McCain or Obama

[hsmith]

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Grapeshot wrote:

hsmith wrote:

I am not voting for either of them.

Not voting for either of the primary candidates, is the same as giving your vote to the one you least want to win.

I know that is a bitter pill to swallow but that's the way it works.

Yata hey

If your vote mattered, they wouldn't let you vote.

And honestly, both scare the shit out of me. It is like choosing to jump out of the 31st floor or the 32nd floor, which one will kill you more.

 

[Grapeshot]

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hsmith wrote:

Grapeshot wrote:

hsmith wrote:

I am not voting for either of them.

Not voting for either of the primary candidates, is the same as giving your vote to the one you least want to win.

I know that is a bitter pill to swallow but that's the way it works.

Yata hey

If your vote mattered, they wouldn't let you vote.

And honestly, both scare the @#$% out of me. It is like choosing to jump out of the 31st floor or the 32nd floor, which one will kill you more.

Post 666 - the devil made you do it!
Yata hey

 

[Citizen]

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hsmith wrote:

And honestly, both scare the @#$% out of me.

Said by the person who at this exact instant has a post count of 666.

 

[yeahYeah]

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they both suck...end of story

 

[Grapeshot]

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The local/state elections become even more important under the cloud of the presidential fiasco.

With that in mind, remember the name Ken Cuccinelli for Attorney General.

www.cuccinelli.com


Ken is a strong supporter of 2nd Amendment and self-defense rights.

Yata hey

 

[marshaul]

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deepdiver wrote:

marshaul wrote:

deepdiver wrote:

Just because someone doesn't agree with you Marshaul does not mean that they are stupid, easily manipulated, ignorant, uneducated, uninformed or lacking perspective. 

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

No, no nerve and that wasn't typed in anger.  However, it was an inappropriate response as  I confused you with another member and what I was attributing as a pattern of commentary on your part was actually applicable to another member and I owe you an apology for the above comment in response to your post.  I can well understand why you would have thought you 'hit a nerve" in that such a response to you and your tone of posting would indeed show someone being overly sensitive.

So Marshaul, my apologies for my confusion leading to an inappropriate response to you and for the implication inherent in the comment. 

Still doesn't mean I agree with you though but friends can agree to disagree.

lol, fair enough. On my part, I certainly didn't mean to appear to be attacking anybody here. FWIW, I think your posts are very well thought-out, so I can only assume you live your life the same way. I was just stating a general opinion, as I always do with little reservation.

 

[yo101jimmy]

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This one might have been posted already but I just saw it and yeah let you be the judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO1dIKgfPw&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXoD-n2VhP8&feature=related

 

[jbone]

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McCain is certainly my choice.

Don't like Osama's ideas of no weapons for our countries protection, citizens or military. Don't like the fact he feels its better for our children to learn Spanish then for immigrants to learn English. Don’t like his economic plan that maps the country to certain long term recession and disaster. And I don’t like him and his wife’s anti American campaign and all the anti’s and race haters he associates with.

Just a few reasons for why I choose McCain.

 

[Panos1296]

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Those are reasons to hate Obama, not reasons to like McCain. There are at least 3 others running for president.

 

[jbone]

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Panos1296 wrote:

Those are reasons to hate Obama, not reasons to like McCain. There are at least 3 others running for president.

That's funny! and true.

Who's the three, I hope Clintonthe socialist is not on of them?

 

[Panos1296]

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Bob Barr, the Libertarian will get my vote. Also, there is Ralph Nader, of the Green Party, and the Constitution Partyshould have a candidate.

It seems Bob Barr is a Ron Paul fan now, at least by this statement, taken from the GOA website:

Barr himself -- when introducing the staunch pro-gunner, Ron Paul, at the Conservative Political Action Conference this past February -- told the cheering delegates that, "If there was ever, ever any doubt in my mind ... about how to vote on a particular bill, the answer was easy ... you see where Ron Paul stands on an issue, and you know that's the right place to be."[suP]10[/suP]

 

[Slayer of Paper]

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Froma strictly 2A standpoint, Obama is definitely the worse choice.

McCain has said he would be in favor of "closing the gun show loophole". (I wish people would educate themselves before talking out their ass.)

But I'm absolutely certain that Obama would try to bring back the Assault Weapons ban, this time without a sunset provision -and he would succeed. I don't think he'd try to get the 2A repealed- at least not until his second term...

McCain is no friend to gun owners, but if Obama is elected, particularly with a heavily democratic congress, the right to keep and bear arms is going to suffer heavy losses.

 

[Prophet]

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Panos1296 wrote:

Those are reasons to hate Obama, not reasons to like McCain. There are at least 3 others running for president.

Untrue. There are 2 people running for president and at least 3 others making a point.

The last time we had more than 2 people running for president was in 1992 when ross perot ran.

 

[Tnrebel]

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Prophet wrote:

Being a libertarian myself i hate not voting for the libertarian ticket as i have done previously. But with 2 of the most liberal judges on the Supreme court pushing 80+ i have to ask myself, who will hurt us less? The answer is McCain. We may not get the gun toting absolutist freedom loving justices that we may want on the Court...but we wont get gun grabbing socialists that Obama will put there.

If you want to vote libertarian do it on the local level and build the party. To vote for the Republican running on the Libertarian ticket is truly a wasted vote. Back libertarian mayors, and council members, and congressmen who can win instead of cutting your nose to spite your face on the presidential elections. If obama wins we all lose...if mccain wins we will at least hold fast until the storm passes until we get a true champion of the 2A...like Jindal...the next VP of the United States.

+1 Prophet , Now is not the time to vote other then to keep Obama out of the white house, in a nut shell he has to much baggage, and is flipping all over the place ,even here on the space coast of Florida , about 6 months ago he said he would cut the space program to fund his geto funds ,now he says he will extend it till the new shuttle fly's , go figure . But now is not the time I am changing to libertarian, but not till this is over with and have time to build at the base of the gowhackgo Gov. we have now. JMHO
:cuss::banghead:

 

[Prometheus]

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Both mcAmensty and nobama want amnesty for illegals. 26 million + new liberal democrat voters in 2012 make it irrelevant which one of them wins.

For that reason alone I have no problem voting third party.

never before has it mattered so little which candidate wins. Both will be a disaster for this country and for those of you living in La-La land mcAmnesty will find it much easier to pass more gun control than nobama.

Those of you voting for mcAmnesty are doing nothing more than pee'ing into the wind and pretending it's raining. It doesn't matter.

Best hope is to elect conservative congressmen to make either of them a lame duck and #2 to vote third party and send a strong message to the GOP that we will no longer tollerate these liberal scumbag candidates they keep forcing upon us.

No more lessor of two evils. I have morals and convictions.

I also find it ironic that the same people wanting mcAmnesty out on his rear end just a few months ago can now back this traitor. You people called john kerry a flip-flopper? Truly pathetic.

 

[SlackwareRobert]

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Lets see...

McCain-- Doubled SS taxes
Reinstituted Civil rights for another 30 years, but only on the South not his state.
Is outraged when a search warrent is served on Jefferson.
Is against Isreal defending itself.
Is Mexico's #2 guy, (behind Kennedy)
Is against Gun ownership.
Is against free speach
Is 100% for the majority of pork spending (he could stop it but doesn't)
Thinks an admitted racist (RBG) is ok on the SCOTUS.
Has no problem with fellow senetors committing Purgury.
Is against drilling.
What is he for....
Flag burning amendment (as if we need more amendment to be misinterpreded)
The ONLY amendment needed is to alow us to civily sue SCOTUS justices
when they make up laws. Let 12 people decide if they faked a ruling and hit them
with fines.

As for Mitt Romney VP, he may be a good business man, but when in a government
setting he goes all out waste and spend. No way.


Obama
(Can't decide between Hitler, or Stalin wannabee)


I was looking forward to flying the russian flag during Hillery's reign, but alas
she bombed out.

Niether will get my vote, I agree with Ron Paul, but also would have turned out
for Alan Keys, He also understands that the branches are equal, and it is
the executives job to right the SCOTUS wrongs.


If you realy want to get your moneys worth and send a message.....

Write in a candidates name on ballot. This lets you see if your vote is counted,
makes them do it by hand, not rigged electronics.
Even if you want one of the crooked two, write them in. My polsters
hate when I advocate this as they are stuck counting.
Throw a wrench in the works of the rigged two party sytem they set up.

 

[S.E.WI]

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http://www.doncordellforpresident.com/

Here is a write-in worth looking at.

 

[scorpioajr]

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AWDstylez wrote:

colormered wrote:

Obama has stated that he doesn't think anyone should be allowed to own a gun. (The only way to enforce this is confiscation).

McCain proposed a bill that would effectively shut down all gun shows.

So, to reword the question, would you prefer a president that wants to take away all your gun rights, or one that only wants to take away some of them?

.....but McCain is all about the NAU and that'll be the end to your entire constitution....

Thats like the 50th time i have heard the term NAU (North American Union), is this just something were not worried about? I don't see it in the news or in papers. When i search on the internet for it, i feel like i always enter the tin-foil hat pages...

..anyone KNOW?

 

[like_the_roman]

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ProtectedBy9mm wrote:

Thats like the 50th time i have heard the term NAU (North American Union), is this just something were not worried about? I don't see it in the news or in papers. When i search on the internet for it, i feel like i always enter the tin-foil hat pages...

..anyone KNOW?

From the advocates themselves:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/

 

[Guest]

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