OC at The Belmar, Lakewood

[bomber]

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wthornton0206 wrote:

I OC in dick's all the time. They do have a sign that states that if you are carrying a firearm in for service or otherwise, please notify the customer service desk of your intent to carry in the store. The location i carry at is in Belmar, and the first time I OC'd in there, i followed the sign to the letter. I read it, and promptly walked up to the cashier's desk and stated the following: "I saw your sign regarding firearms needing to be checked in and i am carrying a holstered handgun"

The funny thing was, the MANAGER of the store didn't even know what I was talking about.I think they thought I was going to rob the place, but instead they called the Lodge associate who came in from the front door (he had been outside on break) and all he did was look at my Hi Point .40 JC on my hip and ask if I needed rounds! He told me that most of the new people there don't know the procedures, but that so long as my gun is legal and I notify the front desk, I can carry all i want in store!

That's it! simple as that.

thats cool man. most managers flip out. i have OC'ed in that dicks without a problem.i usually OC in the Dicks in aurora.

since signage doesnt mean squat in Colorado (except of course on publicly owned property, like libraries), i don't look for and i don't read signs about guns. if the manager doesnt want me carrying, i'll let him find me and tell me. otherwise, i carry on. most people don't even notice that i am carrying. so far, not a single issue.

 

[wthornton0206]

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That can be a bad idea to not read or look for the signs. While some signs may not be legal or mean anything, there is always the possibility that you can miss an important one and end up getting a charge. Weighing the risks of getting charged vs. taking 30 seconds to look for and/or read a posted sign, I vote to take the 30 seconds. JMO

 

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wthornton0206 wrote:

That can be a bad idea to not read or look for the signs. While some signs may not be legal or mean anything, there is always the possibility that you can miss an important one and end up getting a charge. Weighing the risks of getting charged vs. taking 30 seconds to look for and/or read a posted sign, I vote to take the 30 seconds. JMO

getting charged with what? i don't carry in the library, or similarly public owned property because the law says i can't. everywhere else is fair game

 

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Trespassing, for one. If a sign is posted and the owner does not like the fact that you ignored it, police could get you for it.

 

[mahkagari]

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wthornton0206 wrote:

Trespassing, for one. If a sign is posted and the owner does not like the fact that you ignored it, police could get you for it.

I agree. Whether the charge is valid or not, it's not worth the hassle. YMMV. I'll shop elsewhere rather than disrespect the property owner with my dirty scary money being carried so close to my firearm.

 

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mahkagari wrote:

wthornton0206 wrote:

Trespassing, for one. If a sign is posted and the owner does not like the fact that you ignored it, police could get you for it.

I agree. Whether the charge is valid or not, it's not worth the hassle. YMMV. I'll shop elsewhere rather than disrespect the property owner with my dirty scary money being carried so close to my firearm.

no way. i need a CRS showing that that's true.

i still say that the bigger hassle is repeatedly avoiding stores because of a sign in the window that holds no legal weight and that half the employees don't even know is there.

 

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bomber wrote:

i still say that the bigger hassle is repeatedly avoiding stores because of a sign in the window that holds no legal weight and that half the employees don't even know is there.

Yep. Like I said, YMMV. We all pick our battles.

Unfortunately, the CRS only counts when getting convicted of something. They don't stop sheeple from telling you it's illegal, or you need a permit, or calling the police for you to take 10 minutes out of valuable time for them to tell you it's legal but they have to "check it out", etc. etc. Personally, day to day I think the odds of having a problem are low. But they increase when there's a sign on the door. Maybe not high enough to make someone decide not to carry, but YMMV.

 

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to me though, i would think that the 10 minutes wasted with a mwag call, or confrontation with a manager is more remote than the time wasted looking for, reading, and deciding a course of action based on a sign.

of course, if asked to leave, i won't put up a fight or argument. i'll just leave. but until that happens, i'm not going out of my way to follow a sign that is not legal in the first place.

but thats just me. to each his own. i can understand why other's would take an alternative approach, i just don't see the utility of it.