Dickson City, PA police conduct Katrina style gun confiscation!

[Tekman]

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So whats up with Mr. Banks? Has he had his sidearm returned yet? I'm not a PA resident but I've been following this topic for some time because the injustice of it makes my blood boil.

 

[DonSmithnotTMD]

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jahwarrior72 wrote:

Aran wrote:

I liken it to right wingers who teach their children to be afraid of/negative toward homosexuals and minorities.

bingo. but don't tell that to the gentryfolk of Dickson City. i alluded to that, and they freaked out in denial. nevermind that i'vebeen called "spic" and "nigger" there more than most places in Lackawanna County.

So I should shave before I go there. i look a little Mexican/Middle eastern, depending on my facial hair status. Might inhibit OCing

 

[tim12232]

Im digging up this thread to see what the final outcome was. Anyone? any links?


Thanks

Tim

 

[carracer]

Wow, has it really been 2 years? Should have been something to post by now. Perhaps we missed another thread while waiting?

 

[Curmudgeon]

Im digging up this thread to see what the final outcome was. Anyone? any links?


Thanks

Tim

Wow, has it really been 2 years? Should have been something to post by now. Perhaps we missed another thread while waiting?

Use this link... http://forum.pafoa.org/open-carry-1...untry-buffet-dickson-city-5-9-a-page-136.html

...and fast-forward to about post #2712 or so. This should give you some of the latest. I believe this is currently unfinished business, and seems to be going nowhere.

 

[Deanimator]

If i were eating in the old country buffet with my chidren and family, i would not want people with guns coming in with their guns out in the open for my children to see.

Why? Will they go blind?

 

[MKEgal]

That guy was a troll who only registered to post his anti-rights ideas in this thread.

There's a fatass cop in Junction City, KS:
"As a LEO, I have the RIGHT to ask you these questions."
To which I replied, "Yes, and I have the right to not say anything. Read your Miranda card."

LOL. That's even better than remaining silent or asking "why am I being detained".

Then, I would have the responsibility as an adult to talk to them truthfully about firearms. It's much better to shelter our children so that they are ignorant of the world around them!

Substitute "sex" for "firearms" & that's the attitude of many "parents".

Is it all about the consititution or are you guys just taking advantage of the fact that you can do this.

Why does it matter? If it's legal, the cops cannot & should not bother the citizens.

... do you feel its right to make people uncomfortable with your presence?
... I just do not understand why you would be so rude to bring innocent bystanders into your "right."

:: sigh ::
Sounds an awful lot like anti-gay/lesbian people who pretend to support civil rights but really don't.
Hey, folks, if you substitute "worship" or "vote" and the sentence upsets you, it should upset you with "bear arms" too.
And yes, if here you substitute "pray over a meal" for "bear arms" I'm sure nobody would support that position.
Rights are rights are rights.

I love having my constitutional rights but why take advantage of them.

If you have some way to know where & when crime will happen, so you can avoid it, please contract to the police wherever you are. It's your duty to protect everyone around you.

haha, i was reallly just wondering. I wasn't trying to make anybody angry. I do understand where you all are coming from.

No, you were trolling & you don't understand.
And from what I've seen you haven't made anyone angry.

But why did you all do this at the same time all of a sudden?

Um, they wanted to exercise their right to associate freely?
They were hungry?

 

[tyc]

Keep Cool .. Take Names ... Get your FACTS right ... then "kick ass"

From what I've read of this incident so far, you could be onto something; i.e., names have already been taken and now some ass needs to be kicked, which is to say, sued, fined and if not jailed and fired, at least fired.

Those actually involved should, if they haven't already, write down everything they can recall of the incident in question; who, what, where, when. Get names, descriptions, identifications, etc. Who said what, when. Who did what and when. Act independantly but at the same time, co-ordinate your actions.

Those involved, if you can use a computer, NOW IS THE TIME to look into initiating a PRO SE civil action against the individual(s) who while "acting under color of law" may well have violated the civil rights of one or more invidividuals. The sooner you act, the better but keep in mind, you do have the right to do nothing and "rest on your latches.".

Keep in mind, as a PRO SE you may NOT file a class action suit. Any and all actions initiated by a PRO SE must be in the name of the plaintiff and no one else. It must be on an individual, person by person, basis ... and I offer, "pile it on!"

I suggest that the PRO SE action(s) should include not only the individual police members involved but their individual superiors as well; Duty Sargeant, Precinct Commander, Chief of Police. Go right "up the line" - and do so not only in their official capacity but "in their individual capacity." as well.

You DO have the right to file a Criminal Complaint with Lackawana's office of the District Attorney. He/she is NOT required to act on those complaints and probably will not - but keep in mind that the District Attorney is not an employee of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Rather he/she is an employee of the County of Lackawanna. The implications of this should be well enough understood; while it may be harder to "get at them" there is no immunity when they mess up. Also consider filing a criminal complaint with the Commonwealth's Office of the Attorney General

As was noted above, from what I've read of this so far, those of you who wish to, you are in a very good position to raise hell with what appears to be several law enforcement incompetents and you are encouraged to do so.

tyc

 

[Curmudgeon]

From what I've read of this incident so far, you could be onto something; i.e., names have already been taken and now some ass needs to be kicked, which is to say, sued, fined and if not jailed and fired, at least fired.

Those actually involved should, if they haven't already, write down everything they can recall of the incident in question; who, what, where, when. Get names, descriptions, identifications, etc. Who said what, when. Who did what and when. Act independantly but at the same time, co-ordinate your actions.

Those involved, if you can use a computer, NOW IS THE TIME to llook into initiating a PRO SE civil action against the individual(s) who while "acting under color of law" may well have violated the civil rights of one or more people. If you want to risk resting on your latches, that's your right but the sooner you act, if you are going to act, the better.

Keep in mind, as a PRO SE you may NOT file a class action, rather any and all actions initiated must be by the plaintiff's. It must be on an individual, person by person, basis ... and I offer, "pile it on!"

I suggest that the PRO SE action(s) should include not only the individual police members themselves who were involved but their superiors. Go right on "up the line" and do so on "in their individual capacity.."

You DO have the right to file a Criminal Complaint with Lackawana's office of the District Attorney. He/she is NOT required to act on those complaints and probably will not - but keep in mind that the District Attorney is not an employee of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Rather he/she is an employee of the County of Lackawanna. The implications of this should be well enough understood; there is no immunity when they mess up.

tyc

LOL... Your suggestions, although very good, are not only a dollar short, but also 3 1/2 years late. :lol:

To bring you up to speed, you may want to peruse this thread, beginning April 11, 2008...

http://forum.pafoa.org/open-carry-1...er-old-country-buffet-dickson-city-5-9-a.html

...it is currently up to 2,745 posts. You could probably start with the first post relating to the arrest, post #146. Happy reading!
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[tyc]

Pro se suggestions

LOL... Your suggestions, although very good, are not only a dollar short, but also 3 1/2 years late. :lol:
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"... although very good, " glad you agree but as for being ".. a dollar short"? How so?

The pro se advice as offered is still valid and worth any non-legal trained individual's knowing ... "states" do misbehave, on an almost regular basis.

As for being "... late." gonna have to ask the forum heads to start putting clear and readily identifible dates on these postings. The impression I got was that this was a very recent incident and from what I know of the area, even in this day and age, believable.

tyc

 

[Curmudgeon]

"... although very good, " glad you agree but as for being ".. a dollar short"? How so?

It's a quaint saying, "a day late and a dollar short". The "day late" didn't apply, but I felt like completing the quip. You either didn't get it, or didn't appreciate it. Oh well.

You mad, bro?

The pro se advice as offered is still valid and worth any non-legal trained individual's knowing ... "states" do misbehave, on an almost regular basis.

As I said, "...although very good...". Given the timing it struck me as superfluous.

As for being "... late." gonna have to ask the forum heads to start putting clear and readily identifible dates on these postings. The impression I got was that this was a very recent incident and from what I know of the area, even in this day and age, believable.

tyc

It is my belief that things in that area are quite improved since the initial incident, as a direct result of this and numerous other incidents in the area from 2 and 3 years ago. That said, I completely agree that it could believably happen again today.

The date and time of each and every post are clearly set in the post header immediately above the forum user's name. It couldn't be more clear and readily identifiable, IMHO.

Happy New Year!
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[SP101]

...Are you causing problems again, Mr. P? lol ;-)

 

[Curmudgeon]

...Are you causing problems again, Mr. P? lol ;-)

Just trying to live up to my username.

 

[SP101]

Just trying to live up to my username.

Mission accomplished!!

 

[tyc]

each and every post[/U] are clearly set in the post header immediately above the forum user's name. It couldn't be more clear and readily identifiable, IMHO.

Happy New Year!
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The date I made mention of was that of the original posting ... should have been easy enough even for you to understand.

tyc

 

[SP101]

The date I made mention of was that of the original posting ... should have been easy enough even for you to understand.

tyc