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[SlackwareRobert]

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No, it could have been the cell phone printing, or an unlucky guess.

My wife almost died laughing when I was confronted at a basketball game,
and turned away from him while asking "why am I was printing" while
checking the far side of my hip.
Turned out after he got done choaking on that response, that it was the
haircut made me look leo'ish. Told me that cops get in free, so my
"innocent" question cost me the price of a ticket.

Just a lucky guess on his part had no factual evidence, except my haircut.

 

[marshaul]

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Batman II wrote:

Well, I am a Marine so running isn't in my vocabulary. I am one of the Sheepdogs that watches over the flock from the shadows!

So what do I have to do to opt out of this whole "sheep" "sheepdogs" and "wolves" analogy?

Isn't it enough to be a rattlesnake?

Oh, BTW rattlers > sheepdogs

 

[smellslikemichigan]

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marshaul wrote:

Batman II wrote:

Well, I am a Marine so running isn't in my vocabulary. I am one of the Sheepdogs that watches over the flock from the shadows!

So what do I have to do to opt out of this whole "sheep" "sheepdogs" and "wolves" analogy?

Isn't it enough to be a rattlesnake?

Oh, BTW rattlers > sheepdogs

just stay in SF, we'll understand... we handle things differently in michigan

 

[smellslikemichigan]

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DanM wrote:

HankT wrote:

Batman II wrote:

I was carrying concealed, but someone must have seen the outline.

"Someone must have seen the outline?"

How else would somebody have fingered you? :question:

What does your permit require regarding concealment of a carried gun?

Why did you add the question mark to your quote of his words? He wasn't asking a question about how someone fingered him. He was making a statement as to how he believes he was most likelyfingered. "I was CC'ing but someone saw the outline" versus, say, "I was CC'ing, but I bent over and someonesaw part of the holster" or"I was open carryingand someone saw the handgun". Yes, there are possibilities for how else he could have been fingered. He was telling us likely which possibility it was.

Michigan law nor the Michigan CPL requires concealment of a carried gun. If you don't have a CPL, your only lawful option is tocarry openly. If you have a CPL, you may carry openly,fully concealed, or partially concealed.

HankT wrote:

Batman II wrote:

He said "I WOULD RUN"! I said " I would too, only toward the problem, not away from it".

Batman II wrote:

Well, I am a Marine so running isn't in my vocabulary. I am one of the Sheepdogs that watches over the flock from the shadows!

You sound very, um, enthusiastic....

Some people keep fire extinguishers for putting out their own fires, and some of those folks would run toward a neighbor's house to help them put outa fire. Some people keep a small can of gas in their vehicle in case they run out of gas, and some of those folks would drive over to someone on the side of the road that needs gas and help them out. To me, words/phrases like prepared and like a good samaritan come to mind as appropriate, in those examples and the one of going to the lawful defense of someone else, in place ofenthusiastic:

"You sound very, um, prepared...."

"You sound very, um, like a good samaritan...."

Now, if you mean "enthusiastic about being prepared and being a good samaritan", I would say, "So, what . . . shouldn't everyone be and shouldn't we take note of and comment on a lack of enthusiasm for those?"

i'm with you dan. it's a privilege, honor and responsibility for those with enough ba**ls to accept it

 

[mastiff69]

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[marshaul]

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smellslikemichigan wrote:

marshaul wrote:

Batman II wrote:

Well, I am a Marine so running isn't in my vocabulary. I am one of the Sheepdogs that watches over the flock from the shadows!

So what do I have to do to opt out of this whole "sheep" "sheepdogs" and "wolves" analogy?

Isn't it enough to be a rattlesnake?

Oh, BTW rattlers > sheepdogs

just stay in SF, we'll understand... we handle things differently in michigan

Fortunately, we handle things far better in Virginia (my other home) than you do in Michigan.

 

[smellslikemichigan]

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i can't think of any differences between virginia open carry and michigan open carry... however there are plenty when it comes to CA

 

[marshaul]

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In Virginia we don't need a permit to carry into banks and restaurants. :quirky

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, the above statement is true in California as well.

 

[smellslikemichigan]

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marshaul wrote:

In Virginia we don't need a permit to carry into banks and restaurants. :quirky

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, the above statement is true in California as well.

you don't in michigan either

 

[marshaul]

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Well, perhaps it isn't enforced, but according to the legislature such possession (no permit in a bank, restaurant that serves liquor, etc.) becomes a misdemeanor if you don't have permission of the "owner or an agent of the owner of that entity":

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(nc3qk1zi0yd3u4vdsu3hngmh))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-750-234d

Really, I shouldn't have responded, but I just don't understand what you think my living in San Francisco has to do with anything.

 

[Batman II]

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It doesn't matter what State we live in, there are still those out there wanting to do harm to others. Someone has to stand in the gap as there are not enough police resources to go around. Legislation needs to be changed in some areas I think! Like not allowing law abiding citizens to carry a gun on school property ( doesn't stop a criminal) but maybe someone with a gun could have stopped some of the killing in recent College murders, and school killings, and Mall killings, and the list goes on doesn't it! Most of us are not looking for a shootout, or want to kill someone, but when it comes to the bad guys, I have no sympathy. Just Me!! I guess!

 

[Kimberguy]

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Batman II wrote:

The Mall manager was also there and informed me that he doesn't want firearms carried in "HIS" Mall either.

but the mall's general manager is a SHE.... I have met with her personally in her office.

 

[FatboyCykes]

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Kimberguy wrote:

Batman II wrote:

The Mall manager was also there and informed me that he doesn't want firearms carried in "HIS" Mall either.

but the mall's general manager is a SHE.... I have met with her personally in her office.

Hot!

 

[Batman II]

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Well the guy that showed up gave the impression that he was the "big cheese". He also said he was an ex cop. Which made me wonder why he wouldn't stand up for someone being attacked. I asked him why he wasn't carrying a weapon?I mean someone there should. In some schools we have armed law enforcement officers. Just seems right to me!

D.

 

[HankT]

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SlackwareRobert wrote:

No, it could have been the cell phone printing, or an unlucky guess.

Not likely for either of these two. Were you there? Did he even have a cell phone?

Don't forget that Batman II said:

"I was carrying concealed, but someone must have seen the outline."

I interpret that to mean the outline of his gun.

If Batman II was printing so badly that someone fingered him, well, then his behavior had something to do with starting the hassling he suffered. Might be a way to avoid it in the future. Say, by concealing effectively. Probably some other options too.

 

[Batman II]

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There was no behavior issues. I was leaning against a display waiting for a salesman to finish with another customer so I could ask him some questions about a printer. Maybe I need a smaller profile gun. I have big hands so I have an MP 40 full size witch does make quite a bulge in a shirt. I tried to conceal carry the 50 cal, but the barrel dragged the ground and I couldn't keep my pants up. Okay lets start something different!

 

[DanM]

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HankT wrote:

If Batman II was printing so badly that someone fingered him, well, then his behavior had something to do with starting the hassling he suffered. Might be a way to avoid it in the future. Say, by concealing effectively. Probably some other options too.

Question for all: what ismembership level "State Researcher", and is someone at that level considered supportive anda friendof this site, open-carrying in general, and CC'ers who lawfully do "casual concealed" carry or who inadvertently "print" or expose the gun?

This guy HankT is a "state researcher" but his responses seema bitstrangetoward Batman II and/or robust support for the RKBA:

• HankT implies Batman shares blame for somehassling Batman received, but doesn't explain the rationale for that.
• HankT's position seems to be CC'ers like Batman IIshould "conceal effectively" to avoid hassle, rather than to support Batman II's right not to be hassled in exercising the RKBA in compliance with law.

Trying to figure out this guy HankT and whose side he's on, the sheepdogs' or the sheep.

 

[Venator]

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DanM wrote:

HankT wrote:

If Batman II was printing so badly that someone fingered him, well, then his behavior had something to do with starting the hassling he suffered. Might be a way to avoid it in the future. Say, by concealing effectively. Probably some other options too.

Question for all: what ismembership level "State Researcher", and is someone at that level considered supportive anda friendof this site, open-carrying in general, and CC'ers who lawfully do "casual concealed" carry or who inadvertently "print" or expose the gun?

This guy HankT is a "state researcher" but his responses seema bitstrangetoward Batman II and/or robust support for the RKBA:

• HankT implies Batman shares blame for somehassling Batman received, but doesn't explain the rationale for that.
• HankT's position seems to be CC'ers like Batman IIshould "conceal effectively" to avoid hassle, rather than to support Batman II's right not to be hassled in exercising the RKBA in compliance with law.

Trying to figure out this guy HankT and whose side he's on, the sheepdogs' or the sheep.

HankT has been around a long time and is known tobe an PITA. He likes to bait people and often states contradictory comments for fun. He hasn't been around much lately, but he's back now, one option is to ignore.

 

[HankT]

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DanM wrote:

Trying to figure out this guy HankT and whose side he's on, the sheepdogs' or the sheep.

C'mon, not even one mention of being a Brady spy.

Get with it!

 

[springerdave]

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Hank who?springerdave.