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Every gun is always loaded

HankT

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HankT said:
I'm curious, Marc, what's to not understand?

Careless cop shoots another cop.

Careless cop kills the other cop.

Careless cop walks--no charges for his incompetence.

Very embarrassing for St. Joseph PD, which allowed (and has now approved) the incompetence.

What's your view on what happened, Marc?

I'm only gonna comment on this one time as an insider. This was a tragic accident and Jason Strong is suffering more than any legal punishment could do. He has to live with the fact that he killed one of his best friends by one careless move. When he obliged Dan's request to shoot him with simunition he failed to open the chamber and verify that he had the proper weapon before he fired. Everybody here is only going by what is reported in the news and the news here is Very inaccaurate and takes a very liberal anti gun approach to all things reported involving firearms. I knew Dan De Kraai personally and i know Jason Strong personally my cousin and my brother are both Police Officers and it infuriates me for people to make judgements based on the very rough drafted news reports. And Jason wasn't placed under arrest because he was never away from police supervision, he wasn't being watched as a flight risk though, he was being watched to make sure he didn't kill himself. And now im again going to ask the moderators please close this thread before it gets inflammatory

Yes, indeed, it was "one careless move." Very unprofessional.

Very fatal.

I'm not sure I see this "very liberal anti gun approach to all things" bias in the reporting on this subject. What I see is a clear description of the sweeping under the rug by the St. Joe PD and the city of this icky problem.

Sorry for your loss, since you knew the deceased. It would serve his memory best if a complete investigation were completed and corrective action taken so that it doesn't happen again. That would simultaneously serve the interest of StJPD, since it looks pretty raggedy right now. Somebody should probably be fired for what happened.

If you disagree with some of the points about this clearly negligent shooting, Marc, please do feel free to correct them and/or fill in the blanks.

Oh, and based on your description of how Ofc. Strong "was being watched to make sure he didn't kill himself," um, isn't that one of the really persistent anti-gun arguments--that a person could get so pyschologically distraught that he/she would committ suicide with such a powerful implement?

If Strong was in danger of committing suicide, I gotta wonder if someone had the good sense to take away his gun.
 
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