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Will a "Sneaky Pete" holster pass for concealment in Florida?

3FULLMAGS+1

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I know this may be a rather odd question, but I live in Ohio and normally don't conceal, but I'll be visiting Florida in a few weeks. Question is, will a holster like the "Sneaky Pete", which completely covers/encases the firearm, pass as legally concealing in your state, (Florida)?
 

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The sneaky Pete does suffice for concealment in Florida. I have used it extensively here.
 

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That's it, Grapeshot....sort of ridiculess to have to use those in Florida or to attend church up here but I like my shirts tucked in and the convienience of OC but have to appease the law and ignorant and feint of heart, but it's the closest thing to OC w/ just a holster and no clothing over it.......SMH.
 

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Aw, they don't make one for a full-sized, railed 1911...

Guess I'll have to bust out the 9oz cowhide and the awl...

I'm curious, at what point it would be considered printing? Why make a giant rectangle when a triangle will do?
 

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...I'm curious, at what point it would be considered printing? Why make a giant rectangle when a triangle will do?

Because it's actually designed for concealing, not just to "conceal" for the law. A rectangle is much more dismissed as a PDA or phone, or the like.
 

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Because it's actually designed for concealing, not just to "conceal" for the law. A rectangle is much more dismissed as a PDA or phone, or the like.

There's concealment, and there's keeping a secret...

Besides, layout a stencil for a rectangle that can house a full-sized 1911.... It's obnoxiously huge, and nobody is mistaking it for a smartphone...

If it's triangular, maybe it's a pizza slice transporter? Beats carrying a green plastic training gun in my Serpa...

I'm considering making such a holster so I can carry a real gun. The rectangular Sneaky Pete holsters have the Logo right on them, kinda gives it away... Back in the last attempt at OC, I carried a P38 flap holster full of "donut seed" packets in case of illegal search.... lulz.

I really just want a practical way to carry a useful gun in this crappy state.
 

RedRuger

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You might look at cell phone/PDA pouches

Rather than making one and depending on the size of your gun you might consider commercial cell phone or PDA Pouches.
 

MAC702

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It's a "satchel!"

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not to quibble, but in those days being depicted by your foto...weren't they actually called 'Messenger Bags' per se?

and that was the best scene in the whole bloody movie!!

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I am visiting family right now in southern Kalifornia and the sneaky pete holster works well here, no problems so far. Its a very nice product, and makes concealment easy peasy.
 

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You could just carry a man purse...:lol:

I usually have a backpack because rat bike. But there are many sound arguments against off-body carry, and I don't like doing it.

Just trying to find a way to carry a real handgun without having to gain 20 more inches in my waistband before I can do it...
 

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I usually have a backpack because rat bike. But there are many sound arguments against off-body carry, and I don't like doing it.

Just trying to find a way to carry a real handgun without having to gain 20 more inches in my waistband before I can do it...

I normally try to open carry as much as possible but when I have to "hide the sidearm" I also don't wish to purchase larger pants.

This guy is carrying a pair of 45's. He also rides a motorcycle.

A tee shirt and a vest. About as simple as it gets for times when you have to "conceal".

A golf shirt and a vest for when I need to "dress up" a bit also works.

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ixtow

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I normally try to open carry as much as possible but when I have to "hide the sidearm" I also don't wish to purchase larger pants.

This guy is carrying a pair of 45's. He also rides a motorcycle.

A tee shirt and a vest. About as simple as it gets for times when you have to "conceal".

A golf shirt and a vest for when I need to "dress up" a bit also works.
Everyone who's made this argument knows it's a deceptive fraud, no different from an anti-gunner arguing that people capable of defending themselves will just cause more of a mess...

When you just stand there and pose for the camera you can hide a great multitude more than when going about life's activities.

Not everyone has the open carry body type, either...

I can conceal a Desert Eagle if I'm just standing there in the most convenient pose as someone snaps a picture. You don't stand around striking that pose for 16 hours a day, doing nothing useful, do you?

Slide under your car to check what that dragging noise is, or do an oil change. Mow a half-acre lawn and trim a few branches with your pole saw. Hell, just sit down and stand up a few times. Heave 4 tons of CnC mill over a steel beam threshold. Relocate a 500lb Air Compressor. Move 80 tons of steel bar stock and tubing one piece at a time for 9 hours. Lean over a chip tray to reach a electronics cabinet and wire in a 4th axis. Reach for the cookie jar on the highest shelf. Help an old lady reach for stuff on the highest shelf at walmart. Sit on your butt trying to TIG weld (no fans, no breeze at all) for 8 hours and see if you don't sweat out a few gallons of caustic rust accelerator all over your gun... Not only are you guaranteed to print and expose in even these basic activities, but it makes them very hard and uncomfortable to do. Having a usefully-sized gun inside your waistband poking you in places that you really don't want to be poked, for 16 hours a day... You won't be doing it for very long. It won't be your daily option after doing that for a week.

This is the whole reason we have the conversation "The gun you actually carry is the best one. The gun you leave at home because the hassle is too much, is a gun that doesn't do you any good."

This is the very reason why pocket guns are so damned popular. Yes, they're woefully inadequate. Yes, they discourage practice because they're no fun to shoot at all. But, they're the gun you take with you when the experience of carrying a real gun in a legal manner has come to the point that you just won't do it anymore. Carrying a real gun makes you stop doing all the things you'd rather do, or simply should do. Just standing there striking the one pose where you're not printing or exposing isn't even comfortable for 16 hours. Even if you're pretty and fat enough to get away with it, who wants to just stand there all day? Don't you have stuff to do?

Being able to put a gun outside your waistband and not end up exposing or printing is the real barrier here. I'm willing to put up with being forced to keep it wrapped 100% in leather so long as I can put it where it belongs; not inside my pants. There's just no room and it makes everyday life impossible. No sane person will torture themselves with the perpetual physical discomfort and risk of exposure/printing being seen by some statist-activist d0uche cop.

Maybe THAT GUY rides a bike and carries 2 .45s. What kind of bike? How far? Just like the picture leaves reality ut of the analysis, so does your statement deliberately fail to account for important totality of facts... I dare you to come up with a way that I can do it. If there were, I'd be doing it.

I'm not fat. I do more than just pose for the camera in my daily life. I can't find a way to even sit down that isn't painful with a concealed 1911.

What can be made to appear workable while posing for the camera for a fraction of a second under the most convenient of circumstances, doesn't work in real life in even mildly strenuous activities. It's the whole reason pocket guns evolved in the first place... You can't tell me there's no valid reason, when the valid reason was so strong that it forced the evolution of an entire category of guns.

Besides, who wants to sweat all over their $1500 gun and rust it up? I dare you to stand outside not even doing anything for 5 minutes right now and not sweat.

I want to Open Carry because I want to be able to carry a real gun and not hurt myself with it or worry about what might happen if I let it prints or is exposed.

The next best thing is a pizza slice transporter... I'm not trying to be obnoxious with it. I'd rather not do it. I'm willing to settle, but who knows the stretch an activists freedom-hating cop and judge will make in regard to printing?

A Sneaky Pete Holster has the logo right on it, flat-out advertising what's inside. It may be rectangular, but it comes right out and says "There's a gun in here!"

Maybe a triangular holster of similar design is no better, but it's not a P38 flap holster, either...

PT738 in the pocket, Serpa with a Neon Green Cold Steel $20 piece of rubber in it...

http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-92RGC11-Rubber-Training/dp/B00HZIAHH6

I'd OC a banana, but it doesn't fit in my holster...

Even the PT738 is an annoyance to carry... It loves to pop the mag catch. I've actually developed a habit of pushing the mag in as a pull it out of my pocket, much like flipping a manual safety as you draw...
 
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