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Grapeshot

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Originally Posted by manicdevery
OCed everywhere.

That's impossible....:lol:

At least highly unlikely. :uhoh:
 

TheQ

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Maybe for Devery. Not for Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris OC's on the shower? That can't be good for his firearm....not to mention does he shower with a belt on? Maybe he's had a pocket cut into his skin so he can fit a paddle holster on while naked with no belt?
 

DanM

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Chuck Norris OC's on the shower? That can't be good for his firearm....not to mention does he shower with a belt on? Maybe he's had a pocket cut into his skin so he can fit a paddle holster on while naked with no belt?

You wrongly assume Chuck Norris takes showers. Bacteria, dirt, and grime do not yet have Chuck's permission to be on him.

And, who said Chuck Norris OC's a firearm? Chuck *is* the weapon. He open carries himself around.

You obviously have much to learn about Chuck Norris. :)

On topic, OC'd getting gas in Novi. No problems at all.
 

TheQ

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OC'd at Lake Lansing Meijer. No issues. Ran into Virg Benero (strong side towards him) on the way out. Said hi.
 

autosurgeon

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Well, I had my first negative experience. :mad: I have been volunteering my time doing lights and sound for a stage play up-north. I had been open carrying for 2 dress rehearsals and 4 out of 6 performances with not a word. The play takes place in what used to be a movie theater. It’s seating capacity is below the 2500 capacity, but I OC’ed just be sure. (I have a CPL) But just before this evening’s performance, I went down from the balcony where the light and sound control panels are to the office and see how many people we were going to have tonight. I then went back upstairs and 2 minutes later, the stairway light came on and the secretary of the Board of Directors came up and the following took place:

Her: “Someone just said” (and she lifted my right arm to look at my gun) “What is that?”
Me: “(Pause) A gun”
Her: “Okay (holding up one finger on each hand)…Not here. Not ever. If its real. Take it out to your car RIGHT NOW.”
Me: “Okay” (I start to walk to the downstairs to the exit)
Her: “Wait. Cover it up with you shirt. You’ve caused a panic downstairs”

As I walk downstairs, I tell her that no one has said anything about it before. She doesn’t reply.
As I head outside, no one is staring at me, crying, or anything. I didn’t see any panic. I put it in my car and return upstairs.

As this is my first bad experience, I kept expecting the cops or someone else to come upstairs, but no one came up. I’m still a little shaken, but that will pass in time. Digital recorder was in my car, so no audio.

BTW, the secretary used be my high school technology director and I was once her student aide!! I doubt I'll help with any plays anymore

Her problem is she still thinks she is your teacher... that was what the wagging finger and the not now not ever was about.. its called command presence and it works most of the time.
 

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MichRRConductor said:
Her: “Okay (holding up one finger on each hand)…Not here. Not ever. If its real. Take it out to your car RIGHT NOW.”
Me: “Okay” . . .
I put it in my car and return upstairs.

Sorry, man, but I've got to call a spade a spade. You pussed out and got owned. Then you go back in to continue being her b*tch?

Dude, I am sorry to be harsh, but please do not OC until you grow a pair and are sure you'll never ever let *anyone* make you their b*tch like that ever again.

On topic, OC'd at Meijer in Lincoln Park. No problems at all.
 
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Seems to me that OC, like any of life's experiences, is an educative process. The more a person does it the more that person becomes educated in how to conduct themselves and how to deal with any adverse reactions.

The only way to continue that educative process is to keep on OC'ing and dealing with the experiences, positive and negative, as they come learning more and gaining confidence with each experience.

I say... Don't let a negative experience stop you from exercising your rights.... think through all of what happened MichRRConductor... and learn from it.

On topic:
OC'd at Taco Bell, the OC seminar at Gander Mtn., and Denny's, in Saginaw yesterday evening. No issues.
 
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WARCHILD

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Dan M: While I do respect you and enjoy your posts; I think you could have worded this one a little better. We are all guilty of some "armchair quarterback" responses, but each person must gauge their response/actions given the situation they're in. Possibly "asking" why he made the choice he did, would have been my first question and given her actions; would he do the same if this issue came up again. As Bikenut said, it's an ongoing learning process. We need to help "educate", discuss, and give honest suggestions on possible future responses he may have to use in similar situations.
JMO

OC'd at Denny's in Sag for a late supper after the seminar last night. No problems, issues.
Although, did have some very good discussion with Bikenut and Generaldet and I will start a thread on the subject later.
 

quarter horseman

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Her: “Someone just said” (and she lifted my right arm to look at my gun) “What is that?”

If anyone tried this on me they would be in a world of hurt, no one should come close to my strong side and if they did they would have a face full of fist man or woman!

On topic OC at Perkins in Kzoo yesterday, no issues the place was kinda empty and strong side was not out but and OC to add to the list.
 

cmdr_iceman71

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Two things you should’ve learned from this experience:

1) ALWAYS have your recorder on and running when you are out in public with your handgun. I don’t care if it is a simple run to take out the trash.

2) Rehearse your responses, and try to formulate succinct yet powerful counter-arguments for every possible objection and misinformed opinion.


OT: OCed yesterday at Walmart in Dearborn, K&G Fashion Superstore and Subway in Allen Park, and Save-A-Lot in Highland Park. No problems, no issues.
 

Grapeshot

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MichRRConductor have you considered discussing the situation with the director? Could be that you will get a completely different response - even if not you will have made an attempt and quite possibly contributed to someone's education.

Don't take the criticism of a few too harshly. You alone must make your own personal decisions - many here retain employment where they cannot carry at all much less OC.
 

Shadow Bear

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Well, I had my first negative experience. :mad: I have been volunteering my time doing lights and sound for a stage play up-north. I had been open carrying for 2 dress rehearsals and 4 out of 6 performances with not a word. The play takes place in what used to be a movie theater. It’s seating capacity is below the 2500 capacity, but I OC’ed just be sure. (I have a CPL) But just before this evening’s performance, I went down from the balcony where the light and sound control panels are to the office and see how many people we were going to have tonight. I then went back upstairs and 2 minutes later, the stairway light came on and the secretary of the Board of Directors came up and the following took place:

Her: “Someone just said” (and she lifted my right arm to look at my gun) “What is that?”
Me: “(Pause) A gun”
Her: “Okay (holding up one finger on each hand)…Not here. Not ever. If its real. Take it out to your car RIGHT NOW.”
Me: “Okay” (I start to walk to the downstairs to the exit)
Her: “Wait. Cover it up with you shirt. You’ve caused a panic downstairs”

As I walk downstairs, I tell her that no one has said anything about it before. She doesn’t reply.
As I head outside, no one is staring at me, crying, or anything. I didn’t see any panic. I put it in my car and return upstairs.

As this is my first bad experience, I kept expecting the cops or someone else to come upstairs, but no one came up. I’m still a little shaken, but that will pass in time. Digital recorder was in my car, so no audio.

BTW, the secretary used be my high school technology director and I was once her student aide!! I doubt I'll help with any plays anymore

Hind sight is always 20/20, but I would have walked to the car, got in, and drove away.

Make sure you pick up all your stuff on the way out, so its readily apparent that you're not coming back. She needs to know the consequances of violating your rights.

I had a similar experience as an actor- married director was fooling with one of the cast. If the cast member was not in an emotionally vulnerable situation, I'd have simply been offended, but since she was, I made him make a choice. He chose wisely, and we finished the run.

Bottom line, you get me, all of me, or none of me. That goes for my time, money, whatever.
 

DanM

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Dan M: While I do respect you and enjoy your posts; I think you could have worded this one a little better. . . .
Possibly "asking" why he made the choice he did, would have been my first question and given her actions; would he do the same if this issue came up again. As Bikenut said, it's an ongoing learning process. We need to help "educate", discuss, and give honest suggestions on possible future responses he may have to use in similar situations.

Your, and others, opinion of what I write is important to me. While the way I express my reaction sometimes may be less filtered, I was honest about how I felt in reaction to what MichRRConductor wrote.

Without detracting from others wanting to ask "why" or inquire further, I just personally don't feel that need.

What MichRRConductor described was enough. I was responding to behavior, not motivation behind behavior. As an exercise, let's assume the best of motivations or reasons behind MichRRConductor's response. In looking back again, now, at what he wrote about what was said and done, I can honestly say I still feel there was a pussing out and an owning. In my mind, I don't see this as a situation where the antagonist came close to, but didn't cross, the line, so that there are "possible responses" that could allow you to continue in their presence. The antagonist totally, completely, and utterly DISRESPECTED him, as described by MichRRConductor himself. There AIN'T NO correct response to that particular person he described except to resist the urge to fly the finger right in her face, do an about face, and tell her good luck with her little play while you walk out the door permanently.

I may have been able to word it a little better, true, but I don't think by much. I still think this is a story of, in the face of COMPLETE DISRESPECT, pussing out, getting owned, going back and being the offender's b*tch, and needing to grow a pair before OC'ing again and being faced again with complete disrespect and doing the same thing. How to word that differently without losing all those elements, I don't know.

On topic, OC'd at 7-Eleven at the corner of Dexter and Walton in Auburn Hills last night. No issues.
 

kryptonian

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same advice here. can't carry in here? BYE. good luck with the show. i've been kicked out of places before and of course private property rights prevail but on my way out i do let them know as much as i can until the door. whoever said practice your responses was right. negative responses are the minority but they still happen.
 

Grapeshot

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Make sure you pick up all your stuff on the way out, so its readily apparent that you're not coming back. She needs to know the consequances of violating your rights.

There were no rights violated if it was a private venue and private property.

One individuals rights do NOT automatically trump the rights of another.
 
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