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OCDO - MI The Pit Shoot! Get The Day Off NOW!!!

Glock9mmOldStyle

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I see why some children aren't welcome.

My question is actually relevant because I'd like to brink my brothers. 15 & 17.

And if anyone else is thinking of attending from the NE area, maybe we could carpool.

If they showed up with a truck load of cash I'm sure they would be welcome. Okay kidding aside the whole thrust of some "suggested rules" being posted was to let irresponsible people know that this may not be the event for them. If your brothers are responsible, then bring them I say.
 

wrightme

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If they showed up with a truck load of cash I'm sure they would be welcome. Okay kidding aside the whole thrust of some "suggested rules" being posted was to let irresponsible people know that this may not be the event for them. If your brothers are responsible, then bring them I say.
So, the implication is that some that might show up ARE irresponsible? And then someone claims that the responses make the group look bad? Simply WOW.



The OP didn't allude to such as you claim. The OP STATED to not bring children, without reservation to how the 'responsible' parents would make sure such children were not in danger. So, which parents here are the irresponsible ones?



NOTE (I misstated it a bit)
To limit the odds of an accident it is HIGHLY suggest that NO children attend this UNOFFICIAL event.
 
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Glock9mmOldStyle

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So, the implication is that some that might show up ARE irresponsible? And then someone claims that the responses make the group look bad? Simply WOW.



The OP didn't allude to such as you claim. The OP STATED to not bring children, without reservation to how the 'responsible' parents would make sure such children were not in danger. So, which parents here are the irresponsible ones?



NOTE (I misstated it a bit)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suggest

Definition of SUGGEST
transitive verb
1
a obsolete : to seek to influence : seduce b : to call forth : evoke c : to mention or imply as a possibility <suggested that he might bring his family> d : to propose as desirable or fitting <suggest a stroll> e : to offer for consideration or as a hypothesis <suggest a solution to a problem>
2
a : to call to mind by thought or association <the explosion…suggested sabotage — F. L. Paxson> b : to serve as a motive or inspiration for <a play suggested by a historic incident>
— sug·gest·er noun
See suggest defined for English-language learners »
See suggest defined for kids »
Examples of SUGGEST

We suggested to the committee that they review the case again.
It was suggested that we leave early.
He suggested several different ways of dealing with the problem.
Who would you suggest for the job?
They suggested a restaurant we might want to try.
I suggest caution in a situation like this.
The evidence suggests arson as the cause of the fire.
There is nothing to suggest that the two events are connected.
As the name suggests, a yarn winder is a device used to wind balls of yarn.

Origin of SUGGEST
Latin suggestus, past participle of suggerere to pile up, furnish, suggest, from sub- + gerere to carry
First Known Use: 1526
Related to SUGGEST
Synonyms: allude, imply, indicate, infer, insinuate, intimate, hint
[+]more
Synonym Discussion of SUGGEST
suggest, imply, hint, intimate, insinuate mean to convey an idea indirectly. suggest may stress putting into the mind by association of ideas, awakening of a desire, or initiating a train of thought <a film title that suggests its subject matter>. imply is close to suggest but may indicate a more definite or logical relation of the unexpressed idea to the expressed <measures implying that bankruptcy was imminent>. hint implies the use of slight or remote suggestion with a minimum of overt statement <hinted that she might get the job>. intimate stresses delicacy of suggestion without connoting any lack of candor <intimates that there is more to the situation than meets the eye>. insinuate applies to the conveying of a usually unpleasant idea in a sly underhanded manner <insinuated that there were shady dealings>.

The OP could have "suggested" only super soakers be brought, does that mean it's the law? NO.
 

wrightme

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Sigh.


No sheet sherlock. See where I stated that part? Does that change his meaning to say he would be okay with children present?


the OP said:
is HIGHLY suggest that NO children attend this UNOFFICIAL event.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suggest

Definition of SUGGEST
transitive verb
1
a obsolete : to seek to influence : seduce b : to call forth : evoke c : to mention or imply as a possibility <suggested that he might bring his family> d : to propose as desirable or fitting <suggest a stroll> e : to offer for consideration or as a hypothesis <suggest a solution to a problem>
2
a : to call to mind by thought or association <the explosion…suggested sabotage — F. L. Paxson> b : to serve as a motive or inspiration for <a play suggested by a historic incident>
— sug·gest·er noun
See suggest defined for English-language learners »
See suggest defined for kids »
Examples of SUGGEST

We suggested to the committee that they review the case again.
It was suggested that we leave early.
He suggested several different ways of dealing with the problem.
Who would you suggest for the job?
They suggested a restaurant we might want to try.
I suggest caution in a situation like this.
The evidence suggests arson as the cause of the fire.
There is nothing to suggest that the two events are connected.
As the name suggests, a yarn winder is a device used to wind balls of yarn.

Origin of SUGGEST
Latin suggestus, past participle of suggerere to pile up, furnish, suggest, from sub- + gerere to carry
First Known Use: 1526
Related to SUGGEST
Synonyms: allude, imply, indicate, infer, insinuate, intimate, hint
[+]more
Synonym Discussion of SUGGEST
suggest, imply, hint, intimate, insinuate mean to convey an idea indirectly. suggest may stress putting into the mind by association of ideas, awakening of a desire, or initiating a train of thought <a film title that suggests its subject matter>. imply is close to suggest but may indicate a more definite or logical relation of the unexpressed idea to the expressed <measures implying that bankruptcy was imminent>. hint implies the use of slight or remote suggestion with a minimum of overt statement <hinted that she might get the job>. intimate stresses delicacy of suggestion without connoting any lack of candor <intimates that there is more to the situation than meets the eye>. insinuate applies to the conveying of a usually unpleasant idea in a sly underhanded manner <insinuated that there were shady dealings>.

The OP could have "suggested" only super soakers be brought, does that mean it's the law? NO.
 
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Glock9mmOldStyle

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Sigh.


No sheet sherlock. See where I stated that part? Does that change his meaning to say he would be okay with children present?

Okay I can see you are a "selective reader" the point was it does not matter what the OP suggested - this is public land - so if you want to pack up your family in Nevada in the camper and head out to the pit go for it! As long as you don't break the law it is all good, never mind if it causes a disturbance or not. I look forward to seeing many nice people there. If a couple of Asshats show up that's their issue, not mine and they have a right to use public land too.
 

wrightme

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Okay I can see you are a "selective reader" the point was it does not matter what the OP suggested - this is public land - so if you want to pack up your family in Nevada in the camper and head out to the pit go for it! As long as you don't break the law it is all good, never mind if it causes a disturbance or not. I look forward to seeing many nice people there. If a couple of Asshats show up that's their issue, not mine and they have a right to use public land too.
Um, if "as long as you don't break the law it is all good," applies, what does "never mind if it causes a disturbance or not" mean, wrt the OP?

Is it that children are okay, but they will cause a disturbance?



What does "HIGHLY SUGGEST" mean to you? Talk about selective reader. Is he willing to have an enjoyable day with people and their families or not?
 

wrightme

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The Pit is normally a great place to take your kids shooting. 02 November 2011 from 10am to 3pm will not be one of those times, as there will be many people not only shooting but socializing. If this was purely a shooting or purely a socializing event, It may be a good time to bring the children, but its not. Because there may be times when no one is shooting and the range is "clear", and everyone is standing around talking, or instructing, or showing off there latest "toy", we don't want children to become bored or impatient and do the unthinkable. I understand the chances of this is very very low, and I understand that if you are an OCer that your children more than likely know firearm safety, and know NOT TO TOUCH, but children are slightly more likely to have an accident or become impatient than an adult.

If you want to take your child shooting, I have no problem what so ever with taking them to The Pit, put I respectfully ask that you do not do it on the date listed at the time listed. Please respect these wishes. Thank You!

Seems to me he "respectfully" wants no children there.
 

Glock9mmOldStyle

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Um, if "as long as you don't break the law it is all good," applies, what does "never mind if it causes a disturbance or not" mean, wrt the OP?

Is it that children are okay, but they will cause a disturbance?



What does "HIGHLY SUGGEST" mean to you? Talk about selective reader. Is he willing to have an enjoyable day with people and their families or not?

Maybe it's just that you are not from the area. I cannot speak for the OP. The Pit is exactly that a Pit there are no picnic tables, bathrooms, playground, drinking fountains. clowns tying balloons for the kids, ice cream carts, etc.. So I know it would be difficult to take a three year old there as the nearest bathroom is miles away. The law rules here not suggestions. Isn't that enough for you? I am more than willing to have an enjoyable day with people & their families while exercising the right to bear arms :D
 

wrightme

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Maybe it's just that you are not from the area.
So what?

Glok9mmOldStyle said:
I cannot speak for the OP.
Then why do you keep doing so?
Glock9mmOldStyle said:
The Pit is exactly that a Pit there are no picnic tables, bathrooms, playground, drinking fountains. clowns tying balloons for the kids, ice cream carts, etc.. So I know it would be difficult to take a three year old there as the nearest bathroom is miles away.
Um, what does any of that have to do with this topic?

Glock9mmOldStyle said:
The law rules here not suggestions.
So, what laws are there that folks should be aware of that you (or the OP) may feel applicable?
Glock9mmOldStyle said:
Isn't that enough for you? I am more than willing to have an enjoyable day with people & their families while exercising the right to bear arms :D

So then you do not agree with the OP that you do not "HIGHLY SUGGEST that people not bring children?"


Are minors not allowed to participate in target shooting at the Pit?
 
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wrightme

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I cannot speak for the OP.
Yet you did.....
If they showed up with a truck load of cash I'm sure they would be welcome. Okay kidding aside the whole thrust of some "suggested rules" being posted was to let irresponsible people know that this may not be the event for them. If your brothers are responsible, then bring them I say.
 

lapeer20m

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I am fortunate that the pit is practically in my backyard. I was just there yesterday. I will try to make it to the shoot in November. Choosing a weekday was very smart, as the PIT is near insanity on weekends that close to hunting season.

May i request that each person who comes please bring at least one large trash bag, fill it with garbage from the pit, and take it home with you. Although there is often a pile of garbage near the entrance to the pit, there is no garbage pickup at this location.

I've been to the PIT many many times, and yesterday is the worse i've ever seen it.

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here is a video i took yesterday also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be1XiX1Be8Q
 
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wrightme

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Wrightme - there are some people that aren't happy no matter how truthfully you answer them. Good luck on your mission here.

I know. You still obviously aren't happy.


You either ARE, or AREN'T speaking for the OP.

He either DOES, or DOES NOT want children at the get-together.


The OP opened that can, and it seems to be difficult to close.
 
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