unrequited
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...government agent was an angry Marine, Police dispatcher told him it was completely legal, management was indifferent because they didn't know store policy.
As I was walking to pay at the Fairfax TJMaxx today (10300 Main St., Fairfax) I was stopped by the manager on duty who was a very nice older woman. She said that there have been complaints about my firearm (I'd been in the store with the g/f for about an hour already) and she'd like me to conceal it because I was breaking the law. I informed her it wasn't against the law, and if I was carrying against store policy I'd gladly leave. She mumbled something and kinda dropped it and walked away to talk to the guy who was complaining.
He was a 250lb jacked up Marine who got pissed when the lady told him whatever she told him. He immediately walks over to me and says, "You know that's illegal, where is your concealed permit?" I said it's not illegal to open carry, it's not against the law, and I have a permit but I'm not going to show you. He then pulled his wallet out, showed me a Marine identification card and said "I'm a government agent, let me see your identification and permit" (I doubt he was anything more than an enlisted guy or an officer at most, neither of which have jurisidction to demand ID. I told him I wasn't going to show him anything, and if he'd like to get an officer involved I'd be happy to wait around. He stormed about 10 feet away and called 911. He took off right after (of course).
I talked to the manager again, explaining the law of firearm carry to her and asking again if it was against policy and if it was, I'd gladly leave before paying for my stuff and my g/f's. She said honestly she wasn't sure about store policy and said she wasn't asking me to leave. I left my phone # and name and asked her to call me after she talked to corporate, and she said she would. I told her I was going to wait outside for the responding officer (just in case, and to clear things up).
About 25 mins later, nobody showed up, so I called the non-emergency line, explained I was open carrying and someone called on me, and asked if an officer was dispatched. He said no, he was the person who fielded the original call and made sure to ask whether or not I was brandishing or acting dangerously in any other fashion. After the guy begrudgingly said no, he said he told the caller that it was fully legal and well within my rights. I thanked him for his time and left to smiles and a good feeling that this is the way things should be.
I was just a little miffed that the Marine lied "pulled rank" to try and intimidate me, and then left in a huff leaving me with the impression that an officer had been dispatched. Ah well, a win's a win. I'll post back when I hear from the manager back about store policy.
...government agent was an angry Marine, Police dispatcher told him it was completely legal, management was indifferent because they didn't know store policy.
As I was walking to pay at the Fairfax TJMaxx today (10300 Main St., Fairfax) I was stopped by the manager on duty who was a very nice older woman. She said that there have been complaints about my firearm (I'd been in the store with the g/f for about an hour already) and she'd like me to conceal it because I was breaking the law. I informed her it wasn't against the law, and if I was carrying against store policy I'd gladly leave. She mumbled something and kinda dropped it and walked away to talk to the guy who was complaining.
He was a 250lb jacked up Marine who got pissed when the lady told him whatever she told him. He immediately walks over to me and says, "You know that's illegal, where is your concealed permit?" I said it's not illegal to open carry, it's not against the law, and I have a permit but I'm not going to show you. He then pulled his wallet out, showed me a Marine identification card and said "I'm a government agent, let me see your identification and permit" (I doubt he was anything more than an enlisted guy or an officer at most, neither of which have jurisidction to demand ID. I told him I wasn't going to show him anything, and if he'd like to get an officer involved I'd be happy to wait around. He stormed about 10 feet away and called 911. He took off right after (of course).
I talked to the manager again, explaining the law of firearm carry to her and asking again if it was against policy and if it was, I'd gladly leave before paying for my stuff and my g/f's. She said honestly she wasn't sure about store policy and said she wasn't asking me to leave. I left my phone # and name and asked her to call me after she talked to corporate, and she said she would. I told her I was going to wait outside for the responding officer (just in case, and to clear things up).
About 25 mins later, nobody showed up, so I called the non-emergency line, explained I was open carrying and someone called on me, and asked if an officer was dispatched. He said no, he was the person who fielded the original call and made sure to ask whether or not I was brandishing or acting dangerously in any other fashion. After the guy begrudgingly said no, he said he told the caller that it was fully legal and well within my rights. I thanked him for his time and left to smiles and a good feeling that this is the way things should be.
I was just a little miffed that the Marine lied "pulled rank" to try and intimidate me, and then left in a huff leaving me with the impression that an officer had been dispatched. Ah well, a win's a win. I'll post back when I hear from the manager back about store policy.