Regal Kingstowne Cinema and their no gun policy

[paramedic]

UUUMMM, that is Grundy, VA LOL. I live in that area, about 18 miles from the school. I work with the people that responded to that call (although orginally from here, I was not living here at the time). And yes the individuals that retrieved guns, saved many more lives that day.

 

[Betty_Rose_Brown]

UUUMMM, that is Grundy, VA LOL. I live in that area, about 18 miles from the school. I work with the people that responded to that call (although orginally from here, I was not living here at the time). And yes the individuals that retrieved guns, saved many more lives that day.

Oopsie. You're right.

I was so close though...

 

[Grapeshot]

Apparently many people thought it was an act for the movie and just sat in their seats.
I doubt any of those Spruce Yuppies had a gun.
Colorado ain't what it used to be!

Denver is the anti-gun strong hold. The rest of the state is more pro self-defense.

It's sad the media can't even get it right. I heard reports with the guys at work, of the exit door being busted down. My first thought was how? Most of those doors are solid metal, and locked from the outside.

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Emergency exit doors are constructed so as to prevent entry from the the outside, but are easily defeated. In this case the shooter started on the inside and is alleged to have kept the door from latching while he armed himself and returned.

Can you say "fish in a barrel"?

 

[JosephMingle]

...Can you say "fish in a barrel"?

I prefer the phrase "sheep in a pen."

 

[user]

What I'm wondering about (caution- lawyer mode) is how liable that theatre will be to the wounded and the families of the decedants for their negligent failure to protect, given their active policy of prohibiting the right of self-defense as a term or condition of the license to enter and watch the movie?

 

[Repeater]

Redbox OC?

Has anyone OC'd at a Redbox, standing in line, peaceably waiting your turn, waiting to get your copy of a new DVD flick, like this.

Who could possibly object?

 

[Repeater]

What I'm wondering about (caution- lawyer mode) is how liable that theatre will be to the wounded and the families of the decedants for their negligent failure to protect, given their active policy of prohibiting the right of self-defense as a term or condition of the license to enter and watch the movie?

Well, several issues come to mind. For one, what is the case law in Colorado on Security Negligence?

Second, Standing is important. A person who has a gun and may lawfully carry it elsewhere, but not in the theater, might have standing to sue. Those who don't own a gun might not.

 

[paramedic]

What I'm wondering about (caution- lawyer mode) is how liable that theatre will be to the wounded and the families of the decedants for their negligent failure to protect, given their active policy of prohibiting the right of self-defense as a term or condition of the license to enter and watch the movie?

Dan, that is a big topic of discussion in the breaking news thread about the incident. I really hope someone decides to go after them, if they win it could be a big message for other anti establishments.


(off topic)
I noticed a while back in the SWVA thread that you asked about Dickenson County, I live there now, was just wondering

 

[mpguy]

Denver is the anti-gun strong hold. The rest of the state is more pro self-defense.



Emergency exit doors are constructed so as to prevent entry from the the outside, but are easily defeated. In this case the shooter started on the inside and is alleged to have kept the door from latching while he armed himself and returned.

Can you say "fish in a barrel"?

I always thought someone should be hired to watch these doors, or have a camera on them. I know the movies place in Chesapeake, Va is also anti. Last time I went, 2 cops were at the front, just hanging at the entrance. Back door was wide open, for anyone to sneak in or out as they see fit.

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[Tanner]

I always thought someone should be hired to watch these doors, or have a camera on them. I know the movies place in Chesapeake, Va is also anti. Last time I went, 2 cops were at the front, just hanging at the entrance. Back door was wide open, for anyone to sneak in or out as they see fit.

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When I was in highschool I worked at a huge theater that holds eaisly 1000 people with 20 different screen.
on Thursday 1 officer stood at the front. Friday and saturday there were 2. The three years I worked there they were never needed. Well once I called them on a walkie because when I went into a theater after the last showing of a movie for the night I walked into a orgy of about 7 people. They all ran out of the emergency exit!

 

[Ric in Richmond]

What I'm wondering about (caution- lawyer mode) is how liable that theatre will be to the wounded and the families of the decedants for their negligent failure to protect, given their active policy of prohibiting the right of self-defense as a term or condition of the license to enter and watch the movie?

Maybe they should sue the town. Whole town is ANTI CCW.

So the whole event should not have happened....I mean the carry of weapons were illegal, the murder was illegal....

But more laws will make it stop. Uh yeah....sure.

 

[Grapeshot]

When I was in highschool I worked at a huge theater that holds eaisly 1000 people with 20 different screen.
on Thursday 1 officer stood at the front. Friday and saturday there were 2. The three years I worked there they were never needed. Well once I called them on a walkie because when I went into a theater after the last showing of a movie for the night I walked into a orgy of about 7 people. They all ran out of the emergency exit!

Please do not make this relevant to OC. :uhoh: No, no - please no!

 

[Tanner]

Please do not make this relevant to OC. :uhoh: No, no - please no!

Well I guess it wouldent be relevant since it is hard to carry at all when your nude!

 

[peter nap]

Well I guess it wouldent be relevant since it is hard to carry at all when your nude!

Just as long as it doesn't involve BIG GUNS!

 

[Tanner]

Just as long as it doesn't involve BIG GUNS!

Im struggeling to keep it rated PG here. That made me laugh out loud for a reason ill keep to myself.

Now there is a swift terminal in memphis TN full of drivers giving me funny looks. Ive got some explaining to do.

 

[TFred]

Maybe they should sue the town. Whole town is ANTI CCW.

So the whole event should not have happened....I mean the carry of weapons were illegal, the murder was illegal....

But more laws will make it stop. Uh yeah....sure.

I'm just now starting to look into this, but apparently from documents both here on OCDO and other sources, Colorado's preemption of firearms has suffered a judicial defeat that has rendered it useless.

From http://www.opencarry.org/co.html, we have:

"Colorado was once one of our "Gold Star" open carry states. However, Denver filed and won a suit challenging the states excellent preemption law. Consequently, both open carry and unlicensed open car carry in Denver are prohibited. There are reports that other localities are planning to follow suit."

From http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm, we have:

"Concealed Carry Bans: Aurora, Boulder, Broomfield, Colorado Springs, Denver, Englewood, Lakewood, Littleton, Longmont, Northglenn, Pueblo, Thornton, Westminster, Wheat Ridge"

I haven't read the details on how they lost the lawsuit, but it would seem to behoove us to learn about it, so we can protect our own preemption law here in Virginia.

TFred

 

[peter nap]

I'm just now starting to look into this, but apparently from documents both here on OCDO and other sources, Colorado's preemption of firearms has suffered a judicial defeat that has rendered it useless.

From http://www.opencarry.org/co.html, we have:

"Colorado was once one of our "Gold Star" open carry states. However, Denver filed and won a suit challenging the states excellent preemption law. Consequently, both open carry and unlicensed open car carry in Denver are prohibited. There are reports that other localities are planning to follow suit."

From http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm, we have:

"Concealed Carry Bans: Aurora, Boulder, Broomfield, Colorado Springs, Denver, Englewood, Lakewood, Littleton, Longmont, Northglenn, Pueblo, Thornton, Westminster, Wheat Ridge"

I haven't read the details on how they lost the lawsuit, but it would seem to behoove us to learn about it, so we can protect our own preemption law here in Virginia.

TFred

Even if it was legal TFred, it wouldn't have mattered assuming everyone but the shooter followed the law.
The theater this happened in was owned by Cinemark which is very Anti.
Photo's by our own John Pierce

 

[TFred]

Even if it was legal TFred, it wouldn't have mattered assuming everyone but the shooter followed the law.
The theater this happened in was owned by Cinemark which is very Anti.
Photo's by our own John Pierce

Understand that... the entire town being anti-concealed carry explains why nobody was able to intervene from the outside, once it was known something was gong on. Now maybe nobody knew until the guy walked out... not sure... but as with any anti-gun policy, they took away any small chance those last few victims might have had.

I hope they are sleeping well tonight.

TFred

 

[TFred]

Update

I'm just now starting to look into this, but apparently from documents both here on OCDO and other sources, Colorado's preemption of firearms has suffered a judicial defeat that has rendered it useless.

From http://www.opencarry.org/co.html, we have:

"Colorado was once one of our "Gold Star" open carry states. However, Denver filed and won a suit challenging the states excellent preemption law. Consequently, both open carry and unlicensed open car carry in Denver are prohibited. There are reports that other localities are planning to follow suit."

From http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm, we have:

"Concealed Carry Bans: Aurora, Boulder, Broomfield, Colorado Springs, Denver, Englewood, Lakewood, Littleton, Longmont, Northglenn, Pueblo, Thornton, Westminster, Wheat Ridge"

I haven't read the details on how they lost the lawsuit, but it would seem to behoove us to learn about it, so we can protect our own preemption law here in Virginia.

TFred

Some Colorado folks on the national thread covering this story are saying that Aurora does not ban concealed carry. I provided this link, hopefully will get more info soon.

TFred

 

[Bowesmobile]

What I'm wondering about (caution- lawyer mode) is how liable that theatre will be to the wounded and the families of the decedants for their negligent failure to protect, given their active policy of prohibiting the right of self-defense as a term or condition of the license to enter and watch the movie?

I thought the EXACT same thing! Man how many lawsuits should be file for failure to enforce their no gun policy and the emotional and physical trauma that situation caused all those patrons! I'm sure they'll try to sign away liability somehow. But its going to be tough (if everyone sues) for that theater to keep the doors open..