Oregan Swat raid man who was fired and bought firearms..

[boredstudent]

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PavePusher wrote:

"a Heckler & Koch .45-caliber universal self-loading handgun"



What the heck is a "universal self-loading handgun"?



And people wonder why I think reporters/editors are second only to lawyers as bottom of the pile pond scum....:banghead:



No offence to the lawyers and reporters on this forum, of course... :celebrate

You have to love context. Like the age old example. If I have a ruger 10/22 with 25rd clip, my sig p226 with 15rd mags (you know STANDARD). I just went to wal-mart and bought 2 boxes of .22LR Federal that come 550rd. and for kicks commifornia legal AR15 with 10rd nondetachable magazine and no ammo for it.

"during a traffic stop, police found a man with several weapons having high capacity magazines, including a military assault rifle. Along with over 1000 rounds of ammunition."

Now most of us would notice that it was 2 boxes of ammo, and granted you can kill with .22lr it really doesn't have the power of .223 but hey, lol even the facts can be manipulated.

 

[simmonsjoe]

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jwidman wrote:

"Instead of being reactive, we took a proactive approach," OSP Sgt. Jeff Proulx said.

It's not your ******* place to be proactive. By definition you are reactive. You just did something outside of the scope of your office. Giving it a fancy name doesn't change @#$% into roses.

 

[Sonora Rebel]

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AbNo wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

I own a 24 year old Norinco Type 56 S-1.Enough time forit to aquire certain egonomic an functionalfeatures that send the Bradyites into a tiz. I call it an 'AK"... 'cause nobody knows what a Type 56 S-1 is.

Type-56: Chinese Made.

The Chinese are about the only people to use the "Type" descriptor for their rifles.

Type-81, Type-95 (QBZ95), Type 56, Type 63, Type 86S, Type 88,

See also: Type 54 pistol,

Also, Norinco is a commonly-known maker of Chinese knock-offs.

Norinco (North China Industries) was the manufacturer of my 7.62 x 54mm Type 56 carbine (Russian model SKS)... formerly in custody of the Viet Cong (NLF). Their triangle logo is stamped on the breech. It's previous owner unknowingly bequeathed it to me in 1971. The Type 54 pistol was known as the K-54.Norinco makes good stuff.

 

[hansen]

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maybe they should not return

 

[Interceptor_Knight]

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Sonora Rebel wrote:

AbNo wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

I own a 24 year old Norinco Type 56 S-1.Enough time forit to aquire certain egonomic an functionalfeatures that send the Bradyites into a tiz. I call it an 'AK"... 'cause nobody knows what a Type 56 S-1 is.

Type-56: Chinese Made.

The Chinese are about the only people to use the "Type" descriptor for their rifles.

Type-81, Type-95 (QBZ95), Type 56, Type 63, Type 86S, Type 88,

See also: Type 54 pistol,

Also, Norinco is a commonly-known maker of Chinese knock-offs.

Norinco (North China Industries) was the manufacturer of my 7.62 x 54mm Type 56 carbine (Russian model SKS)... formerly in custody of the Viet Cong (NLF). Their triangle logo is stamped on the breech. It's previous owner unknowingly bequeathed it to me in 1971. The Type 54 pistol was known as the K-54.Norinco makes good stuff.

Norinco did not make your SKS. (they did not exist in the 1950s and 1960s) The Chinese armory which made your SKS is stamped on your receiver. What are the numbers in the triangle? The triangle is not a "logo".

 

[Sonora Rebel]

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Interceptor_Knight wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

AbNo wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

I own a 24 year old Norinco Type 56 S-1.Enough time forit to aquire certain egonomic an functionalfeatures that send the Bradyites into a tiz. I call it an 'AK"... 'cause nobody knows what a Type 56 S-1 is.

Type-56: Chinese Made.

The Chinese are about the only people to use the "Type" descriptor for their rifles.

Type-81, Type-95 (QBZ95), Type 56, Type 63, Type 86S, Type 88,

See also: Type 54 pistol,

Also, Norinco is a commonly-known maker of Chinese knock-offs.

Norinco (North China Industries) was the manufacturer of my 7.62 x 54mm Type 56 carbine (Russian model SKS)... formerly in custody of the Viet Cong (NLF). Their triangle logo is stamped on the breech. It's previous owner unknowingly bequeathed it to me in 1971. The Type 54 pistol was known as the K-54.Norinco makes good stuff.

Norinco did not make your SKS. (they did not exist in the 1950s and 1960s) The Chinese armory which made your SKS is stamped on your receiver. What are the numbers in the triangle? The triangle is not a "logo".

The number is 86.

 

[Interceptor_Knight]

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Sonora Rebel wrote:

Interceptor_Knight wrote:

What are the numbers in the triangle? The triangle is not a "logo".

The number is 86.

That code I have never seen. I have seen 36, 56 and 96 2 digit codes ending in 6. There are quite a few 2 and 3 digit codes within a triangle designating factory of production for Chinese SKS rifles.

 

[Boogaloo]

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This is wrong on so many levels...and it isn't just a "gun issue"...it's a civil rights issue. The PD violated not only the federal Constitution but the Oregon Constitution as well along with numerous federal and state laws.

Sounds like "Minority Report" and the Department of Pre-Crime...

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

This guy has hit a lawsuit jackpot.

 

[Boogaloo]

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kwikrnu wrote:

altajava wrote:

When has a PD ever returned firearms in 24 hours, in any situation, much less a situation that was described in the original article.

I think itis something special fora department to return guns w/o a court order.I would guess theyusually make it as hard as they can.

To me, this is an indication of the PD knowing how badly they screwed up and how deep the doo is.


About the HK "self-loading" pistol...mine must be broken. I've had mine sitting right beside a box of ammo for several days now and it hasn't loaded not one single bullet.

 

[Master Doug Huffman]

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Boogaloo wrote:

About the HK "self-loading" pistol...mine must be broken. I've had mine sitting right beside a box of ammo for several days now and it hasn't loaded not one single bullet.

Ya gotta pull the trigger. Ya gotta be smarter than the machine and a gun is dumb.

 

[Sonora Rebel]

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Interceptor_Knight wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

Interceptor_Knight wrote:

What are the numbers in the triangle? The triangle is not a "logo".

The number is 86.

That code I have never seen. I have seen 36, 56 and 96 2 digit codes ending in 6. There are quite a few 2 and 3 digit codes within a triangle designating factory of production for Chinese SKS rifles.

The triangle on my 'AK' (56 S-1) is smaller but contains the number '66'. It's exported by Norinco (their logo is also on the receiver). I'vd found nothing on the '86' armory designation anywhere. All the part numbers match but the receiver... which seems to be standard practice.Whatever the case...my Type 56made it's way into IV Corps (Mekong Delta region) to a point along the Bassac River 'bout 25 miles west of Can Tho whereupon it was forciblyliberated.

 

[Interceptor_Knight]

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Sonora Rebel wrote:

Whatever the case...my Type 56made it's way into IV Corps (Mekong Delta region) to a point along the Bassac River 'bout 25 miles west of Can Tho whereupon it was forciblyliberated.

Actual bring backs are definitely rare and nice representatives of history...

 

[Sonora Rebel]

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Interceptor_Knight wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

Whatever the case...my Type 56made it's way into IV Corps (Mekong Delta region) to a point along the Bassac River 'bout 25 miles west of Can Tho whereupon it was forciblyliberated.

Actual bring backs are definitely rare and nice representatives of history...

I've got the war trophy paper from the Army ( MACV Can Tho)that verifies it as a captured enemy weapon. I have no idea what it's worth these days. I've never 'cleaned it up'... or modified it in any way.

 

[GLOCK21GB]

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Sonora Rebel wrote:

Interceptor_Knight wrote:

Sonora Rebel wrote:

Whatever the case...my Type 56made it's way into IV Corps (Mekong Delta region) to a point along the Bassac River 'bout 25 miles west of Can Tho whereupon it was forciblyliberated.

Actual bring backs are definitely rare and nice representatives of history...

I've got the war trophy paper from the Army ( MACV Can Tho)that verifies it as a captured enemy weapon. I have no idea what it's worth these days. I've never 'cleaned it up'... or modified it in any way.

I have a friend that did 3 tours with MACV . Hardcore.

 

[Teddybearfrmhell]

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http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100319/OPINION/3190317/-1/NEWSMAP



i wonder if the police chief, the sheriff and the head of the state police barracks are feeling persecuted? feeling disgruntled? feeling like the entire world is watching them? are they a threat to themselves or others? do they have firearms? maybe they need to be watched and evaluated?

 

[slowfiveoh]

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Teddybearfrmhell wrote:

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100319/OPINION/3190317/-1/NEWSMAP



i wonder if the police chief, the sheriff and the head of the state police barracks are feeling persecuted? feeling disgruntled? feeling like the entire world is watching them? are they a threat to themselves or others? do they have firearms? maybe they need to be watched and evaluated?

The citizens of Medford should mobilize a special operations posse comprised of former military and LEO veterans to raid the Medford Police Department, seizing department firearms and arresting Medford PD Officers for immediate referral to psych evaluation under the legitimate concern that law enforcement individuals may further invade individuals homes on warrantless search and seizure operations.

Maybe not.

But what if?

How many Law Enforcement officers violated their oath during said operation?

Isn't that a good question?

 

[hopnpop]

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Something else that pisses me off about this whole thing... Theman committed no crime, was arrested, property seized, etc....

But to make matters worse, the media has violated his right to privacy by telling everyone who can read not only about the guns he had just purchased, but also guns he'd owned prior to this! I don't let people know how many guns I have in the house and I'd be pretty pissed if I'd committed no crime and yet the media decided to list, in print, all the guns I have. That's nobody's damn business! Now my house is a much more likely target, with everyone knowing there's a cache of weapons in it!

Every aspect of this stinks to high heaven. Remember, proactive means you don't have to break any law to be arrested and have your property seized. W. T. F?

 

[kwikrnu]

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hopnpop wrote:

Something else that pisses me off about this whole thing... Theman committed no crime, was arrested, property seized, etc....
Every aspect of this stinks to high heaven. Remember, proactive means you don't have to break any law to be arrested and have your property seized. W. T. F?

This is happening all across the US. It isn't isolated.:celebrate

One of the reasons given to suspend my handgun carry permit was that I had been banned from an internetpuppy forum.

 

[hopnpop]

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kwikrnu wrote:

hopnpop wrote:

Something else that pisses me off about this whole thing... Theman committed no crime, was arrested, property seized, etc....
Every aspect of this stinks to high heaven. Remember, proactive means you don't have to break any law to be arrested and have your property seized. W. T. F?

This is happening all across the US. It isn't isolated.:celebrate

One of the reasons given to suspend my handgun carry permit was that I had been banned from an internetpuppy forum.

:what: ...banned from an internet puppy forum = denied pistol permit?! WTF? I know it's not an isolated incident, I hear and read these stories all the time that devulge information as to what guns a person had in his house. At least most of the time some type of crime had been committed. This is horse sheeot. After persuing legal action against the PD, I'd be following up with action against whomever had put, in public print, a list of my personal posessions. I swear, nothing's sacred anymore.

 

[eye95]

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My Bravo Sierra detector is going crazy.

My best guess? A threat of physical violence resulted in a ban and a call to the local LEO's. Upon verification, I wouldn't blame the sheriff one iota for yanking the permit!