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single action only revolver

kwikrnu

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25sierraman

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I think you mean "single action revolver", not "Single Action Only" revolver. That term, just like "Double Action/Single Action" are misnomers in that they are more recently coined terms of action types which have existed for many years. Sorry, just a point to give.

No, a single action revolver, while an incredible fun gun, is not the best choice of a defensive sidearm in today's world. You are limited to six rounds (most of them, anyway), and an action type which is pretty slow for repeat shots (unless your name is Bill Munden). If you are of a mind to carry a revolver, you would be much better served to carry one which is double action. Single actions are great for hunting but when the potential to encounter a BG, or multiple BG's, with semi-auto pistols, you could find yourself in deep kimchi.


HAHAHAHAHA "deep kimchi" Being half Korean I really got a laugh out of that expression.
 

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A lot of the single actions don't have to have an empty chamber because the hammer could be rested in the safety notches between chambers, like on the old Remington 1858. The 1860 Colt was often carried with a empty chamber but the Remington had all chambers loaded.

Some of the more modern designs are also safe to carry with a round under the hammer due to transfer bars and such.
 
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Well kimchi stinks like nothing else so I'm assuming that its just something you don't want to be deep into......I still eat it though.

You ain't the only one!! I love the stuff, but have to use industrial-strength mouthwash afterward before I get around anyone.

You have never lived until you are badly hung-over and have someone who ate kimchi for breakfast breathe on you!!!
 

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Well kimchi stinks like nothing else so I'm assuming that its just something you don't want to be deep into......I still eat it though.

Kimchi is nothing but spiced (think hot peppers) pickled cabbage. There are those who do not care for its taste, and others who ignorantly claim that it imparts a certain lingering mouth odor thus causing couples to decide ahead of time if both will partake or both will abstain, as the one who abstained will not get close to the one who partook until said alleged odor dies off. Same situation when considering sauerkraut or onions or anything else.

"Deep kimchi" is supposedly a reference to the product that is buried in a hole and allowed to ferment for a while. The taste is, shall we say, more pronounced than the unfermented kind.

Carrying a SAA revolver is an acquired taste, like that for kimchee and other things. If you like it you may come to learn more about it, and how to use it so that you do not end up offending others or hurting yourself. Most folks are not willing to put forth the effort or suffer the initial pains.

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Deep Kimschi

I enjoy the fact that we have so many "subject matter experts" on OCDO. The half Korean guy would know probably better than I do, but I spent two years in Dong Duchon Korea, Republic of. Deep Kimschi, was an Army term ising Kimschi to replace S**T as most GI's considered it in the same context. I didn't partake of the summer kimschi where they let it rot on the rooftops, nor the winter where it was buried and allowed to ferment/rot. What I did like was the "Cherry-boy Kimschi" cucumber and other varieties.
 

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I think you mean "single action revolver", not "Single Action Only" revolver. That term, just like "Double Action/Single Action" are misnomers in that they are more recently coined terms of action types which have existed for many years. Sorry, just a point to give.
Meh... I don't see a problem with labeling an auto-loader as DA/SA. Very nice to distinguish it from a DA revolver, which will fire DA every time, unless you pull the hammer back!

I have a Bersa Firestorm, which is DA/SA, and a Jennings J-22, which is SA w/ blowback. They both fire the exact same after I chamber the first round. It's nice to quickly tell that I'm looking at a an auto-loader when I see DA/SA. It's a quick annotation.

SAO, on the other hand.... That is a bit unnecessary!!

How does one carry a SA revolver? Do you carry it hammer back like a 1911, or hammer down on an empty chamber like an old DA?
The NAA mini-revolvers have safety notches between each chamber of their 5-round cylinders.

I think it would be incredibly difficult to see an accidental discharge with their safety notches.

Single actions are great for hunting but when the potential to encounter a BG, or multiple BG's, with semi-auto pistols, you could find yourself in deep kimchi.
This is so very true.

Just the other day, I was researching the ability to distinguish a DA revolver from a SA revolver without pulling the trigger. I fell short of my goal after finding an article by a man who mentioned when one might prefer a SA revolver...

His answer was that SA is no good for human "opponents"... but when hunting a fast & fierce beast that is running at you, a DA trigger might not yield the best of accuracy & you more than likely wouldn't take your time to cock the hammer. The SA revolver forces you to cock the hammer out of habit, and take your time with the aiming. Instead of running out of ammo, you could potentially save your live by taking your time.

Just something to think about. :D

EDIT: That said.... I am looking to carry a NAA single-action revolver (probly the Black Widow) with me all the time. I hope to never have to pull out my gun at all, but if I do... that means the lightest gun possible has the most chance of being on me EVERY day. I'm not going to be carrying a gun that's more than a pound when loaded. Half a pound is close to my limit.
 
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Single action for every day carry? It's not completely out of the question. As with most things, it depends on the person. I usually advise to carry what you are comforatable with and what you are proficient with. Double actions and autoloaders generally have a faster fire/reload speed, and usually an autoloader will hold more rounds than a revolver.

That being said, a bullet fired from a SA pistol isn't any softer, and it doesn't hurt any more or less, than a bullet fired from a semi auto.

I carry a DA .38 special, and I still cock the hammer back before firing just out of habit. Cocking the gun, IMO, isn't that big of a problem as long as you are used to doing it. Really I think I would rather carry a single action pistol that I am familiar with than a semi auto that I am not. The safeties on a .45 ACP would slow me down a lot more than cocking the gun would. Reloading time is another matter completely, and I have yet to meet anyone who can reload a single action faster than a gun that uses a magazine.

In any event, pick a gun that you are comforatable with, that feels right to you, and that you WILL TRAIN WITH as often as possible, and that you enjoy carrying (otherwise it'll wind up sitting at home while you're out at the store).

All the rest is semantics.
 

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Saa

this is just my opinion and from my own OC experience, I OC a Ruger Vaquero SA and since one of the reasons that people OC is that the sight of a gun might deter a BG from going after you, well my SA does that very well. It's that conditioning of kids watching cowboy movies they remember as adults what six-shooters do and memory training kicks in and they think not to mess with "this cowboy" IMO
 

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I have and carry single action revolvers on occasion, usually when I am going hunting and do not feel like bringing two handguns. I still do not recommend buying one as your only weapon for self defense, but I don't feel any disadvantage carrying either my 3 screw ruger 357 with 5 bullets in it or my new model blackhawk 44 with 6 bullets in it. I know it takes a bit longer to reload, but if I cannot hit you with a bullet I can use it as a club.

Something that is pretty hard to do with a glock 36.
 
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