ndboost
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preemptively I'd like to say, I dont currently own a hand gun and the purpose of this thread was mostly to answer some questions I have regarding specific scenarios i've witnessed on youtube and in other states.
been watching those crazy videos of markedguardian OCing in oregon. For those who do not know who he is, he is a law abiding citizen which is exercising his rights by OCing a semi-auto rifle and usually a handgun of some sort as well. Each video i watch he usually tells the LEOs "I do not consent to a search of my body or firearms". Yet in some of the videos the LEO still removes the firearm and inspects it, etc.
I understand for the purpose of safety an AZ LEO has the right to detain a firearm. But is this only with probable cause first?
For example
lets say joe shmoe is walking down mill avenue OCing a handgun. He's not breaking any laws he's of age and has no felonies or any other means to consider him a "Prohibited Possessor", being quiet and content. LEOs spot Mr. Shmoe and decide to see what he's up to (which i doubt most LEOs would do here in AZ).. Do they have a right to then detain his gun and "search/inspect" it for the duration of the conversation? Or would they have to have probable cause first?
I personally wouldn't have a problem rendering my firearm to the LEO, but getting constantly harassed as I OC would get quite old..
I'm sure this scenario is very specific and will probably be hard to answer, was more looking for opinions and discussion on this but actual first-hand experiences from az LEOs or fellow OC'ers would be cool too.
been watching those crazy videos of markedguardian OCing in oregon. For those who do not know who he is, he is a law abiding citizen which is exercising his rights by OCing a semi-auto rifle and usually a handgun of some sort as well. Each video i watch he usually tells the LEOs "I do not consent to a search of my body or firearms". Yet in some of the videos the LEO still removes the firearm and inspects it, etc.
I understand for the purpose of safety an AZ LEO has the right to detain a firearm. But is this only with probable cause first?
For example
lets say joe shmoe is walking down mill avenue OCing a handgun. He's not breaking any laws he's of age and has no felonies or any other means to consider him a "Prohibited Possessor", being quiet and content. LEOs spot Mr. Shmoe and decide to see what he's up to (which i doubt most LEOs would do here in AZ).. Do they have a right to then detain his gun and "search/inspect" it for the duration of the conversation? Or would they have to have probable cause first?
I personally wouldn't have a problem rendering my firearm to the LEO, but getting constantly harassed as I OC would get quite old..
I'm sure this scenario is very specific and will probably be hard to answer, was more looking for opinions and discussion on this but actual first-hand experiences from az LEOs or fellow OC'ers would be cool too.