AL Ranger
Regular Member
imported post
So, why are you not going to shop at Krogers? The allow concealed carry and have taken no position on open carry. What's the problem?Below is my response to the Kroger rep who responded to my email. You can read my response to her, followed by her email and my original asking about their OC and CC policies.
Ms. Metropulos,
Thank you for your swift and courteous response to my email. I wish the others we had contacted would have been as attentive.
I'm sorry to say that as of the receipt of your email, the posting on our website, and the circulation to other websites in our state and across the nation, many of us will no longer be Kroger customers. I'm sure that you can understand that we would no longer frequent a store whose policies violate our rights as outlined in the US Constitution and our state constitutions, as well. If your company has a change in its policies, please contact me and we will be sure to address those changes on our site and the others. Again, thank you for your quick and courteous response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:49 AM, <christie.metropulos@kroger.com> wrote
Dear Mr.________________,
Thank you for contacting The Kroger Co. Kroger and Dillon's have taken the position of allowing concealed carry in our stores. The only exceptions are in-store government libraries. As far as the liquor issue goes, the only establishments that cannot allow concealed carry are businesses that sell liquor by the drink, not packaged liquor.
I hope that this information is helpful. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact us at 800.576.4377.
Sincerely,
Christie Metropulos
Consumer Affairs
Reference: 8904509
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CUSTOMER COMMENTS:
As of right now, there are 44 states that allow/permit the open (unconcealed) carry of firearms in public. There is also a growing movement of citizens electing to exercise these rights. The reason for this email is to inquire as to Kroger's company policy concerning this topic. We are currently inquiring about this topic of all businesses operating in our state. Some businesses, such as Starbucks Coffee, have made it clear they will abide by the laws of the states in which they operate and permit open and/or concealed carry in their restaurants and on their property. We have no wish to violate your company's policies nor do we wish to be evicted from your stores or arrested for trespassing. Once you have informed us of your policies in this matter, we will post it on our website for our members and other gun owners to see, as well, as forward it to others organizations throughout our state. I would greatly appreciate a timely response to this inquiry and I thank you your time and consideration of this matter.
It says you can carry concealed not open. I wanted to know what the "official" policy was as opposed to the "store or local" policy. I wasn't looking for problems or trying to start one! I'm just letting these corporations know that we are looking at their policies for violations of our rights. I want them to know that their customers are willing to turn our backs to them if they don't wish to follow the laws of the states in which they operate. If you want to sit back and just take it as it comes, go right ahead. Personally, I'd rather be pro-active than reactive. I was polite, I was courteous and I didn't accuse them of anything.I just joined this site to tell you that you are retarded.... It clearly says that you CAN carry in Kroger just not in library.... so what is your problem? It's people like you who give gun owners bad names.... I hope you sell all of your guns and never associate yourself with firearms again....
+1Just who exactly is this "we" you talk about? I hope they realize you really don't represent anyone but yourself.
Of course.Different state = different situations.
Or, as happened here, the police said it was illegal (they were wrong), signs were put up, and the city had to be sued before they took them down. Big money, and hassles, for nothing.There's a debate on whether or not you should question policy before visiting. For example; if you are visiting a park that is across the road from the police department.. The park has no signs up that You can see; but you've made mistakes before.. So you call the park station and they inform you that Open Carry is banned and signs will be posted soon.
Okay GutShot. You're right. Park Rangers, although paid to and authorized to; are not a valid source of Information regarding the park in which they are in charge of. Hey silly me, bro, sorry. What was I thinking? :shock:cscitney87 wrote:Neither are Park Rangers. A prudent person would research these things independently. Some government officials will tell you what they wish the law was or whatever would make their job easier.Bro I purposely wrote Park Station because I didn't want to write Police Department. Generally speaking; Park Station Rangers and Staff have legal resources outside of the city Police Department. I wrote Park Station.. Because, Duh! Cops are Not the source of legal council.