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Whooooooaaaaa. Easy there, Gun Powder. Settle down just a bit. And before you tell me to think, do a little bit yourself.
"Like every Open Carrier here, that abides by the law to the letter (California UOC anyone?) knows that it will cause them to be harassed, therefore they meet in numbers.
kwik does it by himself, and he is a "poopyhead"."
No, he's a poopyhead because he's going to make it harder to pass pro-gun legislation in this state. They're already using him as an example all over the state. You can open carry and make a positive statement like the folks in California at Starbucks, etc. or you can specifically go out trying to get a rise out of people.
"No you aren't. IF you were an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, you would realize what "in the end" it entails."
First, just because you said I'm not an advocate of open or concealed carry, doesn't make it so. I carry every single day. Everywhere it's legal. You don't know that because you don't know me. So, you're wrong. Sorry 'bout that.
I know exactly what it entails. But since you seem to know something I don't, I'm all ears. Please enlighten me on what I'm missing.
And slow IS an attention seeking asshat. Everyone in this area knows it. He was not simply exercising his rights, which I support, he was doing it knowing full well that it would end up in a confrontation. I support his right to do so, and the officers were wrong. But that doesn't mean he isn't an attention seeker. It doesn't mean he wasn't doing it with the intent to rub in the noses of LEO's his knowledge of the letter of the law. But being right on all counts doesn't mean you aren't looking for trouble.
And being right while you're being an asshat is not good for public opinion. Just because you're right, doesn't mean someone won't use it as ammunition to take that right away. That's my only concern, and it's the primary concern of the pro-gun community in the state of Tennessee. He's not helping us.
"This type of action is a gun owner "looking for trouble" eh? I wonder if that's what all the African-Americans thought on Rosa Parks bus.
"Hey b*#$@ get to the back and shut up, you are stirring up a hornets nest by being a human being!". Right?"
Wow. So now Lenny is the next Rosa Parks? Well at least you're not overstating it.
"Take your "social acceptable" and firmly place it where the sun doesn't shine!"
You're just full of folksy wisdom, aren't you? Does the term "e-thug" mean anything to you?
I didn't say anything about carrying being socially unacceptable and I stand by all my former statements. Don't try and put words in my mouth.
"OH NO NOT ONE, BUT TWO, TWWWOOO .44 MAGNUMS? Oh Dear Me!
You mean like the guy from Oregon City who had two revolvers on his hips and was harassed by law enforcement? You mean that like that guy, who was doing NOTHING WRONG, and got placed on the ground and had a AR15 pointed at him?"
No. Nothing like that. That guy wasn't going out with the express intent of rubbing in the noses of LEO's and the public his rights. He was simply chilling. In that example, and Lenny's, the LEO's were wrong. But the sad fact is, both sides can be wrong.
"Despite being legal, and overall *right*, it is best to yield or give up your rights when it is not deemed socially acceptable"
Right?
Then take your firearm off your hip.
Put your concealed carry firearm away.
Take your guns and turn them in to the nearest law enforcement agency.
When you have done all this, then you can still not infringe on kwiks rights, because you think it may scare sheeple.
Sound good? Bellissimo!
You have a lot of critical thinking that you (and some others) need to apply to their lives before bashing other law abiding citizens.
Didn't you offer to go join the Brady bunch? What's holdin ya back?"
Brilliant rebuttal. I see that argument and raise you an "I'm rubber you're glue." Top that!
And while you're at it, show me one time where I suggested he should give up his rights. Or that anyone should. Just one. Come on, you can do it, right?
The fact is, there is more at stake than one man's rights. And he is messing with mine, and I take offense at that. I really don't care who's scared and who's not. I carry regardless of whether somebody is scared. But I don't paint the tip of my AK orange so I can pretend it's a toy and take a stroll through the park and then act surprised, shocked, and offended when somebody freaks out. I know it's gonna happen. He knew it was gonna happen. You know it's gonna happen. It's like jumping off a 10 story building then acting surprised that there's a sudden stop at the bottom.
There's a not-so-fine line between being an advocate, and being a zealot. You and Lenny have both crossed that line, and I am trying to encourage you both to come back over. Or you can stay over there and counter arguments by telling my to shove something up my ass. Or maybe you'll step up your game a notch and make a penis reference, which is always a slam dunk, game-winning shot.
