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color of law

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Figure out the best setup you can manage within these constraints. Still better than nothing.
Is a speed loader a magazine? It is not in Ohio law. A magazine feeds ammo, a speed loader does not. The simplest way would be an unload revolver and a pocket full of bullets or a speed loader.
 

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I'm getting the feeling that you are a neophyte. Oregon law is like most state law, a jigsaw puzzle. I pointed out that the legislator makes all the gun law. I pointed out that, or someone did, that Oregon does Not accept any other state licenses. I then pointed out that just because they mentions license it is ONLY referring to Oregon license. Then I pointed out that all the law allows is a folding pocket knife with a blade no longer than 4 inches. That is it or what HP995 said.

I suggest you go back an re read the OREGON laws I cited earlier and tell me how it is illegal to carry an antique in Oregon, as it is defined by Oregon, when Oregon law clearly says that the Oregon law requiring a license for concealed carry in Oregon does not apply to antiques, as defined by Oregon.

Instead you keep talking about the Oregon reciprocity law for some reason, while ignoring all the rest, and pretending that instead of limiting the ability of local governments to regulate firearms independent of the state that it is instead granting the state the unlimited ability to arbitrarily regulate carry, independent of any other statute. It is bizarre.

If you’re just really bad at explaining your point, please try again.
 

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I suggest you go back an re read the OREGON laws I cited earlier and tell me how it is illegal to carry an antique in Oregon, as it is defined by Oregon, when Oregon law clearly says that the Oregon law requiring a license for concealed carry in Oregon does not apply to antiques, as defined by Oregon.

Instead you keep talking about the Oregon reciprocity law for some reason, while ignoring all the rest, and pretending that instead of limiting the ability of local governments to regulate firearms independent of the state that it is instead granting the state the unlimited ability to arbitrarily regulate carry, independent of any other statute. It is bizarre.

If you’re just really bad at explaining your point, please try again.
You got your answer at northwest firearms: https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/visiting-oregon-and-need-help.265360/
The thread got locked, I wonder why.

You got your answer. This thread needs locked.
 

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You got your answer at northwest firearms: https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/visiting-oregon-and-need-help.265360/
The thread got locked, I wonder why.

You got your answer. This thread needs locked.

No, I didn’t, I got some answers, but not all. It was locked because some mod got his panties in a twist that I would question the status quo and ask about legally gray areas, in a section of the forum specifically about legal issues.

Nice cyber stalk though. I must have hit a nerve when I disagreed with you.
 
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I have nothing against antiques, they look great, but I lack the knowledge or time to speculate on that - you would need to consult a local legal expert if the laws are not crystal clear. You have some ideas, people here also volunteered some ideas and tried to help, so let's call it good and keep it friendly. We may not win in preserving our rights as Americans if we get bogged down this easily in tiny personal squabbles. Figure out your best option within the law, that's your responsibility, and remember LE don't always know the law, better not to draw a lot of attention. Worst case, meet the lucky couple at a more desirable location to wish them well before or after the wedding, or hold a family Christmas party at your place. Life will go on just fine!
 

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No, I didn’t, I got some answers, but not all. It was locked because some mod got his panties in a twist that I would question the status quo and ask about legally gray areas, in a section of the forum specifically about legal issues.

Nice cyber stalk though. I must have hit a nerve when I disagreed with you.
14A.10.010 Definitions. - I. Firearm: a pistol, revolver, gun, rifle, or other mechanism, including a miniature weapon, which projects a missile or shot by force of gunpowder or any other explosive, by spring or by compressed air.

You were told.
Visiting Oregon and need help.

If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times; Definition, definition, definition. The definition does NOT exclude antique firearms.

Carry a pocket knife or maybe an unloaded revolver and a pocket full of ammo.

Over, done and out.....
 

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14A.10.010 Definitions. - I. Firearm: a pistol, revolver, gun, rifle, or other mechanism, including a miniature weapon, which projects a missile or shot by force of gunpowder or any other explosive, by spring or by compressed air.

You were told.
Visiting Oregon and need help.

If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times; Definition, definition, definition. The definition does NOT exclude antique firearms.

Carry a pocket knife or maybe an unloaded revolver and a pocket full of ammo.

Over, done and out.....

Thankyou, that is actually a useful citation. At the point in that thread you keep insisting on linking too, I was asking for that very definition before it was locked, it had not been posted yet.

That is very distressing, I still see a potential weakness in the law beyond that angle, which I mentioned in that other thread, and since you like it so much I’m sure you’ll be able to find it, however that is something that I actually will have to consult an attorney on, the purpose of the threads is mainly to get me the citations to start with.

However, that is still only the city of Portland, I just learned last night that contrary to what I previously believed, the wedding will not actually be in Portland, but rather nearby, so I might still be OK, for the most part anyway, my Sister actually lives in Portland itself. Outside of Portland, my idea still stands.

Care to comment about the antique idea outside of Portland? Specifically, I am looking for any citation regarding concealed carry or definitions that I may have missed. So far I do not see any and I think I’m good.

Before I actually do speak with an attorney (a potentially fabulously expensive conversation), I want to have all relevant laws sitting in front of me and just ask very specific questions related strictly to those to limit billable hours. Unless I can find one that actually does a free consult (yeah right).
 

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Thankyou, that is actually a useful citation. At the point in that thread you keep insisting on linking too, I was asking for that very definition before it was locked, it had not been posted yet.

That is very distressing, I still see a potential weakness in the law beyond that angle, which I mentioned in that other thread, and since you like it so much I’m sure you’ll be able to find it, however that is something that I actually will have to consult an attorney on, the purpose of the threads is mainly to get me the citations to start with.

However, that is still only the city of Portland, I just learned last night that contrary to what I previously believed, the wedding will not actually be in Portland, but rather nearby, so I might still be OK, for the most part anyway, my Sister actually lives in Portland itself. Outside of Portland, my idea still stands.

Care to comment about the antique idea outside of Portland? Specifically, I am looking for any citation regarding concealed carry or definitions that I may have missed. So far I do not see any and I think I’m good.

Before I actually do speak with an attorney (a potentially fabulously expensive conversation), I want to have all relevant laws sitting in front of me and just ask very specific questions related strictly to those to limit billable hours. Unless I can find one that actually does a free consult (yeah right).

And you think my time has no value? Dude, you are on your own.
 
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