2013 report of LEO who died on the job

[countryclubjoe]

Depends on what the issue is. Would I give a cop a break? You bet. But I also give veterans breaks too. I try to give decent folks a break. Would I try harder to give breaks? Certainly. I'd also they harder to five my mother a break. Would I let an officer get away with murder? No way.

Put it in perspective. What crime an are you talking about? I won't and don't prescribe to any "if your a cop I'll do anything to keep you out of trouble". Check the news. Plenty of cops still get duis and locked up for domestics and accident etc. Etc

Do some officers hold to that blue line more then others? Maybe. But I don't. I'll certainly help a brother officer more then some citizen I've never met. I'd also help one of the guys in my unit I deployed with more. Also help and let get away with a serious violent crime are not the same thing.

Again this is personal opinion and doesn't anyway represent any other Leo anywhere else not any department.

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Hi primus

Feels good to get it out.. LOL

You appear to be a good officer and more important a decent person... I suggest you continue to read the US Constitution and try to never knowingly violate anyone's natural rights or Constitutional rights.. And naturally, get home safe at night to your family and loved ones.

Best regards

CCJ

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

What? Out of the whole paragraph you focus on that one bit?

Ma'am what you fail to realize is giw strict the law is and how many times you break it even by accident. You seen to dislike the ability to cut breaks. So are you suggesting that I ticket every single person I encounter with every infraction I find?

Every time a tire crosses a line.. every time you go through a yellow light every time you forget a blinker every time you speed even by just a mile or two over the limit by accident....

Really? You have no idea how many things I see on a nightly basis and just let it go. A lady didnt use her blinker? Well guess what she has 3 kids in the car and its 10 degress out... not stopping her. A guy goes through a yellow? Well he happens to be 70. Not stopping him in that case.

Why do you not see this as a good thing? This HELPS people.

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Firstly, you display your ignorance about what I know, and secondly, my point is that if it is not necessary to stop everyone for the same offense, then you should not stop anyone for the offense.

You let it slide for a delivery guy; let it slide for everyone else. You already confirmed it is more about cost than safety, so stop doing it and save the tax payers the money and hassle of dealing with you for arbitrary offenses.

And yes, I did point out your strawman. Is that a problem?

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

Hmm, the reason for the band of yellow on some cars, A.K.A. the "Band of Blue." or gimme a break brotha.

There's others. In California in the late 60's and on, officers put a special sticker on personal cars. Officers were told the decal extended a "professional courtesy" -- you didn't cite colleagues for routine traffic violations; you chauffeured them home if they were driving under the influence.

"In a Seattle P-I series this week on police misconduct, reporters Eric Nalder and Lewis Kamb showed that officers use stickers depicting a bear to get breaks most of the public doesn't enjoy. Officers put them on their personal cars or hand them out to significant others, family members or friends.

Driving too fast? Had one brew too many before getting behind the wheel? Got a busted taillight? You could get away with it if an officer sees that you are a member of the bear-sticker brigade, an unofficial club that doesn't advertise."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Cops-can-t-bear-living-like-the-rest-of-us-1246096.php

Several pages of posts on the subject over at one gang site:

http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-69159.html

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Depends on what the issue is. Would I give a cop a break? You bet. But I also give veterans breaks too. I try to give decent folks a break. Would I try harder to give breaks? Certainly. I'd also they harder to five my mother a break. Would I let an officer get away with murder? No way.

Put it in perspective. What crime an are you talking about? I won't and don't prescribe to any "if your a cop I'll do anything to keep you out of trouble". Check the news. Plenty of cops still get duis and locked up for domestics and accident etc. Etc

Do some officers hold to that blue line more then others? Maybe. But I don't. I'll certainly help a brother officer more then some citizen I've never met. I'd also help one of the guys in my unit I deployed with more. Also help and let get away with a serious violent crime are not the same thing.

Again this is personal opinion and doesn't anyway represent any other Leo anywhere else not any department.

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The state sanctioned holier than thou's get the breaks, over the "not decent people".

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

The state sanctioned holier than thou's get the breaks, over the "not decent people".

It does make you wonder how he treats those he determines "worth" stopping...:uhoh:

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

It does make you wonder how he treats those he determines "worth" stopping...:uhoh:

Pinus has declared in other threads "those" people "have no rights". I even recall he said he "owned people" while in his custody, which would make ANY luxury, such as breathing, an act of benevolence on his part, right? We should be grateful for such consideration.

 

[countryclubjoe]

Metal decals affixed to the licence plate or in the wind shield..

Some may read " MEMBER FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, OR ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE STATE PBA...

Also some states issue license plates that read above the number " MEMBER FOP OR MEMBER PBA...

I would think that any active LEO would choice not to go around advertising on their personal vehicles that they are in fact a LEO..
What would be the benefits versus the hassles...

My .02

Best regards

CCJ

 

[Primus]

Hi primus

Feels good to get it out.. LOL

You appear to be a good officer and more important a decent person... I suggest you continue to read the US Constitution and try to never knowingly violate anyone's natural rights or Constitutional rights.. And naturally, get home safe at night to your family and loved ones.

Best regards

CCJ

Ccj thank you I appreciate it.

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[Primus]

Firstly, you display your ignorance about what I know, and secondly, my point is that if it is not necessary to stop everyone for the same offense, then you should not stop anyone for the offense.

You let it slide for a delivery guy; let it slide for everyone else. You already confirmed it is more about cost than safety, so stop doing it and save the tax payers the money and hassle of dealing with you for arbitrary offenses.

And yes, I did point out your strawman. Is that a problem?

I kind of figured that was your point. That if its ok to let ANY person go then every person should be let go all the time. Unfortunately its just not the way it works. That isn't reality. Especially in a place with a lot of people.

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[sudden valley gunner]

I kind of figured that was your point. That if its ok to let ANY person go then every person should be let go all the time. Unfortunately its just not the way it works. That isn't reality. Especially in a place with a lot of people.

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So choose to let cops, veterans and old ladies go?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

It does make you wonder how he treats those he determines "worth" stopping...:uhoh:

+1 His words of that indicate who thinks is normal, rational, are no longer human and don't have rights etc....very scary.

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

+1 His words of that indicate who thinks is normal, rational, are no longer human and don't have rights etc....very scary.

I wonder how far you'd have to dig to discover some police are more interested in your fear than having your respect. I can see where the twisted one's would go for both. I mean, what better indication of superiority in some minds than to have the oppressed thank you for the oppression?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I wonder how far you'd have to dig to discover some police are more interested in your fear than having your respect. I can see where the twisted one's would go for both. I mean, what better indication of superiority in some minds than to have the oppressed thank you for the oppression?

I lost it but at one time had a link to a police departments motto which was something along the lines of "they don't have to respect us, just fear us".....gross.

There is pictures of cops wearing shirts that say waking up early to beat the crowds, again disgusting.

That anyone would take pleasure in dominance afforded to them by fear, coercion , threat of violence and then allowed to have a position of authority.....scary.

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

Respect is good, fear works.

..and submission required.

 

[Primus]

So choose to let cops, veterans and old ladies go?

You forgot the examples I gave of dominos drivers that I don't mess with (unless absolutely have to) fed ex guys, usps, ups, flower delivery guys, etc. Etc.

Its an unwritten rule (at least with me and my coworkers). You don't bust guys/girls balls who are working.

Its sad how little some of you really know about police.

You have no idea the harassment a guy would get if he pulled over an old lady and gave her a ticket for anything, from me included.

Again... still not seeing how this is a bad thing? Don't you want normal everyday working people to be left alone? Most people would say yea focus on the car/truck full of gang members leaving a known drug/gang house. Go ahead pull them over for the tail light.

Or maybe you do pull a working Joe over on his way home for work. Then its "sir just a heads up you have a plate light out, have a goodnight night".

Some guys are so brain washed just can't see reality.

Now ppm had the best, by far, response to this. If you can let the old lady go then don't pull anyone or cite anyone for it. That's an issue with the laws themselves. If you think its a dumb reason to arrest anyone for DUI then so be it. Get the law repealed.

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[sudden valley gunner]

You forgot the examples I gave of dominos drivers that I don't mess with (unless absolutely have to) fed ex guys, usps, ups, flower delivery guys, etc. Etc.

Its an unwritten rule (at least with me and my coworkers). You don't bust guys/girls balls who are working.

Its sad how little some of you really know about police.

You have no idea the harassment a guy would get if he pulled over an old lady and gave her a ticket for anything, from me included.

Again... still not seeing how this is a bad thing? Don't you want normal everyday working people to be left alone? Most people would say yea focus on the car/truck full of gang members leaving a known drug/gang house. Go ahead pull them over for the tail light.

Or maybe you do pull a working Joe over on his way home for work. Then its "sir just a heads up you have a plate light out, have a goodnight night".

Some guys are so brain washed just can't see reality.

Now ppm had the best, by far, response to this. If you can let the old lady go then don't pull anyone or cite anyone for it. That's an issue with the laws themselves. If you think its a dumb reason to arrest anyone for DUI then so be it. Get the law repealed.

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No I didn't forgot was being succinct.

Noticed that you are avoiding the pertinent points that have been made though.

NO one said it was dumb to arrest someone for DUI, why do you continue that dishonest tactic of arguing something people didn't say?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Another thing your "brainwashed" comment should be applied to yourself.

I don't give a rats ass what your departments common accepted practice is, when you give cops deferential treatment you are wrong wrong wrong.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Another thing your "brainwashed" comment should be applied to yourself.

I don't give a rats ass what your departments common accepted practice is, when you give cops deferential treatment you are wrong wrong wrong.

Remember when he argued cops had a duty to screw with people? He is worse than Beretta Lady for changing directions.

 

[Primus]

Another thing your "brainwashed" comment should be applied to yourself.

I don't give a rats ass what your departments common accepted practice is, when you give cops deferential treatment you are wrong wrong wrong.

So is it wrong to give veterans deferential treatment? How about elderly citizens?

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[WalkingWolf]

So is it wrong to give veterans deferential treatment? How about elderly citizens?

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It is dishonest to change the conversation from the problem of deferential treatment that some police officers get, TO elderly or veterans, it was NOT the contention of the discussion.

VERY VERY DISHONEST! But not unexpected from you...