they are not going to post anymore is like "back shooting" them.
The guy has made a statement here asking to be left alone. If he leaves people here alone then he should be left alone.
It does not matter if he or anyone else lurks the forum, as long as he is not causing a problem, I don't have any issue with him reading the postsand nobody else should either.
I would ask those of you who may feel offended in some way by this post to let him have the last word. I can ask that because he doesn't like me much either so I know some of those comments were made to me. If I can let it go so can the rest of you. It does not matter if he is right or wrong, let it go.
Ok .... Lets just let it go. The guy said he wanted to leave, and I think everyone here should just let him go in peace. Harassing after someone says they are not going to post anymore is like "back shooting" them.
The guy has made a statement here asking to be left alone. If he leaves people here alone then he should be left alone.
It does not matter if he or anyone else lurks the forum, as long as he is not causing a problem, I don't have any issue with him reading the postsand nobody else should either.
I would ask those of you who may feel offended in some way by this post to let him have the last word. I can ask that because he doesn't like me much either so I know some of those comments were made to me. If I can let it go so can the rest of you. It does not matter if he is right or wrong, let it go.
Citizen
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Forum,
As a registered member youcan control getting PM's, and control getting e-mail notices about both topics and PMs.
Go to the top right of your screen and click on "My Account."
On the page that opens, click on "Preferences."
You can even go "invisible" by clicking a preference that turns off your name in the "who's on-line" list on the main page, even when you are logged on.
Forum,
As a registered member youcan control getting PM's, and control getting e-mail notices about both topics and PMs.
Go to the top right of your screen and click on "My Account."
On the page that opens, click on "Preferences."
You can even go "invisible" by clicking a preference that turns off your name in the "who's on-line" list on the main page, even when you are logged on.
40s-and-wfan
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Wow, it's amazing how the topic of discussion can waiver so much in these threads. It reminds me of being in school and standing in line and having the teacher tell the student in front something and seeing how much it's changed when it gets to the end of the line.
Anyways, I had to interject something here. This thread was originally started with the argument that the .40S&W one-shot-stops was a myth. It made me laugh. I've heard of larger caliber handguns that were touted as One-Shot-Stop calibers like the .44, the .45ACP and others of larger size. I believe the second poster had it correctly when he was talking about how the article doesn't address bullet performance as far as expansion and other important factors.
Looking at this from another viewpoint, a handgun caliber could have the reputation of One-Shot-Stops, but that reputation is going to falter depending on where the subject was hit. Take deer hunting for example: If you have either a careless hunter or someone who, for some reason mistakenly takes a gut-shot, it's not gonna matter what kind of Mambo-Magnum he was shooting with. The deer will more than likely run a ways. The same will go for any shady, criminal type. If you're shooting a .357, .40S&W, .45ACP, .454 Casull or anything else, if you don't hit him properly it's not going to stop the individual every time.
Also taking into account performance of the bullet, that's always a factor. If using a larger caliber traveling at a high speed, the bullet is not going to reach peak performance if you're right up against the subject either.
I've taught many people about defense, personal protection, caliber selection and other subjects and these are all things I tell them to take into consideration when selecting a personal protection firearm!
Oh well, I'm rambling now. Just wanted to see if I could steer this back on subject a little bit and address some thoughts I had.
Have fun y'all!!
Wow, it's amazing how the topic of discussion can waiver so much in these threads. It reminds me of being in school and standing in line and having the teacher tell the student in front something and seeing how much it's changed when it gets to the end of the line.
Anyways, I had to interject something here. This thread was originally started with the argument that the .40S&W one-shot-stops was a myth. It made me laugh. I've heard of larger caliber handguns that were touted as One-Shot-Stop calibers like the .44, the .45ACP and others of larger size. I believe the second poster had it correctly when he was talking about how the article doesn't address bullet performance as far as expansion and other important factors.
Looking at this from another viewpoint, a handgun caliber could have the reputation of One-Shot-Stops, but that reputation is going to falter depending on where the subject was hit. Take deer hunting for example: If you have either a careless hunter or someone who, for some reason mistakenly takes a gut-shot, it's not gonna matter what kind of Mambo-Magnum he was shooting with. The deer will more than likely run a ways. The same will go for any shady, criminal type. If you're shooting a .357, .40S&W, .45ACP, .454 Casull or anything else, if you don't hit him properly it's not going to stop the individual every time.
Also taking into account performance of the bullet, that's always a factor. If using a larger caliber traveling at a high speed, the bullet is not going to reach peak performance if you're right up against the subject either.
I've taught many people about defense, personal protection, caliber selection and other subjects and these are all things I tell them to take into consideration when selecting a personal protection firearm!
Oh well, I'm rambling now. Just wanted to see if I could steer this back on subject a little bit and address some thoughts I had.
Have fun y'all!!
Armed4Life
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Hawkflyer wrote:
Hawkflyer wrote:
I prefer not to be shot with either one!
Pagan
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One of the reasons I carry 9mm fmj rounds, is that they have been used in combat in war zones around the world, the lethality is beyound doubt, same as the .45acp both PROVEN killers in real world combat for consecutive decades.
I'm sure the .40 is a decent round, but it has not been combat tested long enough to justify me getting one.
Maybe the guy was the first example of modern humans evolving into some kinda supeman type animal,least he's dead now.
One of the reasons I carry 9mm fmj rounds, is that they have been used in combat in war zones around the world, the lethality is beyound doubt, same as the .45acp both PROVEN killers in real world combat for consecutive decades.
I'm sure the .40 is a decent round, but it has not been combat tested long enough to justify me getting one.
Maybe the guy was the first example of modern humans evolving into some kinda supeman type animal,least he's dead now.