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HP995

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One good thing the NRA does: The Armed Citizen® 🤠

"Outside, there was an unknown man who was demanding to be let inside for a cigarette. 🚬 The homeowner refused to provide entry and told the man to leave the premises. 🛑 Undeterred, the trespasser stated that he was coming inside anyway and pulled a weapon from his pocket. 💩 Fearing for his life, the armed citizen raised and fired his gun—hitting the trespasser in the leg—before retreating to his bedroom and calling 911." (y)

 

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Unfortunately, eye95, you and I both know that there are mentally challenged people who think the movie/TV ideal of just "shooting to wound" is the way to go. I am reasonably accurate, to date, but I am very unsure of my ability to hit an arm or leg when under stress. That is the whole reason we are taught "center of mass". It is the largest, and most easily hit, target.
 

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One good thing the NRA does: The Armed Citizen® 🤠

"Outside, there was an unknown man who was demanding to be let inside for a cigarette. 🚬 The homeowner refused to provide entry and told the man to leave the premises. 🛑 Undeterred, the trespasser stated that he was coming inside anyway and pulled a weapon from his pocket. 💩 Fearing for his life, the armed citizen raised and fired his gun—hitting the trespasser in the leg—before retreating to his bedroom and calling 911." (y)

now the guy have to smoke 2 packs of cigs from all the stress
 

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"Police say 36-year-old Adam Gelatt is out of the hospital.
He has been charged with simple assault and trespassing, and released on $50,000 unsecured bail.
Gelatt is accused of breaking into a 90-year-old man's home in Honesdale."

 

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Unfortunately, eye95, you and I both know that there are mentally challenged people who think the movie/TV ideal of just "shooting to wound" is the way to go. I am reasonably accurate, to date, but I am very unsure of my ability to hit an arm or leg when under stress. That is the whole reason we are taught "center of mass". It is the largest, and most easily hit, target.
And is far more likely to stop a threat in his tracks!
 

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This 90 year old man seems to be one of the most accurate of the year! He was criticized for choosing the leg, but assuming he did intentionally choose it, I guess that's his prerogative (Lone Ranger generation?) and he successfully hit his target. 😢 "No fair, I can't hit a leg, so an old man shouldn't be allowed to!" From the other current stories, no bullseye hits - just shoulders and an innocent house. :) I'm not a "leg man" either, but the guy is 90 and hits what he shoots, not bad! 👍
 

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Now as paul harvey stated, the rest of story...
WAYNE COUNTY—Pennsylvania State Police (PSP) had a busy Friday, responding to two separate incidents in Wayne County.
Around 3:00 a.m., Friday morning, troopers from the Honesdale barracks responded to an attempted home invasion near Boyds Mills.
According to a police report filed by investigating officer Trooper John D. Decker, a man named Adam Gelatt, 36 of Milanville, arrived at the rear entrance to the residence of 90-year-old William Gabriellini, early Friday morning.
The report states Gelatt ”...repeatedly banged on the door,” and ”...told Gabriellini that he wanted to come inside and he wanted a cigarette.”

Answering the door with revolver in hand, Gabriellini refused entrance and told Gelatt to leave.
“Gelatt then told Gabriellini that he was coming inside anyway and then pulled what Gabriellini thought was a gun out of his pocket,” states the report. responded by raising and firing his revolver, hitting Gelatt in the leg.
The homeowner then locked the door, barricaded himself in his bedroom, and called 911.
The report states PSP found Gelatt on the porch with what appeared to be a gunshot wound in the leg.

He was transported to CMC Hospital for treatment with charges

So if this 90 yo homeowner is like most 90 yo men, feeble & frail & hunched over, brings and raises his revolver, possibly a full size heavy revolver he bought in the 60s when he was in his 60s, from his side and fires it, i’m afraid the olde fart was lucky to hit the BG’s leg at all!

Sidebar: Wonder why NRA used the term ‘weapon’ per se instead of the correct firearm nomenclature ?
 

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Too many assumptions - hunched? heavy? lucky? Other guys are hitting air and houses. Credit where it's due, and a little respect for our elders! Something that shouldn't go out of style. :)
 

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Too many assumptions - hunched? heavy? lucky? Other guys are hitting air and houses. Credit where it's due, and a little respect for our elders! Something that shouldn't go out of style. :)
Assumptions...nawlll HP995 - tis reality based...
how is the visual acuity of a 90 yo;
we might consider the involuntary hand tremors;
perhaps discuss elder’s significant difficulty standing upright or walking on worn out knees/hips without assistance of ancillary equipment, e.g., chair back, walker, cane;
Of course desire of the elderly without exuberance of expendable income to spend their SSI/pension on new fancy polymer composite revolvers;
as well as the myriad of other debilitating physical/mental ailments which affect the elderly citizens of this great nation.

Unfortunately, tis the sojourn of adulthood every human partakes in until death.

As for exhibiting respect...so you truly believe i disrespected the article’s 90 yo shooter by pointing out reality based elder ‘assumption(s)...might wish to go volunteer as a senior citizens community center and personally witness the physical/mental devastation our elderly endure, especially by ignoring warnings to eat right, keep weight in check, do not smoke, etc!
 

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Alas, Solus, you assume that all elderly are equally afflicted by ailments, just as you ignore that many not elderly are also heavily afflicted.

You forget that as you yourself posted, alas alas Solus: the BG "arrived at the rear entrance to the residence of 90-year-old William Gabriellini." Not the senior citizens community center.

Evidently the GG is fighting fit enough to still live at home, not to mention successfully defending that home with (A) the trusty revolver, (B) the 2A, and (C) better aim than people half his age who might feel chapped by the comparison! (y)

You forget, alas Solus, that this mighty nation is led by many elders including 5 Senators in their mid-80s. Those "debilitated" seniors are a lot more influential and active than you or I, alas Solus. Remember, as our energetic fast-food guzzling Prez reminds us, some people have great genetics. :ROFLMAO:


Unfortunately Solus your "reality based" assumptions fly in the face of established fact - that said 90-year-old William Gabriellini was fit enough to reside in his own home, answer the door, and defend himself and his home successfully - hitting his target where many fail. Yet, alas Solus, your bias against the healthy elderly cause you to deny him fair recognition for a home defense well done. :rolleyes:
 

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HP995, there are physical/health/age exceptions to every situation are there not HP995?

Query...at 0300L...would you personally respond to a barge of banging on your residence’s rear entrance, let alone engage with someone even through the door?

Oh 5 national legislators in their 80s eh...out of 535 not bad!
 

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At 55, my grandfather was still hauling dozens of 60 lb hams into and out of his truck, one in each hand.

At 75, my grandfather's grip could still break bones.

At 95, my grandfather had finally met his match against Father Time, and was resting, waiting for his end.

That end came one year later. Quite the leader of the family, despite being the youngest of nine children, more than 300 friends and family showed up at his funeral, despite it being in rural farmland and having outlived most of his friends and a good number of the members of his family.

As for me, I moved myself to a new home last month. Despite taking it easy, I'm just now recovering and many joints still ache! But my muscles are stronger than they've been in three years, so I've capitalized on that by going to the gym, and...

Wait... What were we talking about, again?

Oh, yes... Old men. :)

Well, like I said, I moved myself, about half an 18-wheeler's worth, some 14,000 lbs. We're no longer bulletproof like we were when we were young, but we're not to be trifled with, either!
 
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At 55, my grandfather was still hauling dozens of 60 lb hams into and out of his truck, one in each hand.
At 75, my grandfather's grip could still break bones.
At 95, my grandfather had finally met his match against Father Time, and was resting, waiting for his end.
That end came one year later. Quite the leader of the family, despite being the youngest of nine children, more than 300 friends and family showed up at his funeral, despite it being in rural farmland and having outlived most of his friends and a good number of the members of his family.
As for me, I moved myself to a new home last month. Despite taking it easy, I'm just now recovering and many joints still ache! But my muscles are strong than they've been in three years, so I've capitalized on that by going to the gym, and...

Wait... What were we talking about, again?

Oh, yes... Old men. :)
Well, like I said, I moved myself, about half an 18-wheeler's worth, some 14,000 lbs. We're no longer bulletproof like we were when we were young, but we're not to be trifled with, either!
Good question since9...

Interestingly you didn’t mention a thing about your FATHER?
 

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Great guy. Still going strong coming up on 85. But he never had Popeye-like forearms like my grandfather.
sigh...insecure ego got to you again, eh...

thanks, I need to watch you continual contradictory posts...quite humorous...truly unbelievable.
 
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