I'm moving to Virginia YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

[riverrat10k]

I may be wrong, but I think the ABC Board changed the rules on this.

Nuc, one used to find "Happy Hour" tables piled high with everything from spiced shrimp to roast beef.

I think the old rule was a percentage of food COST vs. alcohol COST.

Now, I believe, the rules are food SALES vs. alcohol SALES.

Ergo, less free food.

 

[riverrat10k]

A bit off-topic so, Welcome to Virginia!

Tfred, just did a quick check on the code. It states no percentage of food to beer and wine sales. Hard liquor only.

So I think I have been misinformed all this time! Wonder why we don't have more "beer bars" in this area? Roadhouse type places as I have seen in WV and PA?

 

[nuc65]

Tfred, just did a quick check on the code. It states no percentage of food to beer and wine sales. Hard liquor only.

So I think I have been misinformed all this time! Wonder why we don't have more "beer bars" in this area? Roadhouse type places as I have seen in WV and PA?

As in firearms law, how many people actually read the law? I am 'told' what the law is all the time by people who have never read it, or have only believed the bits fed them by the MSM. There is a restaurant down the street that is full of drinkers but I doubt I have ever seen anybody dining on the fine cuisine...

That aside I would have to delve into it some, but I thought there was a section that required food must be served/offered anytime alcohol of any sort is, in as much as a working kitchen must be on site. But to tell the truth I am less interested in this aspect of law so being a little lazy on the LEGIS searches.

 

[user]

As in firearms law, how many people actually read the law?

I DO! I DO!

All seriousness aside - that's going to be in the Code of Admin Regs - the ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Control board) will have defined what the percentage or ratio is, and on what basis, by regulation. And they'll change it when it seems good to them to do so. And they've gotten rid of the ratio/percentage stuff, apparently, and they've decided that a "bona-fide full service restaurant"* that sells beer or wine has to sell at least two thousand dollars' worth of food a month, and one that sells mixed drinks has to sell at least double that. 3VAC5-50-110.

By the way, it's illegal for a restaurant to allow a patron to be in possession of more than two drinks at a time during happy hour. 3VAC5-50-160.

* "Bona fide, full-service restaurant."

An established place of business where meals with substantial entrees are habitually sold to persons and which has adequate facilities and sufficient employees for cooking, preparing and serving such meals for consumption at tables in dining areas on the premises. In determining the qualifications of such restaurant, the board may consider the assortment of entrees and other food sold. Such restaurants shall include establishments specializing in full course meals with a single substantial entree.

(Bars and taverns are like dividing by zero - undefined.)

 

[ProShooter]

As in firearms law, how many people actually read the law? .

I read it all the time. I enjoy reading the COV...especially the gun stuff. It helps when I teach my concealed carry/ Virginia law class.

Its really interesting to read some of the wacky stuff in the Code.

 

[nuc65]

I DO! I DO!

All seriousness aside - that's going to be in the Code of Admin Regs - the ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Control board) will have defined what the percentage or ratio is, and on what basis, by regulation. And they'll change it when it seems good to them to do so. And they've gotten rid of the ratio/percentage stuff, apparently, and they've decided that a "bona-fide full service restaurant"* that sells beer or wine has to sell at least two thousand dollars' worth of food a month, and one that sells mixed drinks has to sell at least double that. 3VAC5-50-110.

By the way, it's illegal for a restaurant to allow a patron to be in possession of more than two drinks at a time during happy hour. 3VAC5-50-160.

* "Bona fide, full-service restaurant."

(Bars and taverns are like dividing by zero - undefined.)

I am thankful that you do, and I believe you do so with a better understanding and more vigor than myself. I read some rather boring (at least to many others) technical manuals with great interest and try to be interested in reading the legal stuff but sometimes cannot keep my eyes open. However, I do find the case law opinions to be rather fascinating readings and more helpful many times over what just the legal statute states.

 

[peter nap]

I am thankful that you do,

+1

However, I do find the case law opinions to be rather fascinating readings and more helpful many times over what just the legal statute states

The case law is the most helpful to me also. I found myself in the most unpleasant situation of agreeing with Novacop the other day, not because I thought he was right, but because of what the courts have allowed LEA's to get away with.
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[nuc65]

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I agree with your assessment and note this from the VA constitution:

Section 2. People the source of power.

That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people, that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable to them.

Section 4. No exclusive emoluments or privileges; offices not to be hereditary.

That no man, or set of men, is entitled to exclusive or separate emoluments or privileges from the community, but in consideration of public services; which not being descendible, neither ought the offices of magistrate, legislator, or judge to be hereditary.

 

[Jay]

Ok back on topic I got the job that I interviewed for at UVA Medical Center looks likes I will be moving down there the first weekend in June

 

[HeroHog]

Cool! I spent WAY too many hours there as a patient... Good place and people.

 

[TFred]

Ok back on topic I got the job that I interviewed for at UVA Medical Center looks likes I will be moving down there the first weekend in June

Congratulations!

TFred