smellslikemichigan
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Did the reply suit you,is the point of the thread,which was moved because someone whined?
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Did the reply suit you,is the point of the thread,which was moved because someone whined?
I stopped scanning after a few pages. Where does the Bible teach that WE should kill all non-believers? I see a lot of God wreaking judgment. I see a lot of people doing things that God did not tell them to do. I don't see God issuing a general instruction to kill folks who believe differently. (I figure He has a plan for those who do not believe, and will leave that matter in His hands, where His Bible tells us judgment belongs.)
I have seen a lot of quotes from the Koran where Muslims are instructed to kill non-believers.
That's the big difference I see between the two religions, Christianity and Islam. Christianity teaches that judgment is 100% God's purview. Islam instructs its followers to carry out judgment by murder. Some of them follow that instruction, resulting in the deaths of hundreds or thousands at a time in individual attacks.
Ha! Christianity and Islam are two sides of the same twisted coin.I stopped scanning after a few pages. Where does the Bible teach that WE should kill all non-believers? I see a lot of God wreaking judgment. I see a lot of people doing things that God did not tell them to do. I don't see God issuing a general instruction to kill folks who believe differently. (I figure He has a plan for those who do not believe, and will leave that matter in His hands, where His Bible tells us judgment belongs.)
I have seen a lot of quotes from the Koran where Muslims are instructed to kill non-believers.
That's the big difference I see between the two religions, Christianity and Islam. Christianity teaches that judgment is 100% God's purview. Islam instructs its followers to carry out judgment by murder. Some of them follow that instruction, resulting in the deaths of hundreds or thousands at a time in individual attacks.
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Deut 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
This particular verse was demanding the execution of all witches(any rebellious individual).Exodus 22:18 said:Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Obviously you need to GO BACK AND READ THE PREVIOUS THREADS on the mosque.I do have an issue with any religion who calls for me to be killed because I am not of their religion and before someone tries to say it isn't true you might get a copy of the Koran as we call it and read it. If they want me to live under their religious edicts (Sharia Law) then yes I have a huge problem with it. This is not Saudi Arabia this is the USA PERIOD! When in ROME.....
Otherwise I have no issue with people of a different faith. respect my rights and I respect yours, it's s simple concept.
I tire of the religious apologies from those who apologize for me or on my behalf to the people who loudly proclaim I should be murdered because I am an infidel. I have heard the Muslim clerics say this with my own ears and until I hear otherwise from the same mouths then I stand on my position.
I agree.It amazes me to no end when I see people who love this country and what it stands for so much that, when confronted with a threat to the country (whether real or perceived), they actually fight to undermine what makes this country so great in an attempt to defeat the threat.
IF the property was purchased completely free of government funding, by non-government officials, and those purchasers are legal Americans, exercising their right to freedom of religion, then the issue of the Mosque is moot. People are fully entitled to their opinion of whether it ought to be built there ( I personally find it extremely offensive ), but legally and Constitutionally it is sound. The undermining would be fighting the building of the Mosque by twisting or trying to change the principles our country was founded on in order to see their opinion enforced.Please give an example of this undermining.
+1Added "fact" template. ([citation needed])
In this country, murder is illegal, therefore if they decide to put into practice what they "preach", they would suffer legal consequences. However, as a friend of mine says, if they are allowed to populate and spread their beliefs, we could be in a world of hurt.Read the PEW poll results then come back whining about a citation.
Are you disputing the Qua'ran calls for the murder of Jews, or infidels (non believers)? Nice try it is common knowledge and repeated every day from ever single Muslim Cleric the Jews and Christians need to be killed. You might want to wake up and get up to speed with world events.
I love it!You were referencing a poll. I thought you might have some hard fact reference to back up the fact you presented. Silly my for not believing YOUR words for being Gospel
Thank you for setting me on the path if righteousness, great teacher.
I've considered putting him on ignore as well, but he's not always a complete jerk, and often has brutally honest, solid points that need to be said.Now you know why he is the only poster on this forum I have put on my ignore list.
Could it be that he also put you on ignore? You're not the only one with that option, you know. In my last address to you, I tried to treat you with respect, and point out a tendency you have for taking things very personally, and your resultant tendency to stand with a stick in the hornets nest. Ironically your response proved my point. You can lead a horse to water...actually it was I that put him on ignore. I love how he takes credit for things others did. he was still whining about my posts long after I placed him on ignore and said it in the thread. I tire of those who twist the truth.
+1whenever one holds a unpopular view today racism is the first cry. It holds little effect today as most people have gotten beyond the word and it's misuse.
+1. It has been the posters' responsibility to post citation for what is claimed to be fact.Yes please. A URL is customary.
Very well put, sir.+1
some people say that if we let them build so close to ground zero then "they have won".
i say, if we let it bother us, then they have won. one of the things the terrorists attacked is our freedom of religion. if we suppress muslim freedom of religion, we are proving ourselves no better.
I'd love to live without either ahorrent religious belief having any sort of impact whatsoever on my chosen way of life.
I love the human beings interpretation of what an all powerful and/or supreme cosmic being beyond comprehension "told them to do, or not to do".
I especially love it when they dictate said communications to me, in an effort to make me follow their flying spaghetti monsters words.
I am sure an infinite, all knowing being of incomprehensible power is really mad at me for not erecting something to worship him. I'm sure he is concerned if I elect to work on a Sunday.
Cause, you know...
Omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent beings roll that way...
You know what the beauty of Christianity is? You are free to accept or reject Jesus. I personally resent your implying that I (or any other Christian on this board) has "dictated" a thing to you.
Please note that I am not saying your beliefs are "abhorrent." I will leave that little bit of incivility to you.
What the hell does any of this have to do with OC! Get a grip and grow up! Did anyone read the letters to the editor or you just going to bash eachothers beliefs?If so,go to a beliefs forum!
We often see in others (usually incorrectly) our own failings.
The letter was disappointing. You fell right into their hands with it. What you should have said is that individual OC supporters both support, and protest the building of the Mosque. There is no unified position by OC supporters on the Mosque. I would have added that most OC supporters recognize the constitutional right of the people to build the Mosque.What the hell does any of this have to do with OC! Get a grip and grow up! Did anyone read the letters to the editor or you just going to bash eachothers beliefs?If so,go to a beliefs forum!
This sarted on the OC forum and was transfered to the lounge.The letters were about OCer bashing.Read em!Welcome to the SOCIAL LOUNGE. This is not the OC only forum, and, last I checked, your post was related to the community center called park 51, NOT OC.
I think after the rename, they should have called it the YMMA, similar to the YMCA. Then it would be particularly striking to see people arguing against it.
I mentioned that OCers as part of the majority of americans had a problem with the insensitivity of the issue,not the constitutionality.Did you read my reply "Majority against the mosque",which the editor named?The letter was disappointing. You fell right into their hands with it. What you should have said is that individual OC supporters both support, and protest the building of the Mosque. There is no unified position by OC supporters on the Mosque. I would have added that most OC supporters recognize the constitutional right of the people to build the Mosque.
I mentioned that OCers as part of the majority of americans had a problem with the insensitivity of the issue,not the constitutionality...