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Newcastle Police over stepping their authority - Calls needed!!!

AB

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Newcastle Wyoming, police terrorize family on an alleged barking dog complaint
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...ze-family-on-an-alleged-barking-dog-complaint


VOICE YOUR OUTRAGE!!!

Please call the Newcastle Wyoming Police Department and let them know we are watching them, let them know that we are just waiting to bring them in front of a Jury the next time they abuse their power.

Newcastle Police (307) 746-4486

Newcastle City Hall (307) 746-3535

City Hall email: cityofnewcastle@rtconnect.net

Also call the Newcastle Chamber of Commerce and tell them these actions by the police could cause a loss in tourism dollars.
Newcastle Chamber of Commerce (307) 746-2739
 

BB62

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The "Examiners" credibility has reached about nil
Nice move. You make a statement, and back it up with nothing at all.

Including the post above, the total contribution value of all of your to-date posts remains at -1.

Now where did I put that troll picture?
 

Huck

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"I have stated that the influx of police from out of state has caused similar incidents here in Wyoming. It would appear that these occurrences are happening at a greater rate."

Why are Wyoming PDs hiring cops from out of state? If a LEO's unemplyed it's a safe bet that he/she got fired because of poor job performance or for actions that were embarressing to the department, or both.

Locke needs to be shitcanned. There's no excuse for endangering the public and tyrannical behavior, which is exactly what he did!

IMHO, it's better to have a understaffed PD that has good LEOs than to fill the department out with lamers like Locke.
 

Mjolnir

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Let me get this straight the article is really weak on facts and heavy on emotion playing up the anti gun/anti freedom theme instead of stating objectively what happened.

Police come and knock on your door at 0100

You answer door with gun in hand

Walk outside with gun in hand

Cops draw down on you & disarm you till they figure out what's going on for your and their safety.

What's wrong with this???

The LEO's want to go home alive at the end of the shift.

They have no idea who you are, what drugs you have been doing, how much alcohol you have been drinking and have no idea your mental state at 0100

But they do know they have been dispatched to your house for a complaint and that complaint warrants investigation so they knock on your door

Sounds like the LEO's did nothing wrong, no dogs shot and everybody went home & back to sleep.

Funny how somebody who has no idea what it's like being a LEO has no idea what that target on your chest means and has never walked a foot in your shoes knows so much more than you do......and how you need to do your job better.
 

Mjolnir

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Question – why do these Rambo Cops keep turning up in Wyoming?

Later that same morning at 4am Mr. Schlup went down to the police station to request information about the incident where he was told – “The chief of police will review your request and decide if the request will be granted or not”. Sounds like the blue code of silence to me.


What qualifies this as a "rambo cop" let allone one from "out of state" or is AB just guessing the LEO in question is from "out of state"

Oh and what about the 0400 bulcrap, the incident happened at 011, what even makes you thing anybody is at the police station other than a dispatcher, why would the officer have submitted his report so soon, especially if he was on patrol and not been able to complete the required paperwork.

Big deal the Chief will review it when he comes in in the morning....he's not going to come in at 0400 to hear somebody bitch and cry when nothing happened, nobody got hurt and the dog is safe and sound in bed sleeping....Once the Chief reviews if and you have a answer from him then you either escalate it or not...

But at 0400...that in itself is a joke and reflects on the author of the muckraking story...
 

Mjolnir

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This is where you ask yourself - is Wyoming becoming a police state?

From the town website – “Newcastle Police seek to protect and serve the public through providing the highest level of public safety while protecting the rights and dignity of the public”.


Obviously the author has never been to a real police state, has no idea what a real police state is like & is instead attempting to stir up bad feelings based on emotional reporting instead of facts...

What is the authors political agenda here.....
 

Mjolnir

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Wouldn't you say Officer Greg Locke missed the mark?

I have stated that the influx of police from out of state has caused similar incidents here in Wyoming. It would appear that these occurrences are happening at a greater rate.


How did the officer miss the mark, nobody was hurt, nobody dies, no dogs were turned into supper and everybody went home...

What is the influx of police from out of WY.....

Documented data, not what the author "feels" is going on...reporter report the news, not make it and apply emotional twists to manipulate you to feel how they want you to feel.....

Compared to other jobs and people from out of WY

How many people move into our out of WY....

More LEO jobs are going OUT of state than in state, out of state pays better, has better benefits and more to do than watching grass grow or answering 0100 noise complaints.....
 

Mjolnir

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This all happened because of an alleged barking dog complaint.

Now I don't know where you are from but I've lived all kinds of places with neighbors who dogs bark all night and it is extremly annoying, do you know if anybody contacted the homeowners about the dogs previously, what the LEO's found upon investigation, do you have any idea if they even had any dogs barking or is this just another way to get emotions going...

I've wanted to shoot the neighbors dogs, have talked to them to no avail and got so sick of it at 0200 called the local LEO's....all over stupid humans ignoring and neglecting their dogs....
 

MamaLiberty

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Mjolnir, that's big city cop BS talk. This is a very small town, and there was no hint of any threat to the policeman. He had absolutely no justification for pointing a gun at anyone. Unfortunately, this has been made into a rather stupid emotional circus and I hope we can get rid of that aspect as soon as possible.

We need to build better relationships, bridges, community between all of us who live here. We don't need this Us against Them mentality. We are not the enemy of the police or anyone else. And we will do whatever we can to keep them from becoming our enemies. We ALL want to go home in one piece. Mistakes were made on both sides. We're going to make it our business to communicate and come together on this, if possible.

But that does not mean we will ever stand by meekly while our rights are violated.
 

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When banging on the door (especially for a noise complaint), THEY NEED TO ID THEMSELVES AS THE POLICE! Had they been professional, this would have never happened.
 

Mjolnir

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When banging on the door (especially for a noise complaint), THEY NEED TO ID THEMSELVES AS THE POLICE! Had they been professional, this would have never happened.

How do you know they did not???
 

Mjolnir

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Mjolnir, that's big city cop BS talk. This is a very small town, and there was no hint of any threat to the policeman. He had absolutely no justification for pointing a gun at anyone. Unfortunately, this has been made into a rather stupid emotional circus and I hope we can get rid of that aspect as soon as possible.

If you were a LEO and had any training/background/understanding about what it's like to be a LEO you would have a better understanding about what even small town cops deal with & sometimes it's even worse being a small town cop when compared to a large city.

So you tell me how the LEO's are to act when somebody comes out with a gun, leave them armed without knowing what kind of drugs they are on.

Bang and you have a dead cop.

Take a min to learn what use of force is and how LEO's apply it.

You have a gun, am waving it around after I pound on your door and yell POLICE multiple times...I'm a LEO and it's 0100 you are lucky I did not prone you out on the yard till after finding out what was going on. I am going home at the end of my shift and will not end up in a body bag due to being afraid of hurting somebody's feelings.

Any LEO worth a crap would disarm them & find out what's going on. It's small town paranoia and "freedom" that get's LEO's killed


We need to build better relationships, bridges, community between all of us who live here. We don't need this Us against Them mentality. We are not the enemy of the police or anyone else. And we will do whatever we can to keep them from becoming our enemies. We ALL want to go home in one piece. Mistakes were made on both sides. We're going to make it our business to communicate and come together on this, if possible.

Yes better bridges and trust are needed and yes I'm sure your going t make it your business to get into somebody's face over this when you really don't know what happened, but are all pissed off and emotional about it.

But that does not mean we will ever stand by meekly while our rights are violated.

No rights were violated, no dogs were killed and everybody lived to whine and cry about it..

You want to do something, learn what it's like and put your money where your mouth is...then go to Douglas, enroll in the academy, get your POST certificate and join the local police department...
 

Majorpain

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Newcastle Police over stepping their authority

I've dealt with my fair share of a-hole cop's, and sheriff's here in Riverton but I still have respect for them, working at nights for the casino and seeing some of the people and crap they have to put up with. Just because there are a few bad apples doesn't mean that the whole force is overstepping their authority.

Going by reading the Examiner report and not actually having been there or hearing the LEO's side of the story I would have to agree with Mjolnir %100. I don't see that Officer Greg Locke did anything wrong. Maybe I missed something or the full story hasn't been released. From what I have read though this is the conclusion that I have came up with. I would have done the same If I were in his shoes. Not knowing the condition of the subject (high/drunk) and he comes around the corner with a pistol in his hands? I'm not just gonna stand there and say how do ya do.

I'm not trying to make enemy's on this forum, so if you have a different opinion I can respect that Post it or keep it to yourself, I don't care. I think that for most of us the ultimate goal should be for us to do what we can to keep our freedom's and by practicing such freedom's such as right to bear arms or freedom of speech, so we keep them alive and well.

"The bearing of arms is the essential medium through which the individual asserts both his social power and his participation in politics as a responsible moral being..."
-- J.G.A. Pocock, describing the beliefs of the founders of the U.S.
 

Huck

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Answer this Mjolnir. Officer Locke knocks on the door of a residence. Why didnt he stay at the door to talk to the resident? That's what he was there to do was'nt it?

IMHO, when someone knocks on a door and then moves out of sight of the door that qualifies as suspicious behavior. If a citizen had done so what would you think of that action then?

I also wonder what would've happened had Mrs. Schlup not been present to witness the incident.
 

Mjolnir

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Answer this Mjolnir. Officer Locke knocks on the door of a residence. Why didnt he stay at the door to talk to the resident? That's what he was there to do was'nt it?

IMHO, when someone knocks on a door and then moves out of sight of the door that qualifies as suspicious behavior. If a citizen had done so what would you think of that action then?

I also wonder what would've happened had Mrs. Schlup not been present to witness the incident.

So you are taking the word of a "reporter" who is playing with your emotions and refusing to answer questions on what happened.

How do you know what happened, weer you there, or did you talk to somebody who was there as AB's article sure does not say what happened all it does is play on your emotions and get's you all upset at "the man"
 
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