Hampton Roads - OC reports

[Thundar]

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Carried in front of Chesapeake Detention Center, though it was covered part of the time due to heavy rain.

Also carried at Battlefield Farm Fresh and Dollar Tree.

 

[Bullbuster]

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This forum and topic is exactly why I'm here and while this is my first post and I couldn't find another topic to suit my intro, here it goes.

29/M, Hitched+3 pups 7g,4b,20m/b. Active Navy 10+. Eat sleep breath burnt gun powder, hunting, and fishing.

New to the OC & CC thing here in Norfolk. Hence why I'm here to learn all I can. Wife is SCARED someone will pitch a fit about it. Bless her hart but she's gun shy(didn't listen to-hold it snug to your shoulder, don't put your eye so close, grip it tight). Wanna make sure I got them ducks in a row if I'm ever stopped. Still trying to figure out all the places ya can and can't OC as my CC ain't back yet.

Again I'm here to learn. Teach me!!!

 

[Bubba Ron]

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Bullbuster wrote:

New to the OC & CC thing here in Norfolk....Again I'm here to learn. Teach me!!!

First - welcome and keep reading - here and at the VCDL link below

Second - join the Virginia Citizens Defense League www.vcdl.org

Third - signup for the free VA-Alerts on the above website - you'll learn a LOT

Fourth - follow the Tidewater (insert appropriate month here) Open Carry Dining Out threads on this website on the Virginia page - and join us - you don't have to carry but if you do you, and we're eating at a restaurant that serves alcohol, you have to open carry. This is also a great way to experience open carry with many others that have a lot of experience with open carry.

 

[vt357]

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Bullbuster wrote:

Again I'm here to learn. Teach me!!!

Print this out and have it with you. Great little reference guide.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=516

 

[Bullbuster]

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Thanks for the info. I'm a new member of VCDL and do have the pamphlet as well. But I would like to attend one of the dinner functions. Being able to OC and CC was one of the reasions I moved to VA. Couldn't take the Anti BS and laws in CA any longer. I'll look and see when the next dinner is happening.

 

[Thundar]

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Bullbuster, if you are stationed at Naval Station Norfolk the Camp Allen Weapons Range is a great deal. Ammo is cheap, range time is cheap and the facilities are first rate.

 

[S&W 910S]

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mrguppy wrote:

Thundar wrote:

mrguppy wrote:

Thundar wrote:

mrguppy wrote:

last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc

I heard that people have had problems there so I looked for a sign but did not see one.

No problems today. The nice old lady who was handing out sales flyers saw it, the guys behind the gun counter saw it and the check out clerk saw it. No comments from anybody.

the lady waited till i had checked out and was about to leave before see asked me was nice about it though.

So this store that sells guns and open carry holsters waited until you had made your purchases and demonstrated that you were a responsible gun user before asking you to put a trigger lock on your openly carried firearm?

Do they even make an open carry holster that accommodates a trigger lock?

Actually I think we have a new kind of open carry. Yes we have had IWB (Inside the Waistband) OWB outside the waistband, Mexican Carry, shoulder holster and ankle holster. .......... Now we have a new one - the trigger locked open carry. I recommend that we give the instigator of this new type of open carry full credit and forever refer to trigger lock mandated open carry as Bass Pro Shop (BPS) Open Carry!!!

:lol: bps:lol:
but yeah the lady pulled me over just as i paid a nice bit to them to tell me that, next time i m goin to just oc and see if they say anything.

You Can Open Carry in Bass Pro Shop, I was asked to put a trigger lock on my weapon and i complied. After talking with the gun guys there, and further assured me that it was alright, i went up front and told the guy to take the gun lock off, he asked the store manager and the lock was removed and weapon reholstered. But while i was there a good point was brought up. If you remove your firearm from it's holster, even to comply with a stores "so called rules" even though it's not posted, you are technically brandishing your firearm, and that is illegal. I will refuse from now on, and i advise the same from everyone else. If it's not posted do not remove your weapon.

 

[Bullbuster]

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Thundar wrote:

Bullbuster, if you are stationed at Naval Station Norfolk the Camp Allen Weapons Range is a great deal. Ammo is cheap, range time is cheap and the facilities are first rate.

I go there often as I live in base housing at the Joint Forces Staff College. Plus I take my 7 year old and 4 year old with me to shoot the 10/22.



Ok I been looking around the VA boards and can't find the topic that list the dinner GT's. Where is it located?

 

[DocDaddy]

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S&W 910S wrote:

You Can Open Carry in Bass Pro Shop, I was asked to put a trigger lock on my weapon and i complied. After talking with the gun guys there, and further assured me that it was alright, i went up front and told the guy to take the gun lock off, he asked the store manager and the lock was removed and weapon reholstered. But while i was there a good point was brought up. If you remove your firearm from it's holster, even to comply with a stores "so called rules" even though it's not posted, you are technically brandishing your firearm, and that is illegal. I will refuse from now on, and i advise the same from everyone else. If it's not posted do not remove your weapon.

Correct meANYONEif I ammistaken, but Virginia Code § 18.2-282states...
"§ 18.2-282. Pointing, holding, or brandishing firearm, air or gas operated weapon or object similar in appearance; penalty.

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured."

Merriam-Webster defines brandish as... (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brandish) 1 :to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly 2 :to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner

If you are taking it out of the holster to put a lock on/off the firearm making it "Bass Pro Shop (BPS) Open Carry", that is not brandishing, for you are not shaking/waving firearm or doing so in an agressive manner.

 

[S&W 910S]

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You have to take into account that the law states that if someone is in fear of being shot or injured. You also have to consider that just because that is the definition of brandishing, doesn't mean that everyone know that. You might still get detained for it. Don't take any chances. Just because you and the guy putting the gun lock on knows whats going on, doesn't mean that the soccer mom, or anybody else that is right there does, and they might feel threatened by the fact that your weapon is out of a safe position, which is in your holster.It is the gun carriers responsibility to know the rules and regulations. That is why i said that it's not against Bass Pro Shops rules, there rules state that any firearm coming into the store that is not in a locked case, must have a gun lock, your holster serves that purpose. Unless they change there rules and post it on the front of the store, you have every right to openly carry it into the store, but do not take it out of it's holster, unless you intend on using it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

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The name of the thread for the get togethers is "Tidewater March OC dinner". Tell Bubba Ron that Dutch Uncle sent ya.

 

[Bullbuster]

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Thanks for the topic name.



In relation to Brandish couldn't standing at the gun counter looking at a gun and pointing it so you can get the feel and look down the barrel. Be construed as brandishing even if it wasn't holstered. Your pointing it a manor that one could assume to be fearful of? Of is the fact that your at a gun counter considered acceptable?

My 2 cents on the BPS gun lock thing. If it was me and I actually chose to put a lock on it. I would have asked to go behind closed doors in an office to do so. That way no one could throw in the red flag for a possible brandishing incident.

 

[Freeflight]

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I wonder how BPS would like getting listed on VCDL's gun Unfriendly list....I think they belong on that list....

 

[Eeyore]

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OC'ed at Carrabba's in Newport News. No comments or problems.

 

[Eeyore]

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Peking International Buffet in Hampton. Lots of families with kids. Despite several trips to the buffet, and a long pause to watch the koi, no reaction from anyone.

 

[vt357]

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I can proudly say that 3 officers in Newport News know the law on open carry. I went to Moe's Southwest Grill on Jefferson near the airport on Saturday to pick up a couple burritos to go. There were 3 officers having lunch. I got my order and had to walk by them on my right (strong arm side) to leave. They saw and continued eating. Three cheers for NN police!

 

[DocDaddy]

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Applebee's on Lynnhaven across from the Mall is good to go!

 

[S&W 910S]

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OC'ed at the walmart in chesapeake, and the target and chesapeake square mall, no issues. Ya know i thought it was funny, cause i read the sign and the doors, and nothing said no firearms so i preceded, then i saw 2 security guards, and neither one of them was carrying. I thought to myself, at least i can protect me and my family, cause obvoiusly these guys can't.

 

[Thundar]

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Is it just me or is anybody else seeing other OCers around Hampton Roads? Maybe it is our long term effort, or maybe it is the Virginia Pilot Series, but I've seen three OCers in the last two days!!!

 

[S&W 910S]

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I haven't seen anybody else, i am not in town that often, but when i do i am usually in town for like the whole day.