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Doug_Nightmare

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It is much better off than Gun Rights Media. For some reason, they seem to have become a dumping ground for spammers and other junk posts that have nothing to do with firearms.
Must have a larger readership making the effort worthwhile. Not so among us dozen.
 

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It is much better off than Gun Rights Media. For some reason, they seem to have become a dumping ground for spammers and other junk posts that have nothing to do with firearms.
jthunter, i believe the site is DOA and it wasn't the virus...this is the same quagmire that besieged the colorado gun forum...

shame someone didn't pull the plug and let it fade into everyone's memory.
 

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There was a site that DID fade away several years ago called "ICarry.org". It was one of the ones I started at 10-12 years ago but it became inactive about 5 years ago. I would check in a couple of times a month and see if anybody had posted anything new but it finally disappeared about 18 months ago.
 

color of law

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If this forum fades into the sunset a lot of excellent case-law will be lost. And those that have lots of this knowledge will be inaccessible. But based on the participation at this point on this forum I guess you could say this forum is already DOA.

I just came across a SC case that said :
Constitutional rights thus implicitly protect those closely related acts necessary to their exercise. "There comes a point ... at which the regulation of action intimately and unavoidably connected with [a right] is a regulation of [the right] itself." Hill v. Colorado, 530 U.S. 703, 745, 120 S.Ct. 2480, 147 L.Ed.2d 597 (2000) (Scalia, J., dissenting). The right to keep and bear arms, for example, "implies a corresponding right to obtain the bullets necessary to use them," Jackson v. City and County of San Francisco, 746 F.3d 953, 967 (C.A.9 2014) (internal quotation marks omitted), and "to acquire and maintain proficiency in their use," Ezell v. Chicago, 651 F.3d 684, 1098, 704 (C.A.7 2011). See District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 617-618, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d 637 (2008) (citing T. Cooley, General Principles of Constitutional Law 271 (2d ed. 1891) (discussing the implicit right to train with weapons)); United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174, 180, 59 S.Ct. 816, 83 L.Ed. 1206 (1939) (citing 1 H. Osgood, The American Colonies in the 17th Century 499 (1904) (discussing the implicit right to possess ammunition)); Andrews v. State, 50 Tenn. 165, 178 (1871) (discussing both rights). Without protection for these closely related rights, the Second Amendment would be toothless. Likewise, the First Amendment "right to speak would be largely ineffective if it did not include the right to engage in financial transactions that are the incidents of its exercise." McConnell v. Federal Election Comm'n, 540 U.S. 93, 252, 124 S.Ct. 619, 157 L.Ed.2d 491 (2003) (Scalia, J., concurring in part, concurring in judgment in part, and dissenting in part).
See Luis v. US, 136 S. Ct. 1083 - Supreme Court (2016).
 

Doug_Nightmare

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I believe that there is a difference in contribution beyond participating. Participation does bring in click profits though.
 

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Well, maybe the whole concept of Open Carry for a Forum's reason-for-existence had a built-in self-destruct device (or slow-acting poison) from the very beginning. I mean pretty much NO ONE who carries a handgun OCs, and most CC people would never consider doing it on a regular basis, and MANY CCers are even outright hostile to it (as per my experience). So personally, of all the many people I've talked to while OCing out & about (and at OC get-together events I've hosted in 3 states over 12 years) I really didn't (and still don't) expect ANY of them ever to practice OCing.
Consequently, the lack of activity here (except for a few regulars mostly) -- and it's BEEN that way for a long time now (even before Grapeshot "left") -- isn't at all surprising. Nor is the idea this site will at some point cease functioning.
Heck, when was the last time even the owner (Mike?) posted here (especially since becoming a lawyer a few years ago)? Yes, I'm sure he's busy with his law career, but it's like HE has disappeared, let alone disappearing being the mostly likely fate of this site/forum.
Sad, but again, almost no one OCs...I've been here in ELP for 4 years now and have seen NO ONE OCing other than me (and cops, the LARGEST group of OCers, of course). And were I to stay longer here in TX (going back to CO soon) I STILL wouldn't expect to see any OCers.
So where's the future for OCing, especially when the "Premiere OC site in the NATION" (and TMK, the ONLY one!) is so INactive?
There isn't any...
Very sad though, as IMO we really need LOTS of Americans out there OCing (for a variety of reasons)...yet they just won't. And to keep hoping they will is a futile exercise. :-(
 
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color of law

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This site needs to broaden its scope. Allow more GENERAL discussion of other gun issues like long guns and CC.
The reason I say this is there are no other forum that is worth posting on without being relentlessly criticized if the so called prema donnas object to your post, even banned.

This forum has always had a pretty thick skin, as it should. October will be 13 years of contributing good sound legal writing on this forum. I hope it has not been a waste of time.

I'm to the point of being an observer/lurker of other forums and laughing my ass off.
 

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@ color of law:
I left for a while due to issues I had with certain "regular members" here (and there were other members who left for the same reason), but eventually I came back. HOWEVER, I was way more cautious in my "content" in order to avoid any "unpleasantness." But then I don't like to argue with people either in-person OR in some online forum.
 

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@ color of law:
I left for a while due to issues I had with certain "regular members" here (and there were other members who left for the same reason), but eventually I came back. HOWEVER, I was way more cautious in my "content" in order to avoid any "unpleasantness." But then I don't like to argue with people either in-person OR in some online forum.
You can ignore (I do), but do you know of any gun forum that this isn't present? There have been "members" banned from this forum and allowed to return and others that have not.

My issue is when misinformation is promoted and when pointed out with facts as being incorrect they continue to promote the falsehood. This is a common act on most forums.

There are others on this forum who point out hypocrisy causing others to get their panties in a knot for pointing it out. It is rough trying to live a perfect life in an imperfect world, isn't it?
 

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...the promoters of false narratives, the purveyors of lies...let them post their views that all may see...I do not engage in reasonable and rational discourse with liberals...waste of my time...and yours...
 
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