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Oh the Irony

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buster81 wrote:
bohdi wrote:
Open call to the Mods - the usefulness of this thread has run it's course. The OP's original link no longer works. Kill this thread.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=273304858807&ref=search&sid=1237878229.975446857..1

This link should work for those interested in wasting their time. They have link to all the false "gun show loophole" groups.

Thanks, b81.

Although why bohdi would call for a lock of a thread because a link in an OP didn't work anymore is beyond me. Must be new double secret rule he created...
 

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I don't create rules, I merely offer suggestions to resolve certain situations based upon the information I have available at that time.

Of course, none of that changes my stance. Colin is still being exploited, and therefore is still a puppet. I would be saying the same thing if he was suddenly pro-gun and a member of the NRA.....
 

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bohdi wrote:
I don't create rules, I merely offer suggestions to resolve certain situations based upon the information I have available at that time.
It's a rather odd suggestion to lock a thread because the link in the OP is not working. (Especially when other links easily retrieve the page.)

It lays bare your motive of censorship. Not surprising, though.People with weak arguments always resort to attempted censorship.




bohdi wrote:
Of course, none of that changes my stance. Colin is still being exploited, and therefore is still a puppet. I would be saying the same thing if he was suddenly pro-gun and a member of the NRA.....

You still have not supported your claim, your "stance,"that Goddard is being exploited.

"Exploited"--How? And by whom?

I challenge the presumption in your "stance." And therefore, your conclusion.

Whatcha got, bohdi?
 

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marshaul wrote:
What does the so-called GSLH have to do with the VT massacre?

Exactly. The answer is nothing, of course. Cho got his background check.

Or, to use Hank's phrasing, he was qualified to buy a gun.

And any fool who campaigns against self defense is worthy of scorn, regardless of how many times he got shot. He didn't take any bullets for me, and he is now working at cross-purposes to my liberty, so I owe him nothing. Whatever sympathy he deserved he squandered when he lined up against freedom.

I agree with you, Hank, let's not lock the thread. It's just getting good.
 

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HankT wrote:
bohdi wrote:
I don't create rules, I merely offer suggestions to resolve certain situations based upon the information I have available at that time.
It's a rather odd suggestion to lock a thread because the link in the OP is not working. (Especially when other links easily retrieve the page.)

It lays bare your motive of censorship. Not surprising, though.People with weak arguments always resort to attempted censorship.




bohdi wrote:
Of course, none of that changes my stance. Colin is still being exploited, and therefore is still a puppet. I would be saying the same thing if he was suddenly pro-gun and a member of the NRA.....

You still have not supported your claim, your "stance,"that Goddard is being exploited.

"Exploited"--How? And by whom?

I challenge the presumption in your "stance." And therefore, your conclusion.

Whatcha got, bohdi?

Alright we'll keep it simple. I couldn't access FB at the time, hence I suspected the link no longer worked. I tried two computers. A logical assumption.

Stance, statement, theory....fact remains. Colin is being exploited. You aren't that dense to understand why Hank. I challenge you to show how he ISN'T being exploited.
 

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Tomahawk wrote:
And any fool who campaigns against self defense is worthy of scorn, regardless of how many times he got shot. He didn't take any bullets for me, and he is now working at cross-purposes to my liberty, so I owe him nothing. Whatever sympathy he deserved he squandered when he lined up against freedom.
Tomahawk speaks the truth!
 

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He's got a point of view. And he has a legitimate rationale to feel the way he does.
Perhaps if you are so in love with this topic you should create one to discuss it under the general section. Hunter started this thread to talk about the Westfields 32 on FB. You are taking this in another direction that focuses on Colin - who is but one member, instead of focusing on the group as a whole on FB.

That way you can explain what the legitimate rational for Colin to suddenly support more restrictive gun laws, primarily the gun show loop hole, which would havenot prevented him getting shot in the face.

Just so it's clear, I have spoken to Colin before.I've also spoken directly to multiple members of the Westfields 32 group at various different times over the last couple of years. I know that many of these folks are being manipulated because I know who's doing it in the background.

You don't live here and you don't know who the actors are. The others on this board who live here do and are in a better position than you are sir to state the facts. Colin isn't the only puppet by the way. Omar Samaha is too, and there are others.

The truth isn't always pretty and it isn't always painless. That doesn't change the fact that it's the truth.
 

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HankT wrote:
bohdi wrote:
Open call to the Mods - the usefulness of this thread has run it's course. The OP's original link no longer works. Kill this thread.
You might have to be logged into Facebook when you try. I got in a while back. I even posted on the page.
Bohdi,
If you have been banned the page wont load for you. I posted a couple pro-gun posts and got banned, and that is when the link stopped working for me.
Carry On!
 

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DonTreadOnMe wrote:
HankT wrote:
bohdi wrote:
Open call to the Mods - the usefulness of this thread has run it's course. The OP's original link no longer works. Kill this thread.
You might have to be logged into Facebook when you try. I got in a while back. I even posted on the page.
Bohdi,
If you have been banned the page wont load for you. I posted a couple pro-gun posts and got banned, and that is when the link stopped working for me.
Carry On!

From the group that is...not face book itself.
 

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My call to lock the thread, a request really, was premature. I was in a location where I shouldn't have been trying to access FB :) While it hadn't been an issue previously apparently now it might be......anyway, I have been able to access that page.
 

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bohdi wrote:
My call to lock the thread, a request really, was premature. I was in a location where I shouldn't have been trying to access FB :) While it hadn't been an issue previously apparently now it might be......anyway, I have been able to access that page.

Have fun till they kick you out of the group. I exchanged a few posts with a really crazy anti until i got kicked. I think would be great if others did the same. Some of the members of that group I am sure are members simply in support of the victims and it is a shame for them to only be exposed to the anti propaganda.
 

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Haven't bothered. The same puppet masters are behind the Brady and MMM groups as well. I already experienced how far contradicting their views gets. Awfully effective way to run a propoganda effort. Sort of reminds me of China. "What rockets? We don't have no stinking Whoooooooooooosh. Oh, THOSE rockets.........We don't have no stinking rockets."
 

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My God, he got shot four times at the VT massacre!!!
So he knows firsthand what happens when you strip people of the power to defend themselves from evil? And he wants to strip even more people of this power? That doesn't make him legitimate, it makes him among the lowest and most reprehensible of vermin.
 

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Heartless_Conservative wrote:
My God, he got shot four times at the VT massacre!!!
So he knows firsthand what happens when you strip people of the power to defend themselves from evil?  And he wants to strip even more people of this power?  That doesn't make him legitimate, it makes him among the lowest and most reprehensible of vermin.
I'm inclined to agree.

I know of a woman whose boyfriend was murdered and she was shot several times by some thug in a parking garage (robbery "gone wrong"). She later spent serious effort with the Brady Bunch, solicitation donations and new members (this I know from firsthand experience).

The irony of her situation is that there was a police officer right there who saw the whole thing! The officer "happened" to be a female who was uncomfortable and untrained to engage an armed suspect without backup. Result: the couple were shot up while reinforcements were still "en route".

The reality is that you couldn't ask for more luck than having a cop right there when you're attacked. And it still won't do any good!

The only way the Brady Bunch solutions this woman sought as a result of her trauma could ever have prevented what happened to her are in two fantasy-world scenarios: 1: No guns exist, at all (impossible to achieve. The Cold War happened, and now hundreds of millions of black market guns exist. It's too late the change that.) 2. SWAT team on every corner (obviously one cop wasn't enough, so this is the logical extension of the police-for-protection model). Come to think of it, #2 may not be a fantasy, but it sure is a nightmare! I doubt even Brady Bunchers would want that. :uhoh:

The irony of it is that she HAD an agent of that very system she would use to supposedly prevent such crime in the presence of the exact crime of which she was a victim! And that officer did (or was trained to do) nothing!

The irony is that, quite probably the only thing that could have given her boyfriend half a chance of surviving that encounter is not more useless, feel-good laws, but if she or her boyfriend had carried and attempted to use the means to defend themselves - namely, a firearm!

I truly pity how powerless someone who drives themselves to that state of fear and dependency must feel. I'm afraid that, once you're that far down the road of denial and naïvety, there really is no going back. Nobody wants to be wrong, and it takes monumental effort to admit being wrong. Being that wrong, for that long, over something which as defined your life so thoroughly, is something which virtually nobody could ever bring themselves to admit.

I pity her most, not for the horrible crime that happened to her (which is pitiable but in the past), but for where she is today.
 

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I was dumbfounded by the organizer's idiotic comment about being afraid to offend anyone by posting any comment supporting the use of weapons as a deterrent to school schootings.

Something about such comments not being "polite."

Was the perp of the Luby's massacre "polite?"

How about the VT shooter - was he "polite?"

These people just don't get it. They're rather be "polite," and dead, than respond to a shooter'srudeness with similarly rude and deadly, but effective, and life-saving force. "Life-saving," that is, for everyone but the shooter.

It's not about being polite. It's about staying alive. Politeness does nothing to maintain the sanity of the criminally insane.
 
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