Breaking: Spokane p.d. Records says cpl's now running 3 to 5 months door to door..

[LarryM]

HOLY SHALL-ISSUE (if we get around to it) BATMAN!

I know there is a backlog, but three to five months wait? I spoke directly to the records office and this is straight from the horses' mouth! Incredible! I wonder if there is any legal or legislative remedy for this?

80-100 NEW applicants a day...

 

[compmanio365]

What does this do to the 30 days requirement as written in RCW 9.41.070? Given that they print your CPL while you are there at the office, and NICS is an instant check, what is the holdup exactly? Sounds like a delaying tactic to me.

 

[Alpine]

They could just drive over to a neighboring county as an immediate fix, but yeah this seems unreasonable for that office.

 

[LarryM]

What does this do to the 30 days requirement as written in RCW 9.41.070? Given that they print your CPL while you are there at the office, and NICS is an instant check, what is the holdup exactly? Sounds like a delaying tactic to me.

I agree. The same office and staff handle CPL's as well as pistol purchases, you'd think the process would be a bit faster since I bought my pistol and applied for the CPL on the same day....

 

[LarryM]

Called Rep. Matt Shea's (R-Spokane Valley) office in Olympia regarding the information given by Spokane PD. re: 3-5 CPL month delay. His assistant was very polite - he also was very surprised at the delay times given. He said he'd pass it on to the congressman.

Also, he stated Rep. Shea has or is about to introduce a bill requiring counties to issue reminder/renewal notices for the CPL. He also stated that the CPL is the ONLY permit in the state of WA that does not automatically generate a renewal notice. (Politics at work here I suspect!)

 

[40grit]

office help

Maybe ex-police chief Stephens that is still on paid leave at home could come in to help the office staff.

 

[amlevin]

Got to give those officials in Spokane a little slack. After all, they are probably products of the underfunded Washington State School System. Reading and Math skills are lacking.

 

[hermannr]

The problem is, they just will not assign extra staff to handle the extra load. Someone needs to put their feet to the legal fire. I would start at the top with their new CoP Straub, and ask him if he believes that SPD needs to follow state law. Then point out the discrepancy.

With one person they can probably handle 40 apps a day. If they are receiving 100, then they need to assign at least 1 more person full time to that counter, Can't complain about budget, they get to keep $18 out of every app. that should work out to at least $70/hr income to the PD for a full time person.

Maybe CoP Straub needs to have the lost potential income pointed out to him? Anyone that does not like the slow response can always give their money to the Sheriff rather than the city.

 

[Thor80]

Maybe CoP Straub needs to have the lost potential income pointed out to him? Anyone that does not like the slow response can always give their money to the Sheriff rather than the city.

Unfortunately here we have no choice. County and City combined to eliminate redundancy. Only one place in Spokane County to get CPL and its at the Public Safety Building at SPD's records division..... I have to renew mine in a month, hopefully they just re-issue on the spot and I don't get caught waiting for it....
-Thor

 

[OlGutshotWilly]

As a practical matter, if you have to renew, I would strongly suggest you do it at the first opportunity you are allowed before it expires. With no renewal notices going out, I didn't pay close attention to mine. I noticed it during a period when I was busy with both jobs and couldn't get in.

I went in just 10 hours after the expiration expecting to walk out with my renewed CPL. No dice.

Previously, I was renewed on the spot, same day. ( Snohomish Co Sheriffs office at the Courthouse in Everett ). They are also getting 80+ a day now and told me it would take up to 10 days to get mine. I'm now17 days out without seeing it yet.

 

[Thor80]

As a practical matter, if you have to renew, I would strongly suggest you do it at the first opportunity you are allowed before it expires. With no renewal notices going out, I didn't pay close attention to mine. I noticed it during a period when I was busy with both jobs and couldn't get in.

I went in just 10 hours after the expiration expecting to walk out with my renewed CPL. No dice.

Previously, I was renewed on the spot, same day. ( Snohomish Co Sheriffs office at the Courthouse in Everett ). They are also getting 80+ a day now and told me it would take up to 10 days to get mine. I'm now17 days out without seeing it yet.

Mine is good till beginning of April. I just checked and you can renew up to 90 days before expiration so I'll be heading to the line shortly!

-Thor

 

[darkside]

Just thought id chime in. I renewed my cpl back in Dec. and was there about 30 minutes. Got there first thing in the morning so not much of a line. Also got a free cable lock for my gun. Nice to get a little of my tax dollars back.:lol:

 

[bennie1986]

Mine is good till beginning of April. I just checked and you can renew up to 90 days before expiration so I'll be heading to the line shortly!

-Thor

They print renewals on the spot!

 

[Trigger Dr]

Kitsap County is slow

My son went into the Kitsap Sheriff office in Silverdale today for his 1st CPL. This office normally issues on the spot, usually less than 1/2 hour. He was told there were 100 applications ahead of him and expect to wait "A WHILE"

 

[Stretch]

Wife has been busy in her office, somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 a day. She isn't aware of any delays from her office, but this isn't Spokane either.

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[MKEgal]

The problem is, they just will not assign extra staff to handle the extra load.
... Can't complain about budget, they get to keep $18 out of every app.

Geez, even doing 4 an hour that's $72. And it can't cost but maybe $5 at the outside for the materials to print them, the electricity to run machines, postage... so there's $52 cleared.
Pay half that to the clerk, put half toward the building & supervisors.
I'd do data entry & background searches all day for $25 an hour. Any way to telecommute?

ETA: 2/hr, maybe a couple of very complicated BG checks, would still be $11 toward paying for the building & supervisor.

 

[BigDave]

If need to find a process to make this happen and if the ones who do the job cannot then find someone who can and can figure it out, stop telling us why you can't!

 

[skeith5]

Geez, even doing 4 an hour that's $72. And it can't cost but maybe $5 at the outside for the materials to print them, the electricity to run machines, postage... so there's $52 cleared.
Pay half that to the clerk, put half toward the building & supervisors.
I'd do data entry & background searches all day for $25 an hour. Any way to telecommute?

ETA: 2/hr, maybe a couple of very complicated BG checks, would still be $11 toward paying for the building & supervisor.

Not even close, you are missing out on a lot of expenses such as employee benefits, l&i tax, unemployment tax, etc.. even if you had $25 an hour to go towards an employee they would probably only receive $15-17 an hour, but I doubt $72 an hour gross would allow you to pay 1 employee a $15-17 wage.

And $72 - 5 = $67...

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[Bill Starks]

If I live in Tacoma, I can renew my driver license in Spokane, we need to be able to get/renew our CPL's at any office that issues them, not just the jurisdiction where we live.

 

[amlevin]

This situation was exactly why the law was written in the manner it was

RCW 9.41.070
Concealed pistol license — Application — Fee — Renewal.

(1) The chief of police of a municipality or the sheriff of a county shall within thirty days after the filing of an application of any person, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol concealed on his or her person within this state for five years from date of issue, for the purposes of protection or while engaged in business, sport, or while traveling. However, if the applicant does not have a valid permanent Washington driver's license or Washington state identification card or has not been a resident of the state for the previous consecutive ninety days, the issuing authority shall have up to sixty days after the filing of the application to issue a license. The issuing authority shall not refuse to accept completed applications for concealed pistol licenses during regular business hours.

It was no doubt the intent of those who wrote the law to preempt the most common delaying tactics used by Police everywhere.
"We haven't processed you application yet"
"We're still conducting the background checks"
"We don't have the time"
"We only do that on certain days and today isn't one of them". (Marysville used/uses the excuse "We only schedule fingerprinting on certain days. Sorry, the "clock" doesn't start until your application is complete and that means fingerprints too".)

You''d think that a "reminder" sent to the City Attorney would point out that the delays described are clearly in violation of the statute.