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bugly

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so these idiots are trying to say it will be much safer to allow bullies to roam free in the schools, it is not safe to exercise your rights and that there is a direct correlation between the lawful carry of firearms and becoming a doctor?
where are these idiots when it comes to people having children without "proper training", or owning a house, or things of that nature?
the whole thing is ridiculous, they're probably the same kids (yes, kids) who go outside, off campus and smoke dope at lunchtime, even though that's a violation of federal law (but that's different to them...) and dream up this kind of nonsense.
the facts remain that before all this "gun control" b.s., there were very few incidents involving firearms and innocent victims. it has only been since the "regulation" by the government that there have been serious problems with them.
Same thing happened when the government outlawed alcohol, there was a rise in crime directly related to that commodity. then the "war on drugs", guess who's winning that one?
of course, there is one final possibility as to why the government wants to control firearms; it is because an unarmed populous needs the government to protect them and that government can do whatever they please to the citizens (subjects) when they can't fight back.
personally, i think it's an abomination that they are brainwashing our children to believe they will be safer if only the government has the power...
 

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My comments probably won't get approved either. Gotta love how they disabled ratings on 2/3 of them, and the 1/3 that didn't have it's rating disabled is at 1 star.

Edit: Went and took a look at their website. Example of it is a description of the Virginia Tech shooting, and that "nobody should have to go through this" for why they want a gun free school zone. Somehow, I think they missed the point...
 

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Those have gotto be the most ridiculus videos I've ever seen. :?

Utah has allowed openand concealed carry in schools for over five years now.

Anybody ever hear of a school shooting in Utah?
 

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The bully one seemed to me to be pro carry. Although, I simply don't believe that a fight would start that easily among college students. Nearly all college students are out to better themselves, not get expelled over accidentally bumping into someone.
 

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Typical anti's exibitingemotionally driven fear mongering. No facts provided, no logical arguments made. Just making a mockery of rights and the ability and responsibility of self defense.
 

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I gather the author of those videos has never actually been outside of the high school it looks like they were filmed in.

Back in reality, I have been to university, and it's a place occupied by adults, not children. Or maybe that just says something about where he goes to school?
 

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SGT Jensen wrote:
Those have got to be the most ridiculus videos I've ever seen.  :?

Utah has allowed open and concealed carry in schools for over five years now.

Anybody ever hear of a school shooting in Utah?
OC, huh? For some reason I had the impression everybody CCed on campus in Utah.

I'd sure love to OC in class. More comfortable. :)

Then again, I'd be happy to be able to carry in class at all. :banghead:
 

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marshaul wrote:
Back in reality, I have been to university, and it's a place occupied by adults, not children. Or maybe that just says something about where he goes to school?
I'll debate that :? It's like a 50/50 mixture where I'm at...
 

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marshaul wrote:
I gather the author of those videos has never actually been outside of the high school it looks like they were filmed in.

Back in reality, I have been to university, and it's a place occupied by adults, not children. Or maybe that just says something about where he goes to school?

100% agree. That Bully videoseriously reminds me of some high school punk that needs to grow up a LOT. I go to UNR and everyone there is friendly and has no issues. We're all there for the same reason, expanding out education. 99.9% of the time, bumping shoulders or accidentally bumping someone's books out of thier hands doesn't happen, and IF... I repeat, IF it does, everyone involved and around is polite about it... appologizes, helps pick it all up, and says "have a good day." I honestly don't understand why people think that college students aren't responsibe.... the "style" of people they try to portray in these videos are the ones that don't ever think about going to college or don't make it into college because they're dirtbags that would rather go on some egotistical macho rant and put someone else down than better themselves by getting an education. Not to even mention the fact that the people who would be carrying on campus ALREADY have a CCW permit OUTSIDE of campus. So why wouldn't this kind of thing happen in say, starbucks?:cuss:

Why don't these people understand this? And of course when these types of people (the one's making the videos) are doing interviews of campus students, they don't tell the intervieweethat the students thatWOULD be carrying on campusALREADY have a CCW, and already carrymost everywhere else!They ask the typical "What do you think about letting students carry concealed firearms on campus?" and the typical answer from the average IGNORANT interviewee they just happened to find is "I think it's a bad idea. I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing the person sitting next to me might have a gun." Well, what about this morning when you had breakfast at the local cafe? did you know the 3 guys sitting at the booth next to you were all carrying concealed firearms? Didn't seem to bother you then did it?:banghead:

:celebrateMy $0.02. I'm done. Off the soap-box...for now;)
 

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I've been lurking for a while but thought I'd chime in here.

First I'm at work(on campus) right now so I can't use sound to watch the videos. In my silent world, the "wild west" looked like days at my high school when kids dressed up for no good reason, just because. The guns were all put away and not causing problems on their own, just the kid that can't get to class on time. I guess they missed their mark on that one, unless it was all in the sound.

I also can't see a bully ever picking on a kid with the immediate ability to draw a gun on him. They like to go for the weak ones.

Med school made no sense without sound, so I'll assume there was some important point made there.

As far as guns in schools, it may just be my campus, but I probably wouldn't trust half the kids here with a butter knife.(and yes I'll call them kids because that's how many act). There are plenty that I think would make mature responsible gun carries on campus, so I'm still a little torn on this issue. I'd like to see campuses with students carrying but I'd hate to see those that are irresponsible ruining it for the rest.
 

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Jay Gatz wrote:
I'd like to see campuses with students carrying but I'd hate to see those that are irresponsible ruining it for the rest.
Irresponsible people are already ruining things for the rest of us - hence the need to go about armed to protect oneself against these other people who are armed and ought not to be.

-ljp
 

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Carrying weapons on campus can be prevented by posting NO WEAPONS signs as students and visitors enter the facility.

School shootings can be prevented by posting NO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS signs as students and visitors enter the facility.

Didn't you know that?
 

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WheelGun wrote:
Carrying weapons on campus can be prevented by posting NO WEAPONS signs as students and visitors enter the facility.

School shootings can be prevented by posting NO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS signs as students and visitors enter the facility.

Didn't you know that?

:what:I should get my campus on that right now! There are no such signs, I could be in danger of a shooting if they don't.

Also I think that requiring a concealed permit would solve my worry of kids that aren't mature enough as they're usually of the 18/19 range and unsure of how to handle all the new responsibility they're taking on. Since in most states 21 is required for concealed carry the more mature students would be able to carry and stop a shooting a little more effectively than a sign.
 

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Make the signs on campus big enough to cover center mass on an adult (about the size of a bulletproof vest).

You can always stand behind the sign.

I am a teacher. I would carry at work if I were requested to and legally allowed to. I know I would be able to mitigate any situation that arose.

Imagine if the word gets out...

"Hey Johnny, did you know that the Principal told Mr. ___ to carry his gun to school?"

"Yeah? Cool!"

You thing the black raincoat types are going to come back to school packing heat if they know a teacher is armed?

Disclaimer: if any school adiministrator sees this, don't bother guessing who it is. I would never carry a gun to school unless it were legal. Like that would ever happen!
 

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I went to a small Christian School in northeast Arkansas. As one could imagine, hunting and fishing was very popular.

Thehuntershad their shotguns and even some of those had gun racks in the back window of their pick ups.

No one thought twice, or ever dreamed they would be used impulsively.

I think, that the faculty and staff (secretly) liked it when turkey/deer/duck were in season: These guys could get up at 3:30 in the morning to hunt and then go to their 8am class.

When the game wasn't in season, the 8am classes were a little--sparce. :D
 
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