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best way to deal with a leo that does not know the laws of oc or cc

SouthernBoy

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I know this doesn't answer your question but I have found not resorting to their level (and I am normally a fairly foul mouthed person) and keeping my calm and not using that language, seems to make them even more frustrated.

Ever heard the mantra, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me"?

If you use vile language in response to an out-of-control, foul-mouthed police officer, all you are doing is lowering yourself to his/her level and further inflaming the situation. Best is to remain polite, calm, and mostly silent.

Keep in mind that such an "officer" is as dangerous as an armed Claymore mine; all he/she needs is the right trigger to explode. And you are on the "Face Toward Enemy" side of that mine.

1) because then you're no better than him
2) you're escalating the situation
3) it frustrates/confuses the bad ones more if you stay calm
4) it impairs communication
5) when the video or audio is published, you look better if you don't

Because, in some states, language that would tend to provoke a disturbance falls under the heading of disorderly conduct and would be actionable. And, it wouldn't take a cop as bad as Harless to twist even softer language than you've given into disorderly conduct. All he has to do is cite or arrest you knowing he's caused you a buncha headaches even if the judge tosses it out.

I save that language for the courtroom (and the holding cell near the courtroom).

Thanks for the answers. Mind you all that I was not intimating that I would do this.... it was only hypothetical. I prefer to try my best to maintain an aura of calm and civility in the face of such behavior. Though I do admit to getting in the face of an Arlington motor cop back in the early 90's. I won, he lost.
 

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Which brings up a question. If a "Daniel Harless" type officer starts using the type of language we have seen in his videos, what would happen if you called him a m-----f----- and a whole bunch of similar vile names? After all, he did it so why can't you?

While this may seem to be a loaded question, there is a reason to ask it.
I have precisely ZERO desire to talk to the police, so it's a moot point for me.

If I'm not free to leave, I've got NOTHING to say.

Of course if I AM free to leave, I have NOTHING to say.

I have no more desire to converse with police than I do with panhandling winos or Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
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