Halloween Home Invasion

[Shoobee]

One makes a statement on how they dress to everyone around them, even if comb your hair or cut or do not cut it, it all makes a statement, carrying a hunting rifle makes a statement, does not it say he or she is a hunter and possibly hunting going to or from?

Open carrying is a statement either you like it or not and you can asked yourself, one of the main purposes of open carry is to what make it notable so it may become normal in most peoples eyes, that is a statement.

Now that you have been educated you are able to reduce your assumptions and ignorance upon others and then of course we have our narcissistic on this forum.

Lots of interesting comments so far.

Lots of wild emotions too, sometimes funny to read.

Going back to the original post by the original poster (O/P), to me, having been there and done that, it strikes me of PTSD as I said. When I first got out I also tricked-out my Ruger mini to be just like a semi auto stock folding assault rifle. And I had my Browning High Power fully loaded and with me all the time, most often OC (I was in grad school in another Western state that was traditional OC). Thousands of rounds of ammo. Did not trust civilians nor LEOs any further than I could spot them in my iron sights.

Took a long time to get over that. At least 10 years. I think most x-military can relate.

Moving on to the topic of sending a message, this issue is in hot debate on John's website here. There are some who think OC is always appropriate and always sends the right message; there are some who think OC is never appropriate and never sends the right message; and there are some in between.

I OC whenever it is the most appropriate solution for security, and I CCW when I need security but OC is not possible or legal, and the rest of the time I stay inside the house, where the Scalia opinion of the Roberts court has stated that in my home I have a 2A constitutional right to be armed with any handgun of my choosing and any shotgun that is not sawed off.

OC is the fastest and most prepared way to be armed. It is easily possible with practice to draw and shoot in a fraction of a second. Less than half.

CC is the most discrete way to be armed.

Each has their advantages and disadvantages.

Assumptions are things that need to be made when a decision is needed and facts are missing. Assumptions are best avoided anytime they can be properly researched and replaced with facts. Some people avoid assumptions like the plague, while others jump to assumptions habitually.

Debate is a rational forensic method of comparing your belief system with someone else's. It should be rational and factual, and should not involve emotion. Emotional appeals and ad hominem insults are detractors from proper forensic debate.

I agree with Dave on the statement side of this issue.

 

[Metalhead47]

One makes a statement on how they dress to everyone around them, even if comb your hair or cut or do not cut it, it all makes a statement, carrying a hunting rifle makes a statement, does not it say he or she is a hunter and possibly hunting going to or from?

Open carrying is a statement either you like it or not and you can asked yourself, one of the main purposes of open carry is to what make it notable so it may become normal in most peoples eyes, that is a statement.

Now that you have been educated you are able to reduce your assumptions and ignorance upon others and then of course we have our narcissistic on this forum.

I assume you mean "narcissists." "Narcissistic" is an adjective, not a noun. And as long as we're talking ignorance, I believe the proper use of "ignorance" in this situation would be ignorance ABOUT others, not upon. Either way, improper word use again. You should go educate yourself.

That being said, back to the topic at hand... the act of open carrying its self may be viewed as a statement by many, however that is not NECESSARILY the intent of the carrier. Many do it for tactical advantage as someone said, or simply because it's more comfortable. The fact that it may or may not be viewed as a "statement" by others is irrelevant to those facts, those folks will carry like that either way.

 

[aktion]

OP, well done imho.

 

[twoskinsonemanns]

One makes a statement on how they dress to everyone around them, even if comb your hair or cut or do not cut it, it all makes a statement, carrying a hunting rifle makes a statement, does not it say he or she is a hunter and possibly hunting going to or from?

Open carrying is a statement either you like it or not and you can asked yourself, one of the main purposes of open carry is to what make it notable so it may become normal in most peoples eyes, that is a statement.

Now that you have been educated you are able to reduce your assumptions and ignorance upon others and then of course we have our narcissistic on this forum.

There is a difference between wearing something to make a statement, and you inferring some statement from something you see someone wearing.
Basically your saying something you see means something to you, so therefore they are making that statement. It's ignorant.
I wore sweats while changing the oil in the mustang today. What statement was I making? So arrogant.

 

[MKEgal]

One carries a firearm for protection, one open carriers [sic] as a statement

I think there are 3 reasons people carry, and specifically why they carry openly:
1) protection, ease of access, deterrance
2) simple exercise of rights ("because I can")
3) education: making a statement, getting people used to the idea of citizens carrying

Each person has different percentages, & those might even change depending on the day or situation.
The vast majority of the time, I'm probably 90% for protection & 5% each of the others.
While I was prohibited during the recent unpleasantness, I OCd an orange plastic training pistol to make a statement. Obviously #1 & 2 could not apply.

One of the moms who knew I worked at a gun shop noted the fake rifle and commented to me "Your costume would be even cooler if you had a real gun." I smiled, and replied, "I do have a real gun," patting my holster.

LOL How long had you all been walking together before she said that?
More proof that most people don't notice.

 

[BigDave]

I assume you mean "narcissists." "Narcissistic" is an adjective, not a noun. And as long as we're talking ignorance, I believe the proper use of "ignorance" in this situation would be ignorance ABOUT others, not upon. Either way, improper word use again. You should go educate yourself.

That being said, back to the topic at hand... the act of open carrying its self may be viewed as a statement by many, however that is not NECESSARILY the intent of the carrier. Many do it for tactical advantage as someone said, or simply because it's more comfortable. The fact that it may or may not be viewed as a "statement" by others is irrelevant to those facts, those folks will carry like that either way.

You did realize them was four your benefit, two given you something too pick at :lol: lacking any real substance in your reply.
Tactical advantage, really what advantage? someone has a gun pointed at you and you really think you will be able to draw shoot and drop before they shoot you? Dream World.
As to comfort, a handgun with a decent holster will be comfortable be it open or concealed, pick the right holster for the right job.

Open Carrying is a statement like it or not, one CHOSESeek what statement they wish to convey as they would with the rest of THERE loldress, shoes, hair style, makeup if it fits you, type of hat they are all statements about EWE lol

HOOPING)) this will help EWElol UNSTANDeek it easier!

 

[Sparky508]

Open Carrying is a statement like it or not, one CHOSESeek what statement they wish to convey as they would with the rest of THERE loldress, shoes, hair style, makeup if it fits you, type of hat they are all statements about EWE lol

So if I am OC in the summer time, I might be making the statement that I don't want to wear a ski parka to cover my pistol because I am making a stand against the heat?
Or
I don't have my CPL yet and I am making a statement that I am too impatient to protect myself, until it gets here?

 

[bmg50cal]

Whether one makes this personally true or not, OC is always a statement to the "anti crowd" as a loud FU.

 

[MAC702]

Whether one makes this personally true or not, OC is always a statement to the "anti crowd" as a loud FU.

This is a society where it is not unusual for people to wear T-shirts or put bumper stickers on their car that are full of profanity. To me, it is the same thing as using these words in a room full of strangers, including ladies and children.

I do not put OC in the same attitude.

I'm not countering your statement; just musing from it.

 

[BigDave]

This is a society where it is not unusual for people to wear T-shirts or put bumper stickers on their car that are full of profanity. To me, it is the same thing as using these words in a room full of strangers, including ladies and children.

I do not put OC in the same attitude.

I'm not countering your statement; just musing from it.

What is really comical about this is the every person chooses on how they present themselves be it good or bad and how surprising so many replies take the negative option! :lol:

 

[sudden valley gunner]

What is really comical about this is the every person chooses on how they present themselves be it good or bad and how surprising so many replies take the negative option! :lol:

Your neighbors are not the only ones wondering!

Another fine example of not considering all the factors surrounding an event as Halloween, dress up for the part or cover it up but of course we then would not be able to come here and tell everyone how I stood up for my Open Carry Ability. :banghead:

So again what is your point? Or are just having fun agitating the masses....trolling?

 

[Metalhead47]

So again what is your point? Or are just having fun agitating the masses....trolling?

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