Lawsuit filed for carry in the District of Columbia

OC4me · Jul 6, 2011

No matter which way this Judge's ruling goes, the case is very likely to end up before a divided Supreme Court a year or so after the decision is handed down. My bet is that this Judge is playing the calendar assuming that the longer the case gets dragged out, the better the chance that a left-leaning Supreme Court will finally hear the case.

To be a bit more blunt, I believe the Judge is waiting for a conservative justice to die or retire.

Smurfologist · Jul 7, 2011

OC4me said:
No matter which way this Judge's ruling goes, the case is very likely to end up before a divided Supreme Court a year or so after the decision is handed down. My bet is that this Judge is playing the calendar assuming that the longer the case gets dragged out, the better the chance that a left-leaning Supreme Court will finally hear the case.

To be a bit more blunt, I believe the Judge is waiting for a conservative justice to die or retire.

This Judge has DC (and the United States) in a trick bag, for crying out loud!! This doesn't make any sense to me at all. It seems like there should be some kind of time limit as to when this Judge must rule on a case. What happens if this Judge dies......then what?!? Do they get another Judge and he/she has to look at the testimony, or do they actually have to hear the case again?!? We have been waiting on a desicion for quite some time now!!! If I had a job and was not doing it, I would be fired......especially if I was not doing it for some political belief!!! Why has someone not fired this Judge for not doing his f$#^&*g job?!? So frustrating.....I tell you! I know that it's not helping this situation, but it feels good to get my feelings about this mess out there!! My rant is now over!!!

Thundar · Jul 10, 2011

Got a response from the Chief Justice:

Memorandum for xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx:

All of the judges of this Court are heavily burdened with dispositive
motions. Each of them, including Judge Kennedy, responds as well as they
can given all their competing demands in other cases. You may,
nevertheless, address your concerns to counsel in the case if you wish.

Sincerely,

Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth

JoeSparky · Jul 10, 2011

Thundar said:
Got a response from the Chief Justice:

Memorandum for xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx:

All of the judges of this Court are heavily burdened with dispositive
motions. Each of them, including Judge Kennedy, responds as well as they
can given all their competing demands in other cases. You may,
nevertheless, address your concerns to counsel in the case if you wish.

Sincerely,

Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth

Is it just me or did he just tell you that "we are busy doing important things! Now, go away and leave us alone!"?

Greyh Seer · Jul 18, 2011

I'm surprised this isn't a sticky. I'd hate for us to forget about this while waiting on a decision...

ianto94 · Jul 18, 2011

Palmer v. DC reassigned to another judge

The case was reassigned today to another judge, Judge Frederick J. Scullin, Jr., a senior status judge from the Northern District of NY, sitting by designation by Chief Justice Roberts. Scullin's background is that he was appointed by Bush I to the bench, he was appointed as a US Attorney by Reagan. He served in Vietnam and retired from the Army as a Colonel. He was an Airborne Ranger. I think it is safe to say he is familiar with firearms, but that does not necessarily mean he will be sympathetic to the case. Hopefully he will not require reargument of the pending motions. He has set a status conference for this Friday. We may finally have action in this case shortly. Here is the order assigning him the case.

ianto94 · Jul 18, 2011

New Filing in Case

Alan Gura made the attached filing today in the case to bring the court's attention to the decision of the 7th Circuit in Ezell v. City of Chicago.

JoeSparky · Jul 18, 2011

Halleuha, there has been movement in this LONG DELAYED case.

thebigsd · Jul 18, 2011

Hopefully Mr. Gura will continue to be successful and a few years from now we'll be able to carry in the District.

Grapeshot · Jul 18, 2011

Greyh Seer said:
I'm surprised this isn't a sticky. I'd hate for us to forget about this while waiting on a decision...

Good point - done!

Thundar · Jul 19, 2011

Don't worry about us forgetting. This one is personal. I won't let it go.

Thundar · Jul 26, 2011

Alan Gura mentions this case at the end of his petition to SCOTUS for the National Park ban case. He mentioned the disgusting year and a half delay.

Link Here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455652

If they grant cert to the park ban case, then this case will be decided soon after SCOTUS says: "No really, the right to bear arms does exist outside the home."

I think the CHief Justice reassigned this case to get it done quickly. If GUra doesn't get cert in his gun ban case, then I think this will be the "Bear Arms" case.

Thundar · Aug 2, 2011

Saturday will mark 2 years since the filing without a decision. I know we have a new judge now, but he is a senior judge. they often only work 3 or 4 months a year. Do you think we will get a ruling this year?

Mas49.56 · Aug 2, 2011

2093 is my bet. It will be a Chinese court by then, but at least they will give a judgement.

press1280 · Aug 5, 2011

Thundar said:
Saturday will mark 2 years since the filing without a decision. I know we have a new judge now, but he is a senior judge. they often only work 3 or 4 months a year. Do you think we will get a ruling this year?

We'll get something this year-either an actual ruling or a (don't know the legal term) where the judge will hold the decision because of SCOTUS taking one or more of the carry cases currently pending.

Thundar · Sep 1, 2011

September 2011 and still no decision. More than 2 years, how pathetic. 2012 was a good guess for a district court decision in the case.

Malcolm · Sep 5, 2011

Theres plenty of houses in arizona.....

I applaud any person who takes active interest in his freedom. Especially the man that lives in tyranny. Keep fighting the good fight.

Greyh Seer · Sep 6, 2011

This may seem silly, but is there a way to bring a suit against a judge for failing to perform his job duties...?

Thundar · Sep 6, 2011

To answer your question, no. However, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court took tj

hisone away from Judge Kennedy.

Greyh Seer · Sep 7, 2011

Does that mean we can expect some movement on this soon?

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