police shoot and kill dog after detaining owner for filming

[Mattimusmaximus]

-Matt of Hillsboro OR-

 

[countryclubjoe]

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-Matt of Hillsboro OR-

Ha,ha

OUTSTANDING.

ccj

 

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Here is a link to the video that was originally posted. Youtube has been pulling it but LiveLeak has not. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e1_1372722199

 

[countryclubjoe]

The young man that lost his dog seemed very compliant. After being handcuffed he was punched in the chest/stomach area.

Has the names of the violators been released yet by the PD?

The problem with these videos is that they get forgotten the minute another one appears.

Best regards

CCJ

 

[Citizen]

The young man that lost his dog seemed very compliant. After being handcuffed he was punched in the chest/stomach area.

Has the names of the violators been released yet by the PD?

The problem with these videos is that they get forgotten the minute another one appears.

Best regards

CCJ

Oh, some of us remember.

 

[g21sfpistol]

No.

I said no such thing. Either you cannot read or you are being deliberately dishonest.

The reasons the dog was shot include the fact that its owner failed to secure it AND the fact that it threatened an armed man.

You cannot shoot every loose dog. I never said you could.

RIF.


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so it sounds like you are ok with LEO discharging their firearms, in unnecessary situations, in your neighbor around your family and house. or even permit holders if i were to feel threatened by a dog.

 

[eye95]

so it sounds like you are ok with LEO discharging their firearms, in unnecessary situations, in your neighbor around your family and house. or even permit holders if i were to feel threatened by a dog.

No, it does not sound that way. This is twice in a row now that you have absolutely misrepresented what I have said. You are either totally incompetent at reading or a hopeless liar. Either way, you are not worth responding to on topic. There is no need to give a person a third chance to prove that he not a boob nor a liar.

 

[g21sfpistol]

No, it does not sound that way. This is twice in a row now that you have absolutely misrepresented what I have said. You are either totally incompetent at reading or a hopeless liar. Either way, you are not worth responding to on topic. There is no need to give a person a third chance to prove that he not a boob nor a liar.

you prove a great point there. not really. i am on topic. part of the thread is "police shoot and kill dog" but getting back on topic how do you know the dog was threatening the officer? because it jumped at him? ive been around dogs all my life. thats how they play. they even play bite. ive had many many dogs, that i didnt know, jump and lunge at me. my dog is the same way with strangers and he is as big as that rot if not bigger. but if you are ok with the situtation being discussed then it seems to me that you are ok with someone smoking someone elses dog infront of people where they live. and if you think im incompetent of reading you should go back and reread what i stated. how is a 70 or 80lb dog a threat to a 180-190lb man? a dog has one way to attack you so you can basically guess what they are going to do. its not hard to figure out. if you cant handle a dog who only has one way to attck you then how will you handle a bad guy who can attack you in many ways? its like a 10 year old attacking you. heck a 10 year old can be more dangerous cause they can pick up weapons. so let me ask this then. if that was a kid trying to defend his dad and he was getting pysical you think that officer would have shot?? i dont know. what i do know hes pretty quick on the trigger though and resorting to deadly force. like i said do they have a kill kill kill mind set now? are they Marines now?

 

[eye95]

I have already decided that the stupidity or dishonesty that you have twice now posted means that it is not worthwhile my responding to you.

There are others here who are worth debating. They do so with honesty and intelligence.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

unlawful arrest-dog was helping him to resist............

 

[WalkingWolf]

unlawful arrest-dog was helping him to resist............

I don't believe he wanted the dog to be involved, or was anyway resisting. It appeared that he WANTED to be arrested. The question only he can answer is why. Until he does we can only guess.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I don't believe he wanted the dog to be involved, or was anyway resisting. It appeared that he WANTED to be arrested. The question only he can answer is why. Until he does we can only guess.

I was being facetious......

but .....he might have wanted to be arrested, still doesn't make it not a false arrest, or he may very likely knew that even to look like he wasn't going to cooperate could end his life...

Personally I have no problems with people following and recording cops, even if it's for money, it needs to be done.

 

[WalkingWolf]

I was being facetious......

but .....he might have wanted to be arrested, still doesn't make it not a false arrest, or he may very likely knew that even to look like he wasn't going to cooperate could end his life...

Personally I have no problems with people following and recording cops, even if it's for money, it needs to be done.

I have a problem when they are harassing anybody, police, other citizens, or they are endangering lives, anybodies life. If a person is going to follow and record police that is all they should do. Not inject comments, of any kind, or play loud music, or do anything to distract them from their job. If somebody was to follow me around as a citizen and harass me I would file charges. Police officers have the same rights as citizens.

I could just hear the cries of these loons if the police followed them.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I have a problem when they are harassing anybody, police, other citizens, or they are endangering lives, anybodies life. If a person is going to follow and record police that is all they should do. Not inject comments, of any kind, or play loud music, or do anything to distract them from their job. If somebody was to follow me around as a citizen and harass me I would file charges. Police officers have the same rights as citizens.

I could just hear the cries of these loons if the police followed them.

I agree nobody should be harassed, but interjecting comments-freedom of speech.

I disagree police officers have the same rights as citizens while on duty, they are constitutionally restricted agents of the state.

 

[WalkingWolf]

I agree nobody should be harassed, but interjecting comments-freedom of speech.

I disagree police officers have the same rights as citizens while on duty, they are constitutionally restricted agents of the state.

The person in this video admitted to media that he was trying to intimidate police. I'll dig but it was a CBS local station. A police officer has a right to safely perform his job, SCOTUS has affirmed that right. The a hole was clearly attempting to interfere with a police crime scene. That is not expressing free speech, that is endangerment.

As to the other twerps who follows police, try to inject as a law enforcement agent making supposed illegal citizen arrests for MISDEMEANORS. Hopefully their time will come and they will be put away making everybody safer.

I have no problem with people who bait police. I do have a problem with people who accost police verbally, angrily, and try to enforce misdemeanor, petty, or traffic laws that they have no authority. Anytime a civilian attempts a arrest for anything less than a felony they should be arrested and charged with impersonating. If a person breaks a law to entrap or bait police they deserve to serve time.

Anytime a person interferes with loud music, a weapon, or by interjecting themselves into the scene of crime, they should be arrested. If their interference results in property damage, injury, or animal cruelty they should be charged with it.

I hope they throw the book at this jerk, I have no sympathy for him. The suffering of that dog was on him. To be honest I believe they would have let him go after the detainment had the dog not been shot. I do believe they should charge him with dog at large, and animal cruelty.

 

[Ca Patriot]

The person in this video admitted to media that he was trying to intimidate police. I'll dig but it was a CBS local station. A police officer has a right to safely perform his job, SCOTUS has affirmed that right. The a hole was clearly attempting to interfere with a police crime scene. That is not expressing free speech, that is endangerment.

As to the other twerps who follows police, try to inject as a law enforcement agent making supposed illegal citizen arrests for MISDEMEANORS. Hopefully their time will come and they will be put away making everybody safer.

I have no problem with people who bait police. I do have a problem with people who accost police verbally, angrily, and try to enforce misdemeanor, petty, or traffic laws that they have no authority. Anytime a civilian attempts a arrest for anything less than a felony they should be arrested and charged with impersonating. If a person breaks a law to entrap or bait police they deserve to serve time.

Anytime a person interferes with loud music, a weapon, or by interjecting themselves into the scene of crime, they should be arrested. If their interference results in property damage, injury, or animal cruelty they should be charged with it.

I hope they throw the book at this jerk, I have no sympathy for him. The suffering of that dog was on him. To be honest I believe they would have let him go after the detainment had the dog not been shot. I do believe they should charge him with dog at large, and animal cruelty.

Reading this garbage almost makes me think you were a cop. hahahha

 

[OC for ME]

I have a problem when they are harassing anybody, police, other citizens, or they are endangering lives, anybodies life. If a person is going to follow and record police that is all they should do. Not inject comments, of any kind, or play loud music, or do anything to distract them from their job. <snip>

This is exactly the type of mindset the LE community relies upon to be sure that their power is expanded. That the instances of being held accountable for their unlawful acts is reduced. LE is very much in favor of this mindset when one of their minions is faced with a jury trial whether civil or criminal.

No parades. No sporting events. No large public gatherings. No peaceful protests. No state or county fairs. Cops are at all these events and yet those cops seem to be able to do their job inspite of the distractions described above being present at these events.

I held WW to be a reasonable citizen until this post.

 

[WalkingWolf]

This is exactly the type of mindset the LE community relies upon to be sure that their power is expanded. That the instances of being held accountable for their unlawful acts is reduced. LE is very much in favor of this mindset when one of their minions is faced with a jury trial whether civil or criminal.

No parades. No sporting events. No large public gatherings. No peaceful protests. No state or county fairs. Cops are at all these events and yet those cops seem to be able to do their job inspite of the distractions described above being present at these events.

I held WW to be a reasonable citizen until this post.

Those events are related to a armed entry following a armed robbery how? Tell you what next time they are wrangling a suspect on the ground walk up to them and start yelling at them. See how it works our for you, then get back to us. :uhoh::lol:

BTW also have a gun in your hand waiving it around while doing it, or a big stick, or a large dog.

 

[OC for ME]

Three police officers appearing in a video in which one shoots and kills a dog as they arrested its owner in Hawthorne were pulled from street duty on Wednesday following numerous death threats against them and their families, police said.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_...lice-pull-officers-involved-dog-shooting-from

Unfortunate but not unexpected given the media coverage of this incident.

A police dog who attacks a citizen and that citizen defends himself from the trained to attack dog via the use of lethal force will likely be shot for doing the same exact thing as that cop did.

If the situation was so intense for the police at that time the use of three officers seems to indicate that at least three officers were not intensely engaged in the armed entry. Also, your premise that LE can lawfully quarantine any sized area and exclude citizens, even to the extent of forcing them from their home, as acceptable LE behavior is another mindset by which LE relies upon to abrogate their unlawful acts.

That situation was not that intense and just cuz the cops say it was does not make it so. I wonder what those cops conducting the "armed entry" thought when four shots rang out.

Are some in LE starting to act as does their theatrical counterparts in television and film.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Unfortunate but not unexpected given the media coverage of this incident.

A police dog who attacks a citizen and that citizen defends himself from the trained to attack dog via the use of lethal force will likely be shot for doing the same exact thing as that cop did.

If the situation was so intense for the police at that time the use of three officers seems to indicate that at least three officers were not intensely engaged in the armed entry. Also, your premise that LE can lawfully quarantine any sized area and exclude citizens, even to the extent of forcing them from their home, as acceptable LE behavior is another mindset by which LE relies upon to abrogate their unlawful acts.

That situation was not that intense and just cuz the cops say it was does not make it so. I wonder what those cops conducting the "armed entry" thought when four shots rang out.

Are some in LE starting to act as does their theatrical counterparts in television and film.

You didn't bother to read the media reports of the incident at all? Did you? The approached the suspect AFTER the other suspects were in custody, notice them on the curb close to where the dumbarse was approaching?