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Verdict is in........NOT GUILTY

Ca Patriot

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I turned on MSNBC for entertainment value

These people are living in an alternate reality. The hatred, racism, and profound ignorance of the people on MSNBC is out of a Twilight Zone episode.

I stopped watching that channel about 4 years ago. There is nothing of any value on it. Just nonsense.
 

djdavis75

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I don't claim to be any sort of expert on this case, but here are my opinions based on what I know:

Both parties should have exercised more restraint and this situation might have been avoided. Trayvon Martin, who was apparently doing nothing wrong, is dead. I think that's an extremely serious and unfortunate outcome that probably could have been avoided.

That said, I think the evidence indicated that George Zimmerman acted in self defense, and I 100% agree with the verdict.

I'm sure most here carry a gun for self defense, which is our right in my opinion. However, I do think that as people who own and carry firearms, we should give serious thought to the circumstances of this incident. Our rights come with a great responsibility.

Just my 2 cents....

David
 

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I look at it from the other perspective.....I can now chase kids through the neighborhood with my gun, trap them in a dark alley and shoot them. After I call 9-11 of course.



You're living in MSNBC's reality. How do I cross over to that dimension? Will I be free to go back and forth between this dimension and yours if you teach me?

Or is my sarcasm detector broken?
 

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I don't claim to be any sort of expert on this case, but here are my opinions based on what I know:

Both parties should have exercised more restraint and this situation might have been avoided. Trayvon Martin, who was apparently doing nothing wrong, is dead. I think that's an extremely serious and unfortunate outcome that probably could have been avoided.

That said, I think the evidence indicated that George Zimmerman acted in self defense, and I 100% agree with the verdict.

I'm sure most here carry a gun for self defense, which is our right in my opinion. However, I do think that as people who own and carry firearms, we should give serious thought to the circumstances of this incident. Our rights come with a great responsibility.

Just my 2 cents....

David

We need open carry in Florida. I'm not saying this situation could have been avoided if we did, but there would be a chance had Zimmerman been doing it. I avoid stupid people, doing stupid things in stupid places, so I'll never have to use a firearm in public. I want to add the deterrent effect of OC to that equation.
 

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Bracing myself for the Zimmerman copycats that could pop up, anywhere at anytime. I believe theres one very closeby. I'm done on this topic, carry on with the celibration. I want no part of it.
 

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We need open carry in Florida. I'm not saying this situation could have been avoided if we did, but there would be a chance had Zimmerman been doing it. I avoid stupid people, doing stupid things in stupid places, so I'll never have to use a firearm in public. I want to add the deterrent effect of OC to that equation.

I agree with you OC does create a deterrent effect. That said, I also think it has both advantages and disadvantages. However, on a dark rainy night, I don't know if it would have made a difference in the Martin/Zimmerman situation. I agree that states should legalize OC though, as it is a viable and reason option for carrying a firearm for self defense.
 
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djdavis75

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Bracing myself for the Zimmerman copycats that could pop up, anywhere at anytime. I believe theres one very closeby. I'm done on this topic, carry on with the celibration. I want no part of it.

I'm not celebrating, we have a 17 year old young man who is dead. That's not grounds for celebration in many people's books. I do however think that the justice system worked, and the jury came to the right verdict based on the evidence.
 

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Hmmm...

http://www.naacp.org/press/entry/na...al-of-george-zimmerman-in-the-killing-of-tray

NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous:

“We are outraged and heartbroken over today’s verdict,” said Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP. “We stand with Trayvon’s family and we are called to act. We will pursue civil rights charges with the Department of Justice, we will continue to fight for the removal of Stand Your Ground laws in every state, and we will not rest until racial profiling in all its forms is outlawed.”
 

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Hmmm...

http://www.naacp.org/press/entry/na...al-of-george-zimmerman-in-the-killing-of-tray

NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous:

“We are outraged and heartbroken over today’s verdict,” said Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP. “We stand with Trayvon’s family and we are called to act. We will pursue civil rights charges with the Department of Justice, we will continue to fight for the removal of Stand Your Ground laws in every state, and we will not rest until racial profiling in all its forms is outlawed.”

:rolleyes:

That guy is a race-baiter.
 

ScottFree

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I don't claim to be any sort of expert on this case, but here are my opinions based on what I know:

Both parties should have exercised more restraint and this situation might have been avoided. Trayvon Martin, who was apparently doing nothing wrong, is dead. I think that's an extremely serious and unfortunate outcome that probably could have been avoided.

That said, I think the evidence indicated that George Zimmerman acted in self defense, and I 100% agree with the verdict.


David

GZ acted in self defense AND TM did nothing wrong? Aren't those conflicting statements?
 

backenj

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ABC is playing it like a tragedy.

Laughable.

CBS and NBC are portraying this as a technical verdict, not that Z is innocent, but just found not guilty. The kept talking up how the defense was asking for reasonable doubt. The closing I heard asked for an "innocent" verdict, knowing that it was not possible and that they would have to settle for "not guilty."

Pathetic.

I said I don't believe you are telling the truth, not that you are a liar.:banghead:
 

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by next week no one will be talking about this case and blacks will be back to killing blacks at high levels.....with low outrage.
 

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I believe Mr.Zimmerman if he choices to do so, would have an excellent civil case against the state prosecutors,the AG etc for "Malicious Prosecution".

The state attorney's office clearly had no case, however prosecutors decided to willful prosecute an innocent law abiding citizen,The state attorney's office caved in from pressure from civil rights groups and even the president himself when he declared, " If I had a Son, he would of looked like Trevon Martin" so the office of the president also played a part in this case, a case that simply could never reach to the criminal level the prosecutors were attempting to reach, Hence I feel this is a clear case of " Malicious Prosecution".

When Mr.Zimmerman gets his head clear and starts to recollect his life, I hope he sits down with some sharp civil law attorney's and considers filing a " Malicious Prosecution " complaint against the prosecutors who tried to deprive him of life,liberty and property. Prosecutors that knew fair well that they had no hard evidence to get a conviction on 2nd degree murder, prosecutors that were rolling the dice and hoping for a manslaughter conviction. Prosecutors that will even in defeat, go on to be successful with writing books and charging fees to give lectures at law schools and maybe even a movie deal. While Mr.Zimmerman and his family will most likely need to disappear into seclusion and hire security for there protection and possibly could be sued by Mr.Martins parents in a civil litigation. All this because prosecutors caved in to civil rights groups and media outlets and politicians to move forward with a weak case that had no legal chance for a conviction. Bring this weak case is clearly a perfect example of " Malicious Prosecution".

Just my .02
Best regards.
CCJ
 
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djdavis75

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GZ acted in self defense AND TM did nothing wrong? Aren't those conflicting statements?

I meant evidence didn't support that Trayvon Martin was doing anything illegal prior to the altercation with Zimmerman. The evidence would seem to indicate he assaulted Zimmerman when they came in contact with each other, and Zimmerman acted in self defense against the assault by Trayvon Martin. But I wasn't there, just my impressions based on the evidence I saw.
 

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NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous said:
...we will continue to fight for the removal of Stand Your Ground laws in every state...”

Remind me again how SYG was used in this case.

Oh wait, IT WASN'T.

This guy just proves that when an idiot cop shoots his mouth off, people fall all over themselves believing it and perpetuating it.
 
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