Norfolk, VA: Danladi Moore prevails in trumped up "tresspass for open carrying&amp

[Mike]

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Sonora Rebel wrote:

I'm wondering how fresh the tape/paint was? Whatever... it's not by accident.

"Waterside Associates, whose partners include the Norfolk
Redevelopment and Housing Authority, said NRHA assistant executive
director John Kownack. Its policy prohibits weapons, yet weapons are
not included on a list of prohibitions posted at Waterside’s entrances,
he added."

Waterside Associates may be doin' a pre-emptive CYA as suite protection? NRHA's supposed 'policy' is on shaky legal ground... Prob'ly illegal now that the area has been deemed public property.:uhoh:

Housing Authority? Didn't the NRA just win a case against a housing authority in San Francisco which was trying to ban guns?

 

[wrightme]

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Mike wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

I'm wondering how fresh the tape/paint was? Whatever... it's not by accident.

"Waterside Associates, whose partners include the Norfolk
Redevelopment and Housing Authority, said NRHA assistant executive
director John Kownack. Its policy prohibits weapons, yet weapons are
not included on a list of prohibitions posted at Waterside’s entrances,
he added."

Waterside Associates may be doin' a pre-emptive CYA as suite protection? NRHA's supposed 'policy' is on shaky legal ground... Prob'ly illegal now that the area has been deemed public property.:uhoh:

Housing Authority? Didn't the NRA just win a case against a housing authority in San Francisco which was trying to ban guns?

Yep.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=4305

 

[old dog]

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choking with laughter here. hope they pay through the nosel

 

[Kevin Jensen]

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Fantastic job, Dan! :monkey

You sir, are a Great American! :celebrate

 

[Tex]

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Hey and if they don't learn this time, the third time's a charm. You could make this a part profession: Danladi Moore, Citizen, Patriot, Gun Owner, Available for weddings, barmitzvas, parties, $10,000.
Hey without stepping on toes, do you think I could get in on a little of that?
Seriously, good luck, God bless and keep up the good fight.

 

[no carry permit ?]

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Mike wrote:

The police are not wandering prison wardens set loose on society to enforce private rules or good ideas as they see fit.

Brilliant analysis, unfortunately you will need to dumb it down so cops can understand it.

1) You are a law enforcement officer NOT the law.

or
2) Look you Nazi bastard......

 

[no carry permit ?]

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SGT Jensen wrote:

Fantastic job, Dan! :monkey

You sir, are a Great American! :celebrate

and quickly becoming an American folk hero courtesy of the City of Norfolk.

 

[AbNo]

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no carry permit ? wrote:

Mike wrote:

The police are not wandering prison wardens set loose on society to enforce private rules or good ideas as they see fit.

Brilliant analysis, unfortunately you will need to dumb it down so cops can understand it.

1) You are a law enforcement officer NOT the law.

or
2) Look you Nazi bastard......

Woah, calm down there, NCP. Remember, this is a Norfolk problem.

There are city officials with just as much (if not more) blame.

 

[Mike]

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AbNo wrote:

no carry permit ? wrote:

Mike wrote:

The police are not wandering prison wardens set loose on society to enforce private rules or good ideas as they see fit.

Brilliant analysis, unfortunately you will need to dumb it down so cops can understand it.

1) You are a law enforcement officer NOT the law.

or
2) Look you Nazi bastard......

Woah, calm down there, NCP. Remember, this is a Norfolk problem.

There are city officials with just as much (if not more) blame.

Yeah, I was not making an anti- LEO comment - but rather a comment on Norfolk City polices as to how to deploy police in gross misuse of the City's police powers - this is what isclearly behind what happened to Dan.

This does not happen in Fairfax County, not even when open carry was "new" - trust me, I sat at that table at Champps in 2004, and not only did the Fairfax County police not even interupt my meal, they called a 2d magistrate when the first magistrate got the law wrong; and even the anti-gun County Supervisors in Fairfax County have refused to push any policy of breaking preemption - in fact, after full strength preemption passed in 2004, Fairfax County repealed their conflicting ordinances.

The City leaders in Norfolk and nearby cities just don't get it!

 

[DHCruiser]

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Congratulations Dan. I hope you get a nice fat check for all the stress, mental anguish and violation of your rights by the City of Norfolk.

 

[ConditionThree]

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Congratulations Dan. Im very pleased to hear you were vindicated in court. Thank you for standing watch over liberty.

 

[DanM]

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Dan, you inspire us here in Michigan as well, with your strength and your commitment to exercising your fundamental rights.

Wishing you much success, if you decide to pursuethefurther civil grievances against the city which they so blatantly brought upon themselves.

 

[Virginiaplanter]

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Let's set the distinction:

A Sheriff is a Constitutional officer elected by the people. Va. Const. Art. VII, § 4. In England the country was divided up into shires and hence the name Staffordshire (Stafford County), Yorkshire etc. The shire which we know as a county was used as a means to enroll those able-bodied men into the militia (to repel against invasions and insurrections). The head officer of the shire was a lieutenant colonel. The officers of the court of the shire (Used to enforce the writs of the court and to keep his majesty's peace ) were called the Shirereive which later took the name Sheriff.


The police on the other hand are unelected mercenaries historically hired by the Executive branch to enforce their political will. See District of Columbia v. Heller, "That history showed that the way tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able-bodied men was not by banning the militia but simply by taking away the people’s arms, enabling a select militia or standing army to suppress political opponents."

The City of Norfolk detests the natural right of its citizens to keep and bear arms so they use the Police to suppress their "political opponents."

Have you ever noticed that some counties in Virginia don't have police forces only sheriffs? That Norfolk was a loyalist town during the Revolution and was used a base of operations by Royal Governor Lord Dunmore to try to get back his office after fleeing to a Man o' War in 1775 after getting kicked out by Patrick Henry. And it is no coincidence that the first police force created in Virginia in 1797 was by the city of Norfolk.

 

[darthmord]

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Virginiaplanter wrote:

Let's set the distinction:

A Sheriff is a Constitutional officer elected by the people. Va. Const. Art. VII, § 4. In England the country was divided up into shires and hence the name Staffordshire (Stafford County), Yorkshire etc. The shire which we know as a county was used as a means to enroll those able-bodied men into the militia (to repel against invasions and insurrections). The head officer of the shire was a lieutenant colonel. The officers of the court of the shire (Used to enforce the writs of the court and to keep his majesty's peace ) were called the Shirereive which later took the name Sheriff.


The police on the other hand are unelected mercenaries historically hired by the Executive branch to enforce their political will. See District of Columbia v. Heller, "That history showed that the way tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able-bodied men was not by banning the militia but simply by taking away the people’s arms, enabling a select militia or standing army to suppress political opponents."

The City of Norfolk detests the natural right of its citizens to keep and bear arms so they use the Police to suppress their "political opponents."

Have you ever noticed that some counties in Virginia don't have police forces only sheriffs? That Norfolk was a loyalist town during the Revolution and was used a base of operations by Royal Governor Lord Dunmore to try to get back his office after fleeing to a Man o' War in 1775 after getting kicked out by Patrick Henry. And it is no coincidence that the first police force created in Virginia in 1797 was by the city of Norfolk.

Interesting bit of history there. Thanks for the lesson. I'm native to Ohio so my VA history is just on the far sidebetween rusty and decrepit.

 

[MI-copperhead]

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The city prosecutor needs to be un-elected :X

 

[T Dubya]

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Let's lobby Colt to see if they will make some commemorative 1911's to mark the occasion.

The "Commemorative Danladi Freedom Carrier".:quirky

 

[paramedic70002]

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In honor of Dan's tenacity in continuing this campaign under threat of police harassment and the possibility of personal harm, I suggest we take a cue from the civil rights movement and proclaim him to be a "Freedom Carrier."

He carries the banner of freedom by carrying a gun.

God bless you, Sir!

 

[Sonora Rebel]

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Rosa Parks only took a bus seat... Where's the NAACP/ACLU 'n the rest of the civil rights advocates on this? Strangely silent... on an actual 'RIGHT' not open to interpretation. 'Shall not be infringed! Where are they? Where?

 

[Gordie]

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Sonora Rebel wrote:

Rosa Parks only took a bus seat... Where's the NAACP/ACLU 'n the rest of the civil rights advocates on this? Strangely silent... on an actual 'RIGHT' not open to interpretation. 'Shall not be infringed! Where are they? Where?

TheNv. chapter of the ACLU actually made a press release in favor of the 2A.

It sure ruffled some feathers on the national level.:celebrate

 

[wylde007]

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no carry permit ? wrote:

2) Look you Nazi bastard...

Now, now. They're not ALL jack-booted Brown Shirt thugs. Not yet, anyway.

We can look forward to that in the conscripted Civilian Defense Force that the anointed one has proposed to be as "well-trained and better equipped" than the existing "all volunteer" federal military.

Sic Semper Tyrannis
Deo Vindice

[line]The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
And the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid.
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