You are going to the Ghetto

[tarzan1888]

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"There is beauty all around, when there's love at home.



There is joy in ev'ry sound, when there's love at home.



Peace and plenty here abide, smiling sweet on ev'ry side, time doth softly, sweetly glide, when there's love at home."





Tarzan

 

[expvideo]

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Whatever HankT. I'm done talking to you. You're misquoting me, and taking what I say out of context. On the bright side, you've effectively trampled the topic, and I doubt anyone wants to debate anymore.

BTW, your a d*ck.

 

[HankT]

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expvideo wrote:

BTW, your a d*ck.

So much suave and debonair for just one man...

 

[compmanio365]

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expvideo wrote:

BTW, your a d*ck.

+1000

 

[molonlabetn]

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HankT wrote:

expvideo wrote:

HankT wrote:

expvideo wrote:

BTW, "statistically speaking" black people are criminals.

:question::question::question::question::question::question:

Huh?

I suggest you clarify that statement. It is quite a racist thing to say...

Maybe you just misspoke.

Well maybe you should read the sentence that follows that one (you know, the one where I DID clarify that statement) instead of picking through my paragraph and quoting out of context.. The sentence where I explain that statistics don't justify profiling. I was pointing out that saying something is statistically one way doesn't make it true about everyone.

Statistics would point to black people as more likely to be criminals than white people, but that does not make it a fact, and it does not make it ok to profile black people. I was making a point about the racism of using statistics to justify your prejudices against racial groups. I was pointing out the irrationality, and the statement was made to make a point about statistics. I think quoting it out of context to try and make me look bad was uncalled for, but I hope that I may have cleared up any genuine confusion, if that isactually how you took it.

This:

expvideo wrote:

BTW, "statistically speaking" black people are criminals.

is a completely fallacious statement.

And it is different, much different from this:

expvideo wrote:

Statistics would point to black people as more likely to be criminals than white people,....

Your first statement is utterly wrong. The second is simply woefully uncognizant of how to express a declarative statement about some statistical findings.

The first statement serves racist purposes. Thesecond is just naive use of inferential statistics.

Saying that any reference to ghettos is a slam to blacks and hispanics is just as ridiculous as saying that blacks are criminals.

If I was a betting man, I would wager that exp's statement was meant to point out how incredibly ludicrous it is to jump from statistics to absolutes, as Ron did.

 

[Jersey Ron]

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Ditto! OpenRyan. I respect your views and I respectfully disagree. I have no hard feelings whatsoever.





Jersey

 

[Jersey Ron]

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Actually, no need to respond to you. I think Hank did a pretty good job just by quoting YOU!









Jersey

 

[tarzan1888]

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expvideo wrote:

BTW, "statistically speaking" black people are criminals. Perhaps statistics and profilingaren't the best way for us to judge one another?

Sorry Buddy, this has gone on far enough.

I was raised to respect all of mankind.

You cuss and swear at HankT, and I was especially taught to respect the ladies.

Though I spar with her some times, she is still a lady, so knock that off.

Now you make the above statement.

Some of the best people I know and love in this world are Black, and some of them are related to me. I don't know where you got your statistics, but none of the blacks I know and love are criminals, so there is a major problem with your so called statistics.



Go take your hate somewhere else.



Tarzan

 

[expvideo]

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Jesus christ, can no one understand that I don't think black people are criminals? I was pointing out that you can't judge a group of people on statistics. I was not litterally claiming that black people are criminals. Can you please figure out the context of what I was saying and stop insinuating that I am a rasist.

I was NOT making the statement that black people are criminals. I was making a point about using statistics to justify racism. It's wrong. That was my point. I'm glad you all agree, but for christ's sake, I'm not saying black people are criminals! Jesus. You guys are rediculous!

I can't believe that you guys are taking the bait from HankT. You know there was a point I was making, and it wasn't that black people are criminals, it was that you can't justify racism by claiming that "statistically" anyone in a race is anything, because it's wrong. I intended for the statistic qouteto sound absurd. It was a point about statistics, not about black people. It's not true in any way, and I feel very sorry for you if you took it the wrong way. You can thank HankT for that, or maybe I didn't make my point as clear as I had hoped. Either way, you are completely misunderstanding what I've said.

Let me clarify:

BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL CRIMINALS.

STATISTICS DON'T JUSTIFY RACISM.

Clear enough for everybody?

 

[openryan]

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What happened to my thread

LOL, if everyone in this threat got together for an OC dinner it would end up in a shootout....

 

[tarzan1888]

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expvideo wrote:

____________, can no one understand that I don't think black people are criminals? I was pointing out that you can't judge a group of people on statistics. I was not litterally claiming that black people are criminals. Can you please figure out the context of what I was saying and stop insinuating that I am a rasist.

I was NOT making the statement that black people are criminals. I was making a point about using statistics to justify racism. It's wrong. That was my point. I'm glad you all agree, but for________ sake, I'm not saying black people are criminals! _______. You guys are rediculous!

I can't believe that you guys are taking the bait from HankT. You know there was a point I was making, and it wasn't that black people are criminals, it was that you can't justify racism by claiming that "statistically" anyone in a race is anything, because it's wrong. I intended for the statistic qouteto sound absurd. It was a point about statistics, not about black people. It's not true in any way, and I feel very sorry for you if you took it the wrong way. You can thank HankT for that, or maybe I didn't make my point as clear as I had hoped. Either way, you are completely misunderstanding what I've said.

Let me clarify:

BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL CRIMINALS.

STATISTICS DON'T JUSTIFY RACISM.

Clear enough for everybody?

I understand that you don't feel that all blacks are criminals and I accept that, but please cut the profanity.

I did not take that out of context, but I did remove the profanity from your quote.

When we let others anger us and we lose control and profane, we diminish all. You have said a lot of good things, don't diminish the good things you have said by profaning.

I take that even more personally.



Tarzan

 

[tarzan1888]

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openryan wrote:

What happened to my thread

LOL, if everyone in this threat got together for an OC dinner it would end up in a shootout....

I know ryan.



I got sucked into it too.



Tarzan

 

[molonlabetn]

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openryan wrote:

What happened to my thread

LOL, if everyone in this threat got together for an OC dinner it would end up in a shootout....

Nah... only if was in the ghet... I mean, the bad part of town... er, a high-crime area... ummm... damn! Oh my god... we can't talk about that, because more black people than white people live in those places :shock:.

There's no way to describe certain areas which one is more likely to be in physical danger, without potentially gettingsome irrational racist's panties in a wad.



Sorry about your thread, dude... most of us understood what you were really asking.

 

[HankT]

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expvideo wrote:

...or maybe I didn't make my point as clear as I had hoped.

Oh my. Could that really be it? Why that would mean that you made a mistake! Heaven forbid. And that would mean that to blame someone else....why that would be....well...that would be another mistake!

:uhoh:

Hmmm, lessee...what did ole HankT say immediately after you posted the inflammatory statement?????

HankT wrote:

Huh?

I suggest you clarify that statement. It is quite a racist thing to say...

Maybe you just misspoke.

Gee, do you think that ole HankT is to blame for this brouhaha?

Yes, expvideo, by all means blame ole HankT. He's Mr. Guilty. He's the one who done you wrong.

BTW, you ready to apologize to Jersey Ron?

 

[longwatch]

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Wow look what happens when I have to work. Locked because of the racial stuff and general flaming.
I may decide to do some thread surgery and clean this up or maybe not.