BROKENSPROKET
Regular Member
I understand what you are meaning, however, let's just run a few scenarios. Let's say I am out shopping and plan on stopping at 5 stores in 5 LEO jurisdictions. 1st LEO stops me and it's not a big deal, just 5 minutes, he's nice enough and I'm on my way. I finish my shopping and got to the next store. Same thing, and the next, same thing.
By the end of the day I've been stopped 5 times, run my ID 5 times, wasted 25 minutes and I'm a little irritated. And, while I have no proof of this, I would bet there is some database somewhere that keeps track of who and when my ID was checked.
Let's also assume 'shall issue' passes (yuck!). I am now concealing and wear my WCI -shirt. Do you the support the LEO stopping and asking for my permit because he assumes I am carrying?
Let's get back to the present. I plan on going to Chocolate Fest today and OC. If I run into the same LEO's and ask if I am being detained, they might assume I have something to hide since the last guy they asked gave it up so easily. Still no RAS but you could make it harder on everyone else.
Please, I support your right to do as you wish but I would ask that you give it just a tiny bit more thought about the long term ramifications.
Your hypothetical is quite a strecth of the imagination. Have your ever been asked for ID more than once a day? A week? A month? A year?
Here is the long term ramifications that I have thought quite abit about, and I have expressed them on this forum. The more common the Open Carrry becomes and we refuse ID and take it to court an win, the more LEO will back off for fear of being sued, the more confident convicted felons will be that they will not be asked for ID, the more convicted felons will Open Carry. Although thats a hypothetical, to me it's logaical.
I would love it if LEO's would ask for ID, making is clear that they have no legal rigth to demand ID, making it consensual and every lawabiding citizen would comply.
If they demand ID without RAS, we need to hold the line and send a message to LEO that they cannot demand, that they have to ask.
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