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Norfolk, VA: Danladi Moore prevails in trumped up "tresspass for open carrying&amp

Sheriff

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Sproggy wrote:
Ivemade awareappropriate people within my department that ive been posting here, as well as the contents of my posts( I have a hard copy). As much as I hate to burst your bubble Sheriff, Ive violated no SOP's. I am a citizen who has a right to his opinion just like all of you. We have officers who write in to the newspaper, and speak out on departmental subjects on news radio all the time. It is everyones right, including a police officers, to have and share his own opinion. Im only in violation If I speak to an indentified memberof the news media and disclose facts that could be damaging to the department AFTER being instructed not to do so. And even then, its handled on a case by case basis.Ive not done either.....and anyideas touse my posts as an example of the departments character would be laughed at bya legitimate attorney. Notice I used the word Legitimate. Its dawned on me after reading other discussions on this board, as well as speaking to attorneys and other LEO's(from numerous jurisdictions) that legitimacy is something in short supply here. I seriously doubt that there are any legitimate attorneys who post here, and certainly not any who would waste their timeon this discussion. Just like im fairly certain that there is only ONE legitimate LEO who has posted here, and that would be me. I dont need to explain what im referring to Sheriff, as Im positive you already know(as dorat and sonora). My editing of my previous posts was apparentlyunnecessary, but will remain permanent so as to remind you of the obvious. I will leave you with this....

The lack of common sense and decency here is well known throughoutLEO circles. It is no doubt the attitude that some of you have that gets you into trouble with the law. There are alot of keyboard commando's and internet experts who post here, but not many legitimate professionals. The lack of tact and substance, as well as extremismdisplayed by some here most definitely hinders your cause. At one point I considered it to be a causeI supported. ButI cannot be supportive of a group that allows some of its members to conduct themsleves the way Ive seen here. You will undoubtedly continue attemptingto find ways to entertain yourselves at my expense, and that is fine.It is a prime example of the characterof this forum. Enjoy


OK, feel free to jump right back into the conversation with both feet. :D

I think the appropriate people within your department should jump right in too. The more the merrier. :celebrate
 

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Sproggy wrote:
...im fairly certain that there is only ONE legitimate LEO who has posted here...

No, we had another one. Called himself nitrovic.

He's on a cop site now discussing how he wanted to sue everybody here and be rich.

Any yet cops claim lawsuits against them are about nothing except the plaintiff wanting money and being rich."Pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind now that our former cop poster wants to sue people on Open Carry and be rich. :lol:

See link....

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112575



EDIT: typo on nitrovic
 

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Sproggy wrote:
As much as I hate to burst your bubble Sheriff, Ive violated no SOP's. I am a citizen who has a right to his opinion just like all of you.
Really? That's not the vibe I got from your posts. In fact, that's not the impression most of us got from your posts.

We have officers who write in to the newspaper, and speak out on departmental subjects on news radio all the time. It is everyones right, including a police officers, to have and share his own opinion.

Yes it is. It is their right to provide their own opinion, just like when I was in the Air Force.

It's also your responsibility, as it was mine, to not include my uniform affiliation with my opinion, as that badge or those stripes combined with your bad attitude paint ALL those that wear that uniform with that brush.

I'm only in violation If I speak to an indentified memberof the news media and disclose facts that could be damaging to the department AFTER being instructed not to do so. And even then, its handled on a case by case basis.

I'm pretty sure that your department has catch-all policies against disgracing the uniform. The path you are on is rubbing you up against that reg PDQ.

Tell you what, would you mind if some or a few of us printed/emailed copies of these posts you've made to say, the Norfolk city council, a couple of police chiefs, or our elected representatives?

More particularly, would you mind if any of us doing this requested an explanation for your behavior as an NPD officer?

I've not done either.....and anyideas touse my posts as an example of the departments character would be laughed at bya legitimate attorney. Notice I used the word Legitimate.

I'm thinking of a word. It starts with "s" and ends in "trawman". Can you guess what it is?

It's dawned on me after reading other discussions on this board, as well as speaking to attorneys and other LEO's(from numerous jurisdictions) that legitimacy is something in short supply here.

Only since you showed up, Sproggy-kins. :)

I seriously doubt that there are any legitimate attorneys who post here, and certainly not any who would waste their timeon this discussion.

Oh, be careful there. You might be surprised. ;)

Just like im fairly certain that there is only ONE legitimate LEO who has posted here, and that would be me.

Given your spelling, grammar, and attitude, I have no doubt that you are one of the Norfolk PD's more tacticool police officers. Thank you for perpetuating that stereotype. I'm sure your fellow badge-wearers appreciate it.

I will leave you with this....

Leave?:celebrate

The lack of common sense and decency here is well known throughoutLEO circles.

Sweet googly-moogly! Ad hominem attack! Truly sir, you are a far better internet warrior than I. *bow*

It is no doubt the attitude that some of you have that gets you into trouble with the law.
Oh yeah! I mean, there was this one time I was talking down the street, and this police sergeant swerves his issued Ford Explorer to block the road, almost side-swiping two parked cars, as well as almost jumping the curb to start hassling me.

The best part was when he was requested, by car number, to investigate a break-in six blocks away. I knew I was having trouble with the law when he turned his radio off after I asked "Um, isn't that YOUR car number? Shouldn't you answer that?".

I knew I was in real trouble when he finally drove off in a huff after blocking both lanes of traffic in a residential neighborhood for twenty minutes.


There are alot of keyboard commando's

Keyboard commando's what? His dog? His house?

(Ad hominem count: 2)

and internet experts who post here, but not many legitimate professionals.

Apparently, being an electronic technician in several different fields for six years is not a legitimate profession. Where did I go wrong? :(

(AH: 3)

The lack of tact and substance,

Only from people that come here to pick a fight, and a couple of wild dogs that get shouted down by the good people here. Speaking of which...

(AH: 4)

as well as extremismdisplayed by some here

Come to think of it, the ones that were a problem have either gotten their acts together, or left for greener complaining pastures.

(AH:5)

most definitely hinders your cause.

And in your own words, what would that be, mister internet expert? ;)


At one point I considered it to be a causeI supported.

Well, "hey, stop stepping on my rights" is a cause anyone would expect most well-educated people to get behind, so kudos.

ButI cannot be supportive of a group that allows some of its members to conduct themsleves the way Ive seen here.

Wait, I thought you were a member of the Norfolk PD? You know, a group of people that is so busy creating a pattern of harassment directed at law-abiding citizens that it does not have time to actually stop crime?

Well, maybe it's just you don't have a problem with pestering someone with made-up charges, or leaving a woman and three small children stranded in downtown Norfolk after dark?

You will undoubtedly continue attemptingto find ways to entertain yourselves at my expense, and that is fine.

Sproggy baby, I hate to break your heart, but if/when you leave, we're probably going to forget about you like a long list of other trolls that have come, said nothing new, and left.

Well, I take that back. You ARE different. You actually HAVE said different things than the others that have come here to pick a fight. Of course, you did it by dragging your badge through the mud on the way in, but I will certainly give you credit for new content.

Monkey dance for Scroggy!:monkey

I am a prime example of the characterof some of my fellow NPD officers. Enjoy

I'm sorry, I can only let spelling and grammatical errors go on for so long. I have eddited your above post to what I believe you meant to say, based on your past actions, comments, and general attitude.
 

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SproggySproggy wrote:
Ivemade awareappropriate people within my departmenivehat ive been posting here, as well as the contents of my posts( I have a hard copy). As much as I hate to burst your bubble Sheriff, Ive violaSOP'so SOP's. I am a citizen who has a right to his opinion just like all of you. We have officers who write in to the newspaper, and speak out on departmental subjects on news radio all the time.everyoneseveryones right, including a police officers, to have and share his own Iminion. Im only in violation If I speindentifiedindentifiedasis.Ive not done either.....and anyideas touse my posts as an example of the departments character would be laughed at bya legitimate attorney. Notice I used the word Legitimate. Its dawned on me after reading other discussions on this board, as well as speaking to attorneys and other LEO's(from numerous jurisdictions) that legitimacy is something in short supply here. I seriously doubt that there are any legitimate attorneys who post here,LEO'scertainly not any who would waste their timeon this discussion. Just like im fairly certain that there is only ONE legitimate LEO who has posted here, and that would be me. I dont need to explain what im referring to Sheriff, as Im imsitive you already know(as dorat and sonora). My editing of my previous posts was apparentlyunnecdontry, but will remain peimanent so as to remind you Im the obvious. I will leave you with this.sonora

The lack of common sense and decency here is well known throughoutLEO circles. It is no doubt the attitude that some of you have that gets you into trouble with the law. There are alot of keyboard commando's and internet experts who post here, but not many legitimate professionals. The lack of tact and substance, as well as extremismalotplayed by some here most definternethinders your cause. At one point I considered it to be a causeI supported. ButI cannot be supportive of a group that allows some of its members to conduct themsleves the way Ive seen here. You will undoubtedly continue attemptingto find ways to entertain yourselves at my expense, and that is fine.It is a prthemslevese of the characterof this forum. Enjoy
Sounds like bullshit to me. This kid is a punk that will be getting himself sued soon enough.
 

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Here's a question...

Let's, for the sake of argument, say Scroggy is not an NPD officer. Remember, this is just a what-if situation.

Now, at this point, he has come on here and stated, several times, that he is indeed and officer of the law.

Again presuming that Scroggy is also in the state of Virginia, and someone were to provide identifying information on Scroggy to the appropriate authorities, what would the penalty be under Virginia law?

Remember, this is all purely speculative. :)
 

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The really sad part is that I've been nothing but polite with him even though I disagreed with him.

Heck, I even invited him to join us on last Friday to get to meet some of us in person as face to face is much better at conveyingcommunications than just plain text on a screen since you lose out on all the non-verbal cues.

But the holier-than-thou attitude he's shown this last page really needs to lessen. If he'd take a step back and think about it, he's really no better or worse than any of us here. He'd also realize that we are all equal here. We are a bunch of Pro-Rights advocates.

If he wishes to oppose that, good for him. Why? He's exercising his rights. That's a good thing. Besides, if we don't adapt to the ever changing legal landscape, we will die. Having someone prodive a dissenting view gives us another avenue to prepare with/against.

It's sad though. Whether or not he's a member of the Norfolk Police Department, he's showing himself to be a troll and an agry one at that. I hope it's just a passing failure of judgement on his part as he could have quite a bit to contribute here. This becomes especially true if he is part of the NPD and carries some of what he learns here to make his fellow officers better.

And with that, I'm off to bed for the night.
 
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