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Do Americans actually think..

frommycolddeadhands

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Knob Noster, MO
if someone were to pcs to the base the base armory would have to store the weapons until the member got the paperwork signed by his commander. Should someone be denied the ability to store their weapons on base while residing on base I would bet they could get it ruled as an unlawful order as it is unduly restricting your freedoms and the person issuing the order doesn't have the authority to do so (though it would likely be a long fight similar to the recent fight about commanders who required off base people to register their guns on base. Congress stepped in and said that was unlawful for commanders to do). Yes there are gun buster signs at the gates, but they can't stop residents of the base from bringing their lawfully owned weapons onto it.

When I pcsed to my current base I had the cops called on me by a moron when I was asking questions about the gun policy (she told the cops I had a gun illegally on base). It's DOD policy that governs it all and even a lot of cops don't fully know it, so I wouldn't be surprised if your base had an improper policy in effect, but from what the cops told me the base has to allow or supply storage of firearms for those that live on the base (including those that are in the base hotel due to a pcs, though these don't require the paperwork to be signed by the commander, only permanently stored weapons require the commander's signature).
I think this varies by branch of service, and housing situation. I'm Active Duty Air Force, I live in base housing, and my firearms live with me. The dormitories prohibit weapons, so Airmen who live in the dorms gotta check their guns at the armory, but folks who live in regular old housing can store their own. Our BX even has a gun counter where you can purchase guns (no sales tax, bonus!)

As far as a permit to carry guns on base, there is no such thing as far as I know. I can keep the guns in my house however I see fit (loaded or unloaded), however I cannot carry a loaded weapon on base. If I'm going off base somewhere and decide to take my pistol OC or CC I have to unload it, and keep the gun and ammo separate until I'm off base, then pull into a parking lot (usually McDees) and load/holster it. Upon returning to the base I have to unload/separate gun and ammo again prior to passing through the gate.

Pain in the rear, but it gets the job done.
 

hermannr

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Okanogan Highland
Mike the Geek, Canadian firearms laws stink, that is all there is to it. My BIL has the same attitude you do, but then he doesn't know better, he has always lived in Canada. I am an ex-pat Canadian, and I do not know the ins and outs of the east, but I do know BC and Alberta. When I lived in Canada back in the 40's-50's things were better than now, but they were still bad, especially when it comes to handguns. When I tried to get my deceased uncles pistol back from the RCMP (it had been given to them for storage after my uncle died) they just laughed at me.

Canadian firearm laws are not for free people, they are for the "elete and privilaged", Yes, My BIL lives in Canada and owns more pistols than I do, and shoots more than I do, but he can only shoot them at his club, he can only transport them in a locked box, along a certain route to and from his club and house, he has to have two safes, (actually he has 4 safes because of the number of weapons) one for his guns, another for his ammo.

Then, with this last change in the law 1994? it became illegal for him to own a 100 year old Iver Johnson top break .32 cal revolver becasue it had been purchased after a particular date. Even if he had owned it before that date, he could not pass the pistol on to his kids when he died. I know about that one because we were trying to figure out how to legally get that revolver to the US so the RCMP would not confiscate it (with no compensation) That is legalized theft!

Hopefully Harper will deliver on his promise and repeal that last law. Are their firearms in Canada? You bet, lots of them, mostly held by law aiding citizens. Are they safe and secure? No more than Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's.
 
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