I wasn't trying to define the only way to carry, I was merely pointing out that when I need to, I can conceal my NORMALLY OPENLY CARRIED SIDEARM quite nicely.
I wasn't suggesting that you were. You're one of the few people here that manages a respectable position, and isn't afraid to have a useful conversation with me. Most people see the logic and then pretend I'm crazy when I destroy their argument.
People on these forums who know me have seen me in the motorcycle vest, the Columbia fishing shirt and when it's cold, a nice golf jacket, otherwise it is OPEN CARRY.
OK? I'm not sure how this applies or is a point of contention...
Yes, I would like to ditch the vest and the various cover garments that are ALWAYS in my right side saddle bag. (My range bag is also in there).
I think part of the issue here is that you haven't seen me, and you haven't seen my bike. My bike has no saddle bags. There's nowhere to put them. It doesn't even have a rear fender... It's a dirty little rat bobber. The polar opposite of a Goldwing. It's as stripped-down and spartan as I am.
So, as I won't be welding up a transmission under a vehicle, I can surely drive in and out while armed.
Listen up here, you keep missing the point...
I didn't really understand most of your post as it relates to this thread, but it was entertaining!
There's no way you can miss the point unless you're ignoring everything I say and just waiting for your chance to open up your mouth and push your position again. This is why you, and most neuro-typicals, just don't get it; you've not even paying attention.
The most predictable thign about neuto-typicals is their persistent inability to remember that I am not one of them.
I'm not trying to insult you, but you're twice the man I am, literally. I've gotten a little pudgier since I bought the house. But to throw a shirt over my 1911, which I did today just to make a point to some of the people I talked to, is beyond obnoxious. It's sillier and more prominent than if I just leave the big green thing exposed! There obvious giant gun shape sticking out all over. A mil spec 1911 is almost as long as I am wide! There's nowhere to hide the thing, not even close. Even in a heavy winter jacket, it's still obvious gun poking out.
As noted; I went out OCing my Big Green Goofy Thing today. The waitress at the fusion buffet, which is half my age but still likes to flirt, asked me "is that real?" to which I replied: "It's a real big hunk of rubber." She then queried "Why do you have it if it's not real?" To which I replied "Because in Floriduh it's illegal for me to carry a real gun because I'd have to expose it, and Open Carry is illegal. I have my 380 in my pocket, but it's kinda silly. I'd have better self-defence possibilities with my blade, which I can and do Open carry. Not even sure why I bother with the .380 as even that is uncomfortable to sit on and takes up a pocket."
"Why not just throw your shirt over it?" she asked. So I did. She and a few bystanders had a good chuckle about how silly that looked. "Even if I could, why should I have to hide it? Why am I forced to stay in the closet?" A line that always raises eyebrows coming from a generally rugged looking guy, except with pink toenails wearing flip-flops... Riding a rat bobber... She had that never-thought-about-it-like-that look about her and since I had finished paying my bill at this point, I left.
Also, for the record, I don't normally carry two 45's. That was just for the photo to demonstrate a point.
Yeah, a photo to demonstrate... Something that just doesn't work if you do anything other than pose just so... I think I covered this already. What works for you doesn't work for everyone. We're not all Old Fat White Guys.
I'm half as wide as you are. And I'm not wearing that vest. Even if I did, it wouldn't do any good flapping in the breeze behind me at 70mph on the Interstate. Isn't it hot enough already?
Instead of all this BS, why not just stick it in a triangle holster and have all the same advantages of OC, but technically not be OCing?
How is this anything other than exactly, specifically, and perfectly on topic for this thread? Pretending that it or I have gone wonky just because you don't want to hear it, keep repeating your position without even bothering to listen to mine? Are you Shannon Watts in a Man Costume?
I'm 6'4", 210lbs and dropping... Muscle weights more than flab. I can't even prevent printing of my PT738 if I put it in my front pocket, in relaxed fit 38in waist jeans. Whens the last time you went shopping for pants that had a 3 as the first number? Even dressed up in a 3-piece suit, I can't conceal a 1911. Just barely if it's a cross-draw shoulder rig, but I gotta be paranoid about it even then.
Could I probably find some horribly uncomfortable way to get away with it, having a huge unexplained bulge that makes it look I have a horrible 40lb tumor in a place I really don't want to look like I have a horrible 40lb tumor? Sure. I could.
Would I give a damn that I looked like I had some horrible tumor? No.
I'd care about the fact that it's really uncomfortable and if I move in any fashion other than just stand there for the camera, it's going to hurt.
That being the reason so many give up on full-sized frame concealment and settle for a mouse gun.
Get it yet? Hello?
Why should I be forced to settle just because I'm not an Old Fat White Guy? Sure, I probably will be someday, but not today, and I'm fighting it...
If you can't follow that, and see the context of the previous posts... Well, I'm not the one with the problem. It doesn't get any more clear than that.
If you actually read it, instead of skip it, hit reply, and repeat your agenda... You know, actually reading things is a good way to, uh, read them... This sh!t is not complicated or difficult.
Maybe you're having a problem relating since it's not a problem for you. Maybe you don't care because it's not your problem. Maybe that's why OC in FL is not.
A splinter in my my mind... How do you predict a "need" for two .45s? How do you predict a "need" for 1? Do you realize the position you're taking by saying that? Bill of Needs, etc....