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Ive been doing a lot of research on this subject and have made no decision. I am only adding two cents of "why not"? to the boards full of negatives.
I am a huge gun rights advocate and I had to ask myself one question:
What would I be willing to sacrifice to prevent crime associated with firearms...
If properly done.
Laser etching a barcode to the case is not an expensive process. It can be done on the sheet of brass prior to case manufacture or during the stamping process for caliber/mfg/batch... also if removed would render the case unsafe or even unuseable.
The only change in the manufacturing process would be the additional equipment required to laser etch the material - this additional cost if sponsored by the government would not require any significant increase in the cost of ammunition. Since the barcode is associated with the case it would also have no significant impact on people who reload...
lets say it costs $0.03 per round:
box of 20 + $0.60
box of 50 + $1.50
case of 1000 + $30
Would I pay an extra $30/1000 knowing that by barcoding my ammunition and holding me accountable for it will keep it out of the hands of criminals? sure
Black market unmarked ammo would become so costly - the average parking lot criminal looking to grab a wallet or two would NOT have the ability to purchase ammunition - good for all of us.
The only criminals that would be able to afford black market ammunition would use it quite sparingly - also good for the average citizen.
I would even go so far as to require a backround check for purchasing ammunition. Every gun owner I know receives a backround check for a firearms purchase... its a phone call and a few minutes... Would I be willing to wait a few minutes in exchange for the knowledge that the average criminal would not be able to purchase ammunition? sure
Now - being that a firearm without ammunition is useless - there should be no restrictions on firearms at all... assault rifle or otherwise.
Every law or otherwise relating to firearm bans/ownership should be alleviated/repealed.
If all goes well - you can purchase any firearm you wish... pay a negligable increase in cost of ammunition... and feel safe in the knowledge that ifthe average criminal wants to come after the average citizen with a firearm, chances are it doesnt have ammunition in it.
I hold myself accountable already being a responsible gun owner. I read laws and become involved in my local/state government when things look squirrelly. I live in PA and right now the mayor of Philly is nutty. (pun intended). Here is a typical person grasping at anything to curtail gun violence with no rational thought.
What gets me is why the average person immediately associates firearms with gun violence? Media? Media? Media?
I open carry and I carry concealed - I feel there is a time and a place for everything: whats more - any gun owner feels the same. What works to our advantage is we are all going through it together but without any kind of clear / concise leadership. The NRA is ridiculous - always covering the same tired ground...
What we need is a group - FirearmUnited Constitutional Kingdom Uncontested- for example:
This group has to be proactive / thinking outside the box. As firearm owners we are part of the problem not part of the solution. We are always going on about our constitutional rights but we offer no solutions.
We, as gun owners, areintelligent - politically savvy - patient and all around law abiding citizens of this great country.
However is this all we can up with? "please dont take our guns"
I think we can do better than that: Band together and beat gun crime together. We need our own militia... our own "Human Security" . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_security
Actually become involved in preventing gun violence. Teach our kids responsible gun ownership. Receive tactical training.
Im going on and on and I realized - we do these things already. Now what can we do? Serialize ammunition? Why not? It isnt going to have any impact on my ability to purchase and own firearms or ammunition... but I believe it would have an impact on the average criminal who has to buy 15 rounds of 9mm for $8000.
These are just random thoughts - Offensive to some - devils advocate to others... They're just thoughts: discuss
D
Ive been doing a lot of research on this subject and have made no decision. I am only adding two cents of "why not"? to the boards full of negatives.
I am a huge gun rights advocate and I had to ask myself one question:
What would I be willing to sacrifice to prevent crime associated with firearms...
If properly done.
Laser etching a barcode to the case is not an expensive process. It can be done on the sheet of brass prior to case manufacture or during the stamping process for caliber/mfg/batch... also if removed would render the case unsafe or even unuseable.
The only change in the manufacturing process would be the additional equipment required to laser etch the material - this additional cost if sponsored by the government would not require any significant increase in the cost of ammunition. Since the barcode is associated with the case it would also have no significant impact on people who reload...
lets say it costs $0.03 per round:
box of 20 + $0.60
box of 50 + $1.50
case of 1000 + $30
Would I pay an extra $30/1000 knowing that by barcoding my ammunition and holding me accountable for it will keep it out of the hands of criminals? sure
Black market unmarked ammo would become so costly - the average parking lot criminal looking to grab a wallet or two would NOT have the ability to purchase ammunition - good for all of us.
The only criminals that would be able to afford black market ammunition would use it quite sparingly - also good for the average citizen.
I would even go so far as to require a backround check for purchasing ammunition. Every gun owner I know receives a backround check for a firearms purchase... its a phone call and a few minutes... Would I be willing to wait a few minutes in exchange for the knowledge that the average criminal would not be able to purchase ammunition? sure
Now - being that a firearm without ammunition is useless - there should be no restrictions on firearms at all... assault rifle or otherwise.
Every law or otherwise relating to firearm bans/ownership should be alleviated/repealed.
If all goes well - you can purchase any firearm you wish... pay a negligable increase in cost of ammunition... and feel safe in the knowledge that ifthe average criminal wants to come after the average citizen with a firearm, chances are it doesnt have ammunition in it.
I hold myself accountable already being a responsible gun owner. I read laws and become involved in my local/state government when things look squirrelly. I live in PA and right now the mayor of Philly is nutty. (pun intended). Here is a typical person grasping at anything to curtail gun violence with no rational thought.
What gets me is why the average person immediately associates firearms with gun violence? Media? Media? Media?
I open carry and I carry concealed - I feel there is a time and a place for everything: whats more - any gun owner feels the same. What works to our advantage is we are all going through it together but without any kind of clear / concise leadership. The NRA is ridiculous - always covering the same tired ground...
What we need is a group - FirearmUnited Constitutional Kingdom Uncontested- for example:
This group has to be proactive / thinking outside the box. As firearm owners we are part of the problem not part of the solution. We are always going on about our constitutional rights but we offer no solutions.
We, as gun owners, areintelligent - politically savvy - patient and all around law abiding citizens of this great country.
However is this all we can up with? "please dont take our guns"
I think we can do better than that: Band together and beat gun crime together. We need our own militia... our own "Human Security" . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_security
Actually become involved in preventing gun violence. Teach our kids responsible gun ownership. Receive tactical training.
Im going on and on and I realized - we do these things already. Now what can we do? Serialize ammunition? Why not? It isnt going to have any impact on my ability to purchase and own firearms or ammunition... but I believe it would have an impact on the average criminal who has to buy 15 rounds of 9mm for $8000.
These are just random thoughts - Offensive to some - devils advocate to others... They're just thoughts: discuss
D
